the fitba team crystal palace

no one but no one is stupid enough to take bobby off our hands. plus there's always carlton cole

aj i could see though if they're very, very sentimental

Do West Ham have too much history to qualify for this or something? Pretty sure there was a point in the early 90s when all four were playing in the Premiership and I'm pretty sure QPR were the best of the lot at the time.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 14:18 (36 minutes ago)

yeah i think winning european trophies and all the famous academy names elevate them above the other three, but being bought by gold & sullivan is a good step towards obliquity

Let's just throw in Nigel Quashie and be done with it.

i was just thinking of quashie yesterday

the three promoted clubs returning call is one I made in disgust at the teams who went up, but Stoke are really, really fucked so basically this is the season for one club - any club - to pull off a jammy survival. it'll be Cardiff, sadly

i thought his name was kwoshy for a fair while before i realized it was an eccentric rendering of kwasi

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/51536.html

names of cricketers that occasionally float through my head

for a very brief period quashie looked like he was going to be the mobile thudd of england's dreams

The youngster has already been selected for England at U-19 and U-21 level, and [John] Spencer believes he is the next best thing to hit English football, since current England manager Glenn Hoddle.

"The lad is as good a player as England have had since Glenn Hoddle. I've seen Hoddle in training when I was with Chelsea. He was the other side of 30 and Nigel is under 20, but they can do the same things."

"They can both hit long passes and can run games. In training Nigel can hit free-kicks any spot he likes. You have to stand there in amazement."

2004–2006 Scotland 14 (1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6JPZ8_mxWg

truly a singular congregation of rangers ghosts

A look at the Most Capped list for the England U21s is certainly illuminating in its weird mix of the stodgily overlooked and yr standard wonderkids who never made it. I had completely forgotten the existence of Michael Mancienne.

mancienne is doing well at hamburg

yeah i wondered about german fitba in reading of his success

In a playing regularly kind of way? Feels weird he hasn't played for England at all given there are pretty much zero non-injury prone options at centre back, other than in some general Hodgson-not-watching-the-Bundesliga way.

truly a singular congregation of rangers ghosts

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 15:50 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

someone remind me to title my hornbyesque memoir "my life in the shepherds bush of ghosts" btw

mancienne played p much every game when he wasnt injured (he missed the 2-9 vs bayern)

I've been holding off from this thread cos my feelings about Palace are a bit complicated. I feel like really, they ought to have been my team, but they're tied in to the weird relationship I have with Croydon, the fact I always feel strongest about it when I'm furthest away... I dunno. It's some odd shit, anyway, probably not for clogging up ILF with.

Things Palace are notable for, or at least that I remember them being notable for:

- Chairmen. Ornery bastard's ornery bastard Ron Noades (least that's the impression I always got), walking disaster Mark Goldberg, the multiple facets of Simon Jordan... I can't think of anything notable about Steve Parish, though. I didn't know what he looked like til seeing him on the news this week.

- Goalkeepers. Nigel Martyn made his name there, Gabor Kiraly was fairly solid if I remember rightly, and Julian Speroni's been widely regarded as one of the best Championship keepers for a few years now. There's some I'm missing out, not quite sure who (Rhys Wilmot's one - Kevin Miller, possibly? Palace feels like the kind of place Maik Taylor might have stopped off at, though I don't know if I'm just making that up)

- Young players. Not necessarily shouted about that much, but in terms of numbers of decent-level pros turned out Palace are probably about as productive as Saints, though with the possible exceptions of Zaha and Victor Moses their recent graduates aren't quite as high-profile as yer Walcotts, Bales and Oxlade-Chamberlains. Still, Wayne Routledge, Sean Scannell, Nat Clyne, Ben Watson - all doing decent-to-big things. Jon Williams is meant to be pretty tidy too, isn't he?

- Selhurst Park. I don't mind it much, but I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone else have much nice to say about it. I've not been in years, though - I'm assuming the Sainsburys means they still can't expand?

I'm kind of fascinated to see who Palace buy this summer, partly cos:

no one but no one is stupid enough to take bobby off our hands. plus there's always carlton cole

Last time Ian Holloway was in the Premier League, his purchases included Luke Varney and Marlon Harewood. Obviously that's partly because Blackpool had one of the smallest budgets of the Premier League era (I vaguely recall reports of £10k-a-week salary cap, resulting in them missing out on Brett Pitman), but I'm pretty sure Palace are hardly loaded either. I don't think they'll necessarily go the route of raiding the relegated clubs (I'd imagine all three of them are richer than Palace, in any case), but as for who they do go for... goodness knows.

I've been holding off from this thread cos my feelings about Palace are a bit complicated. I feel like really, they ought to have been my team, but they're tied in to the weird relationship I have with Croydon, the fact I always feel strongest about it when I'm furthest away... I dunno. It's some odd shit, anyway, probably not for clogging up ILF with

― William Bloody Swygart, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 23:11 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ILF is a house with many rooms and intrepid self-reflection is an underused guest bedroom in need of exploration

ron noades, i had forgotten about him

i like his name, it's just the right name for a crystal palace chairman

he had some interesting thoughts about ethnicity and the division of labour in fibta

n 1991, Crystal Palace chairman Ron Noades claimed that “The black players at this club lend the side a lot of skill and flair, but you also need white players in there to balance things up and give the team some brains and some common sense”

ah i was wondering when if ever wbs would open this closet

as long as it doesnt end in a burial youtube sesh then i too am quite alright with ghosts of croydon spectral crackhouse slain rudeboy reminisces

i almost kind of miss noades tbh, the sort of legendary london git and wheeler deeler scourge of football whose ilk will become fully extinct when gold & sullivan pass beyond the veil

the story goes that if it wasnt for those pesky fans he'd have merged wimbledon, palace and charlton into a south london united behemoth superclub. would probably have tried to get in on a brentford wimbledon qpr merger round 2000 too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J37jQv9pOoA

i did say no burial but maybe boards of canada will do here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHVh0970kfI

"do you, like me, sometimes wonder why on earth people bring a fine looking dog like that, to a ground like this?"

That training ground clip from 1983 is great. Noades looked liked Mr Burns from the Simpsons even then. Venables had come back and pinched anyone that was half decent from the (cough) 'team of the 80s' for QPR, so that was very much a team in decline. I can spot Jim Cannon, Paul Hinselwood, Henry Hughton (Chris's brother), Vince Hilaire (bizarrely playing in goal in that footage) Kevin Mabbutt (brother of Gary), possibly Tommy Langley (?) in that footage. Love the players' cars; battered old Ford Capris with the registration plates hanging off.

based on the name this is my favorite footie team

^ key point imo. Even when I lived south of the river I could never bring myself to visit the place, lest it fail to live up to the splendid fantasyland that I still believe it to be.

Did that story about Diddy wanting to buy Palace because he liked the name ever turn out to be true?

The actual Crystal Palace is a strange place full of ruins and headless statues and sphinxes and dinosaurs and a lot of Thai restaurants but the club isn't really in Crystal Palace. That said 'Croydon FC' or 'South Norwood' don't really have the same ring to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VomkssQel8g

cor pards wasnt half a looker tbf to the philandering sod

The actual Crystal Palace is a strange place full of ruins and headless statues and sphinxes and dinosaurs and a lot of Thai restaurants but the club isn't really in Crystal Palace. That said 'Croydon FC' or 'South Norwood' don't really have the same ring to them.

The army kicked Palace out of Crystal Palace Park in 1914; they used to play on the ground the old FA cup finals were held in. After that they went on a nomadic wander around South London, briefly playing at Herne Hill Velodrome and what is now Selhurst train depot (there are still bits of the old stand visible there today apparently), before Selhurst Park was built and opened in 1924.

phwoar xp

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/gallery/prem-managers-young/pa-photos_t_premier-league-managers-young-gallery-pies-1412q.jpg

To be fair, at least two Thai restaurants have closed. One is still boarded up, the other is a Brazilian place, now, I think.

I lived in the area for nearly 13 years now but I haven't been to Selhurst Park since Everton won there in Aug 2004. Rooney "injured". Apparently, it's £35 for category A Championship games, which is what they were charging for the cheapest Prem fixtures nine years ago.

It amazes me that so many people are prepared to pay those prices

the fitba team crystal palace

In the end, Ian Holloway was a broken man. He sat, ashen-faced, in a cinema theatre in the basement of the Soho hotel and all that fizz and exuberance that had marked him out, not least on the touchline at Wembley less than five months ago, had drained away. This time the faded buzzwords were "exhausted" and "tired". "This club needs that impetus of energy," he offered, "but I just feel pretty worn out."

Yeah, from the post match interview he looked like he was going.

Doesn't look like too many credible candidates if we're looking to stay up; I'd rather get someone in to prepare for a promotion push in next season's championship. Looking like it's going to be Pulis though. God knows what he's going to make of Chamakh.

A light supper most probably

yannick bolasie chained to a radiator

lolz and all i guess but still it's been sad to see our formerly tiggerish saviour poisoned so over the years :/

palace look to have really fucked themselves letting ollie run riot in his monomanical panic though, will likely take whoever comes in longer than season to clear through the squad rubble

then again way it is now they'll still financially overmatch everyone in the champo so nbd i guess

Looking like it's going to be Pulis though. God knows what he's going to make of Chamakh.

― Flowersdie, Thursday, 24 October 2013 13:20 (48 minutes ago) Bookmark

"oh hi kenwyne you had a haircut or something?"

when we got redknapp in (and again after relegation) there was a lot of supporter talk about getting a young manager in to destroy and reshape and so forth but in truth anyone like that would have been eaten alive

seen some fleeting mentions of sean dyche for this gig but however counterintuitively would you really bet on him stopping the rot sooner than pulis

pour one out for lil jonathan williams though

haha oh yeah and jose campana

INT pulis study

slowly he puts the phone down. he heads to a bust of charles reep, turning it a secret door opens to reveal a lift deep down into the puliscave. there he strides down a long, long passageway past assorted iron maidens, morning stars, cat o' nine tails and the like to a spotlit glass display case where rests the baseball cap. it is time

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/71012000/jpg/_71012341_parish_getty.jpg

can never decide whether i like palace more or less for having poundshop green gartside as chairman

More, obv