what's the greatest hits version -- an edit?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
i have a 7:36 from a bootleg labelled "tusk rehearsals" (nice version but terrible recording) and the original is 6:22 (Edited to 4:39 on earlier CD pressings).
yeah is GH the 4 min first CD release edit? and which alt are you talking about?
― caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
the ''It's all I want to do" vocal part in "you make loving fun"
― jbn, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link
That's Rumours, dog.
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
oh fuck sorry
― jbn, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
The GH version was for a long time the only full version extant
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link
how long are the GH version and the "original Tusk version"? is what you're calling "original" the 4:39 tusk first cd release?
― caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
I don't think I've ever listened to this album without hearing something I haven't heard before.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
But I'd like to mention an ol' favorite, the way "Save Me a Place" alludes to Brian Eno's "I'll Come Running."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
via wikiThe version of the song featured on the original vinyl release of Tusk was the unedited 6:22 version, but when Tusk was originally released as a single compact disc in 1987 it featured the edited 4:37 version of "Sara" which leaves out the middle verse and musical bridge. It was not until the 1988 Fleetwood Mac Greatest Hits compilation was released that the 6:23 version of the song became available on compact disc. Nicks is famous for hating shortened versions of her songs.
There is also a version known as "the cleaning lady" edit, so-called as Nicks is clearly heard to say at the beginning of the demo recording, "I don't want to be a cleaning lady!" This version lasts almost nine minutes and was actually released on the 2-disc remastered version Tusk in March 2004. It contains an extended vamp, which includes excised lines previously only heard in live performances, such as, "and the wind became crazy," "no sorrow for sorrow, you can have no more," and "swallow all your pride, don't you ever change—never change."
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
Confession: I'm a much bigger fan of "Storms" than I am of "Sara."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
another great thing about tusk -- that this of all songs was a singlehttp://images.45cat.com/fleetwood-mac-its-not-that-funny-1979.jpg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
Ha, listening to that right now!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
There is also a version known as "the cleaning lady" edit
ysi?
― caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
that's the one on the tusk bonus disc
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
weird that it's listed as "IT'S Not That Funny" there
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:30 AM (3 hours ago)
Me too, by a huge margin.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
I like both 'Storms' and 'Beautiful Child', but I'll always love 'Sara' more than the two of them put together.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
sara is a masterpiece, the original LP version 4 life
― one if by lamp, two if by deeznuts (m bison), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
One kinda subtle trainspottery thing I noticed about "Never Forget" is that on the outro the band sings "It Will Be All Right" 5 times with 5 different melodies (or shifts of emphasis at least).
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 1 September 2013 05:58 (ten years ago) link
the best timing for this thread - so many things to say
-the hypnotically simple major chord grooves on songs like honey hi and angel-the close harmonies on angel and just the whole vocal line-the thwomp! of The LEDGE intro-Think About Me as the song from Rumours that wandered off got lost and showed up on the wrong record!-everything about that's all for everyone - a brilliant song-the easing in of the over and over intro...the pacing in general....
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 1 September 2013 06:05 (ten years ago) link
So much to love - the crisp airless drums on Beautiful Child - the fade-in on Honey Hi - newspaper snares on The Ledge - the chaos breakdown and building chants in Tusk - rubber band guitars on That's Enough For Me - ultra minimal drum breaks at the end of Brown Eyes - the endless falling chords and shimmering haze of That's All For Everyone - impeccable fuzz guitar thickening Think About Me - literally every track has a little treat tucked into it somewhere.God, I have been living with this album since I was 9. If side 4 was the only music I could listen to for all time, I'd be OK with that.
― MatthewK, Sunday, 1 September 2013 09:19 (ten years ago) link
excellent BBC doc from last year
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01hxpxp
― piscesx, Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
man Ken Caillat is still clueless about the album.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 September 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
omg seeing Fleetwood Mac in antwerp in a month OMFG.
― Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 1 September 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link
The best, I suppose, way that I could answer that is to tell you of an experience that I had about a week ago in Ann Arbor, Michigan. We found this incredible health food store that had a restaurant, and I went in to pick out some things that I needed. And this girl came up to me. She was real tiny, real kind of dark hair, real straight, real plain, but real pretty, and she said, ‘You’re Stevie Nicks, aren’t you?’ And I said, ‘Yeah.’ She said, ‘Well, do you have a minute?’ I said, ‘Yes, I do.’ She said, ‘It’s very strange that you could have come here tonight because for a long time I have wanted to be able to walk up to you and tell you something. I am a graphic artist. I have no way with words. I draw and you sing, and you write and I create. To me, you are the best songwriter that I know. And I don’t know you.’ And I said, ‘But yes you do know me, because you were brave enough to come and tell me this.’ And she said, ‘I want you to know when you leave here that what you write makes me happy. It makes me sing, and I can’t sing. And it makes me laugh, and sometimes I don’t feel like laughing. But you have given me something, and I think that your writing is indeed something very special. And I know you hear it all the time—’ And I said, ‘Wait a minute. I don’t hear that all the time. And if you don’t tell me, who will tell me that?’The only thing that I ever wanted my whole life was to be a good writer and to write something that might take away somebody’s pain for a moment. And the fact is, I was right, because people do at some point sit down and listen to I Have Always Been a Storm and say, ‘And so have I always been a storm.’— Stevie Nicks (Jim Ladd 1979)
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 7 September 2013 07:59 (ten years ago) link
otm
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 September 2013 11:24 (ten years ago) link
Had a flash a few months ago that "I Don't Want to Know" off "Rumours" would also fit on "Tusk," if they scuffed it up a bit.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 September 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link
http://www.superseventies.com/oaaa/oaaa_fleetwoodmac4.jpg
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 19 September 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
That is so awesome.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 September 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
why the extra packaging...
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 20 September 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link
its cool though...
Angel studio outtakes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPn0U7qnXaY
Great live version, check the LB/SN moments around 2:30 - 3:15:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN8MvFQKtz8
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 05:33 (ten years ago) link
I've heard it a million times and I still can't unravel the randomness of the drums on "What Makes You Think You're the One."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 November 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwmrzSIXA5Q
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 November 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
I love putting songs from "Tusk" on mixtapes for friends don't really listen to much music, who, if they know Fleetwood Mac at all, only know it from the radio. Because the Stevie/Lindsey stuff in particular is so familiar, or half-familiar, that they sort of just go with it and don't even realize how weird it is. And so they end up thinking that "Tusk"-era Mac is perfectly normal and go around listening to all the spazzy stuff like it's some hit that everyone else knows and not some cult fave.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 February 2014 13:50 (ten years ago) link
It makes 74 minutes go by like nothing.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 May 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link
all i want to do is listen to 'tusk' and the stuff posted on the balearic disco thread for the rest of july
― dude (Lamp), Friday, 11 July 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link
why not, you deserve to be happy
― ugh (lukas), Friday, 11 July 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
the best double album of the 70s
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 12 July 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link
listening recently i noticed for the first time that the harmonies in save me a place are all multitracked lindsey, thats a great thing
― missingNO, Saturday, 12 July 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link
This MST3K credits sequence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLDQOVrtgJ4
― LimbsKing, Saturday, 12 July 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
^ YES
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 July 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
that is one insanely expensive credit sequence if they're actually licensing everything. also, it's awesome.
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 12 July 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link
The completely insane yet pleasingly non-obvious sequencing: "Over and Over" is the first song? "Never Forget" is the last song? "That's All for Everyone" is in the middle of the second side??― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, February 23, 2004 12:09 AM (10 years ago)
I contend that "Over and Over", over time, repeated listens, stretched across the decades, slowly but surely exerts itself as the greatest album opener ever.― collardio gelatinous, Friday, December 7, 2012 5:58 PM (1 year ago)
this issue has been on my mind lately. has anyone in the band ever talked about why they made "over and over" the album opener? it's a great song, but it's such a bizarre choice, even for a weird, sprawling double album. it's like taking the first lap of the indy 500 in first gear.
― PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 04:49 (nine years ago) link
You could definitely rearrange this record, swap a few bits round, take some songs out in order to make a more personal and palatable iteration of the original. Hmm... I wonder if anyone's ever tried doing this?
― 3kDk (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 08:51 (nine years ago) link
all i want to do is listen to 'tusk' and the stuff posted on the balearic disco thread for the rest of july― dude (Lamp), Friday, July 11, 2014 5:38 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― dude (Lamp), Friday, July 11, 2014 5:38 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Just saw this - Lamp, have you heard this groovy edit/remix by Gigamesh?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fss3Xn5dZzU
― 3kDk (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 08:52 (nine years ago) link
i first heard over and over on their 1980 live album, which was the first mac album i ever bought, as a kid. and that version remains one of my all time favourite mac tracks (lindsey's guitar solo, swoon) that the Tusk version, which i heard later, can't help but disappoint.
― The beer was cold, but so was the glass, which drives me crazy. (stevie), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:24 (nine years ago) link
You could definitely rearrange this record, swap a few bits round, take some songs out in order to make a more personal and palatable iteration of the original. Hmm... I wonder if anyone's ever tried doing this?― 3kDk (dog latin), Tuesday, August 5, 2014 6:51 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― MatthewK, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 12:19 (nine years ago) link
Seriously don't get the people who shake their heads at Over and Over as track one.
― how's life, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 12:26 (nine years ago) link