slugbuggy i see a very successful tumblr in your future.
interesting posts j.! i find abigail really hard to decipher; i thought her expressions on the train DID show sublimated horror at what she was doing, but she's also such a good liar/manipulator that i would believe your interpretation too.
― persona insufficiently memorable (reddening), Sunday, 26 May 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
now that i have a more articulated sense of what to watch for i'd like to have another look, from the beginning, to try to follow the story - unfortunately the earlier episodes are already vanished from hulu, tv networks sure are either idiots or cheap about understanding their 'second screen' viewers' habits
― j., Sunday, 26 May 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link
or both
― jbn, Monday, 27 May 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link
man Lance Henriksen bought some Albert Fish to his character, creepy as hell. That whole speech about smiling and waving, going to church, good stuff
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 May 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
Renewed.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link
http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/hannibal-renewed-by-nbc-for-second-season/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link
:D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link
"In the next season, VegemiteGrrl convinces Hannibal that her unusual Australian taste due to a diet of koala tacos and Vegemite pancakes means he should look elsewhere."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
It deserves another series, it isn't perfect as many bitchy interlopers have pointed out. But hell it is good enough to warrant another.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link
if that stupid Lifetime/Clarice Starling thing goes ahead swear to god I'll give Mads $$$ to practice his craft
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
the series-long progression from "coy implication that hannibal killed somebody" to "hannibal straining bodily to rip a guy's jaw off his face" has been really effective in freaking me out.
― persona insufficiently memorable (reddening), Friday, 31 May 2013 07:26 (ten years ago) link
Agreed. I am also really glad they toned down the Hitler haircut.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 31 May 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link
CAT scan hallucination wigged me right out
also ppl under the bed O_O noooooooo why is this show trying to give me nightmares
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 May 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
“we'll help you with the nightmares.”
― slugbuggy, Friday, 31 May 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
The blurred out face caused by the mental illness made this more freaky/scary to me that it would have been if Hannibal's face had been shown.
― ...also i'm awesome (Nicole), Friday, 31 May 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
well with the blurry face we have no idea who it was at all. this show is getting weird.
― stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Friday, 31 May 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
I'm enjoying the regular characters' interactions way more then the sometimes slightly tiresome serial killer of the week stuff.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 25 May 2013 01:50 (6 days ago) Bookmark
defo. the show has come on leaps and bounds as these become more complex
signed, a former bitchy interloper
― r|t|c, Friday, 31 May 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
I think I remember we get an objective shot of Hannibal without blurred face before the subjective faceblind shot.
I do very much like how this show never clues you in in an obvious way as to what's the all-seeing camera's reporting and what's subjective and untrue.
― Three Word Username, Saturday, 1 June 2013 06:57 (ten years ago) link
probably more appropriate for this thread but there's been a few callbacks to Bryan Fuller's previous show Dead Like Me, eg diseased girl Georgia Madchen = dead reaper George Lass, both played by Ellen Muth.
And Laurence Fishburne's trainee who died was named Miriam Lass.
― Roz, Saturday, 1 June 2013 09:35 (ten years ago) link
thinking about it some more, it's kind of a twisted take on the character - George Lass, the supernatural dead girl who takes people's souls, might just be Georgia Madchen, who kills people because she -thinks- she's dead. :/
― Roz, Saturday, 1 June 2013 10:02 (ten years ago) link
She is:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/9449a21e1d7b37b7ff2f545860ebe21a/tumblr_mnn7vmUVnK1ssjjooo1_500.jpg
― ...also i'm awesome (Nicole), Saturday, 1 June 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
ah ok then!
― Roz, Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
this show
― Gukbe, Friday, 7 June 2013 03:04 (ten years ago) link
I was all "killing Max Chilton is NOT CANON" but they pulled back...somehow.
A friend who's had eye surgery was practically having a meltdown on Twitter over this episode.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 June 2013 03:05 (ten years ago) link
shit, i guess i better get a p. honest clock buddy in case my brain is inflamed and i got no clue
― j., Friday, 7 June 2013 06:06 (ten years ago) link
yeesh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotard_delusion
why did they make the girl all cro-mag?
― j., Friday, 7 June 2013 06:24 (ten years ago) link
I'm sure it was a perfectly fine performance, but sadly I cannot take Eddie Izzard as a serial killer seriously.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 7 June 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
yeah, it seemed uncharacteristic for him not to offer his victims the cake option.
― slugbuggy, Friday, 7 June 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
the portrayal of dr. gideon was meant to directly reference hopkins' version of lecter? like the entirety of the hopkins movies gets retconned as something that gideon imagined after he became convinced he was the ripper, or something. or else it's a bleeding through from an alt universe where hopkins really is lecter, but in this universe that role's already filled, so gideon becomes a vessel for that persona but can only function as a kind of manque, or a negative that points out the differences in the mads version.
― slugbuggy, Friday, 7 June 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link
I feel like I say this a lot on this thread, but man this show is so gross.
Also tattlecrime.com better be making crazy money to justify all the shit freddie lounds has been through.
― persona insufficiently memorable (reddening), Friday, 7 June 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
what made gideon ask lecter if he was the ripper?
― j., Friday, 7 June 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
Gideon's feeling headfucked; meeting the Ripper would help he figure out who he isn't.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 7 June 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
― slugbuggy, Friday, 7 June 2013 18:14 (1 hour ago) Permalink
i'd love to pick your brain sometime
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Friday, 7 June 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a135/TheWhiteTuxedo/2012/liotta-hannibal-brain.jpg
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Friday, 7 June 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
posting just to move the bookmark away from that pic :/
― Roz, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
:( i'm sorry
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Friday, 7 June 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
lol it's fine, I just didn't want it to freak me/other people out if I'm at work the next time I open this thread
― Roz, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
idk, it's one thing for a derivative work to diverge from the source material or even other derivative works in significant ways in terms of characterization or storyline etc., but when you take what was altered or excised and fold it back into the new work where it stands alongside its double it creates a kind of diegetic dissonance.
the "fake" ripper that gideon turns into is pretty much identical in personality , mannerisms, and bearing to a "real" ripper that exists in a different and extant diegetic reality, from the perspective of the viewer. i like the notion (that i don't actually believe but am going with anyway) that this is what is fucking with hannibal's sense of identity: not that there is a false ripper going around sullying his reputation, but that at some level gideon's ripper is as real as hannibal's.
otoh, hannibal already has an other in will that he's trying to turn into the ripper; gideon is kind of superfluous wrt that project anyway.
― slugbuggy, Sunday, 9 June 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
also i just wanted gideon to ask chilton "cake or death? well, we're all out of cake" before digging into him.
― slugbuggy, Sunday, 9 June 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
hannibal's conversations with du maurier are really tense:
d: "i know exactly what you are"
h: "out of respect i'm going to deflect that so i don't have to kill you"
d: "noted. wine?"
― slugbuggy, Sunday, 9 June 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link
seriously i love this idea of ripples throughout the hannibal multiverse
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 June 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I dig it too - in a weird way, it also fits in with what the show's doing with the georgia madchen/lass thing I mentioned upthread.
― Roz, Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
Eddie Izzard was a great fit for this role.
― stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Monday, 10 June 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link
i like this show!
the procedural stuff is dreadful (i don't like procedurals). izzard was pretty bad (i don't like izzard). the totem thing was ridiculous.
the menswear for both will and hannibal is amazing. hannibal's ties and collars. will's shirts are never ironed but are quite nice. wtf is going on with will's beard by the way. does he shave just the corners of his jaw?
― caek, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link
it kinda looks like he pulls it out in clumps instead of shaving, lol
yeah the tailoring is fantastic. and the design elements of Hannibal's office, or Quantico, just *mwah* so gorgeous
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:30 (ten years ago) link
i like hannibal's office curtains!
― caek, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 10:57 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/wAuEMVO.png
dr chiltern's pimp game was so tight this ep
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 11:36 (ten years ago) link
xpost omg yes the red & grey vertical stripe
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
no the stripes are horizontal iirc, which is even more pimp game for curtains
― caek, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link