Which Queens of Stone Age album should I buy?

Mark, I like you but you're so insanely wrong. It's even worse than the last one and that's really saying something.

fair enough mr doran.
i love the fact i am on the outside.

this album is easily my fave of the year so far.

I mean, the only people I've seen write a single good thing about it is you, the NME and a celebrity chef.

ok.
you're right.
i hate it.
it's shit.

(that said, after a few months of living with 'era vulgaris', i really grew to love it .. )

I feel bad now. Can you just go back to liking it again?

Love the new album! Show last night in LA was fuckin awesome.

MOJO have given new LP 5/5

i am not alone.

i am here with you

How do we know the 7' tall ginger marauder isn't stood next to you glaring in your direction while you're typing this?

i love the whole vibe of the album.
its dark.
its fucked up.
no glam stompers, no easy radio friendly grooves.
but its still very much a qotsa album.

btw xpost : if the ginger tinted man giant were here @ ireallylovemusic hq then do you really think i would give a shit re ilm ?

I meant Stevie, seeing as I presume he's out in LA interviewing him for someone or other.

He's not that big, I could probably have him.

Was prettttty excited to hear that Homme nabbed Jon Theodore to play the drums. NPR broadcasted the first live footage I've heard with a decent drum mix a couple days ago, and it's good, the new record is good, the old chestnuts are good, but I would love to hear a new set of tunes from Homme that are muscular/buckwild enough to really let Theodore flex his nuts a little, I think that would be real special.

that aforementioned Wiltern show
http://www.npr.org/event/music/185557912/first-listen-live-queens-of-the-stone-age-like-clockwork

New one is pretty damn good huh?

I can only ask this because the band is pretty different from album to album, but ... if I've never liked this band before, is there any reason to listen to this one?

its not as good as the 1st 3 albums so maybe you will like this if you didn't like their truly great stuff?

lol wow

josh it sounds like a queens of the stone age record so no probably not

i really like it regardless. "i sat by the ocean" has been in my head all day

yep this is just like every qotsa record but man it's a good one. way more consistent than the last few.

i love the whole vibe of the album.
its dark.
its fucked up.
no glam stompers, no easy radio friendly grooves.
but its still very much a qotsa album.

mark e is otm -- new album is, ack, a very mature album in that it still knows its pedigree but the energy of the album is far more measured and thoughtful. It's almost like it's even more drugged-out and psychedelic without the spaz and bombast that can frequently make the mellower tunes much less impacting. On par or better than anything he's done.

i've managed to avoid this band somehow completely over the past ten years but relented, I like the new one fine.

Wow - I'm already a total fan, but the new one really shines! And that's after I corrected playing Rpm to 45 on rekkid!

I'll personally stick up for Era Vulgaris as a good album, though it certainly has more filler than the new one. Lullabies is a bit crap on the other hand.

very glad this album is getting some love.
every day this week during my lunchtime browsing sessions, this album has been on the shops pa systems, and damn, it has sounded so good.
also, i eventually succumbed to the charms of era vulgaria
... took a bit longer than normal, but damn, it has some serious classics.

i wasn't sold at first but second listen is yielding good vibes

about as good as you could want a later-era QOTSA album to be. i love the old kyuss/rated r sound better than these last few albums, but I'm down with this for sure

that closing song reminds me of pink floyd, dark side of the moon kinda vibe

it's very pretty on first listen

haven't listened to these guys since songs for the deaf, but on first listen I'm digging this new album's gentleman stoner elegance

its a great album. its a greater album when you realise that a large amount of the songs are josh's way of dealing with the fact he died on the operating table for some minutes a few years back.

its a great album. its a greater album when you realise that a large amount of the songs are josh's way of dealing with the fact he died on the operating table for some minutes a few years back.

Accepted in principal; but citations required.

"Gentleman Stoner Elegance" should be a top trend for 2014. Let's make this happen people!

new blunted gentry

I Sat By the Ocean and Kalopsia are my favourites.

Accepted in principal; but citations required.

Check the lyrics to I Appear Missing in particular.

From Wiki:

In 2010, frontman Josh Homme was hospitalized for thirteen days, and subsequently bedridden for four months, following complications during a routine knee surgical procedure.[4] Homme noted, "I woke up and there was a doctor going, ‘Shit, we lost you.' I couldn’t get up for four months. When I did, I hadn’t got a clue what was going on." During this time, Homme sank into a deep depression, noting "I would never say, 'I'm probably not gonna make it out of here.' But back then, I would definitely think it."[4] The remaining members of Queens of the Stone Age - guitarist Troy Van Leeuwen, drummer Joey Castillo, bassist Michael Shuman and guitarist and keyboardist Dean Fertita - encouraged Homme to return to the band to begin work on a sixth studio album.[5] Homme noted, "I had to ask them 'If you want to make a record with me right now, in the state I’m in, come into the fog. It’s the only chance you got.' It brought us much closer, because you never really know someone till everything goes wrong."[6]

they played the whole album live last night:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01b7kmv

This is growing into a titan of a record.

this is a terrific album. however, i think the track order hurts it. it takes too long to really get going. it's okay leading off with Keep Your Eyes Peeled, and I Sat By The Ocean is a great way to follow it, but you can't piss away the momentum by then going straight into another more meandering track like Vampyre. having diagnosed the disorder i have fixed it. it's only an adjustment, not an overhaul, but i think it's a big improvement and, of course, you are welcome.

Keep Your Eyes Peeled
I Sat By The Ocean
My God Is The Sun
Kalopsia
If I Had A Tail
Fairweather Friends
Smooth Sailing
The Vampyre Of Time And Memory
I Appear Missing
...Like Clockwork

Amazing performance from "Like Clockwork"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqFnDWdUBi8

s & d :: desert sessions is a thread I keep reviving and receiving very little interest, so I'm reaching out to its members' home threads.

No help for that, but I have noticed that Songs For The Death is probably a key influence on the new Sturgill.

I made it through the first few minutes of the Sturgill record before I needed a break. Are you saying I should dive deeper?

No, put on Songs For The Deaf.

That works for me!

Didn't know that Homme & Dalle had split up in '19, and things have gotten progressively uglier since...

https://www.nme.com/news/music/josh-hommes-daughter-granted-extension-to-restraining-order-3057678

WARNING: TRIGGERING DETAILS OF (ALLEGED) CHILD ABUSE

Not to make light of anything here but it's not hard to believe a guy with a famous drinking problem who has been arrested for beating up one of the Dwarves and kicked a camera person in the face during a show might not be the best guy.

I mean, we 100% don't know the full story. There were about 100 pages of legal docs released a few weeks ago from Homme's side. I don't think anything has been made public like that from Dalle's attorneys. Part of what Homme alleges is that he's been in treatment and on Antabuse since the face kick incident, whereas Dalle has not. There is a ton more, which I won't detail here. Some of it is banal and some of it is definitely sketchy. There are probably depressing details about Homme in Dalle's attorneys' filings that haven't been brought to light yet. I'm not trying to advocate for anybody's "side".

I'm a fan of both musicians. They've both written songs for their children in the past that I've listened to a lot . I even have Josh's 7" from 2018 that features Brody and the kids performing Twas the Night Before Christmas (it's not really a great listen, imo, but it sucks to even see it in my record collection with all the familial rancor).

Whole thing sucks.

Oh yeah, it really does, especially for the kids. I wasn't inferring that it's all on him, btw, I know they've both been through a lot. Homme has just always come across as not a nice guy, so it's hard not to keep that in context.

Yeah, he's definitely got anger issues.