RAGE
― ✌_✌ (c sharp major), Monday, 20 May 2013 10:36 (ten years ago) link
OH FFS
― emil.y, Monday, 20 May 2013 10:50 (ten years ago) link
not but what a class action lawsuit against wakefield (not the nhs, just wakefield) would be sort of satisfying to watch
― ✌_✌ (c sharp major), Monday, 20 May 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link
I just wanted to big up The Lighthouse School and this thread is the closest thing to an ASC thread on here. After 6 years of wrangling with my local authority and soul crushing tribunals I have finally got my son into an appropriate school for his condition.
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/top-stories/leeds-free-school-set-to-grow-after-first-year-success-1-5783416
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 20 June 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
congratulations dude. i must admit i've been unsure about Free Schools - it seems like they can be started by people with all sorts of odd axes to grind - but something like this seems like a really good idea given the general paucity of specialist services across the country
― The drone that was played caused panic and confusion (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
sorry, not that i'm saying existing services are poor, just that there are nowhere near enough of them
― The drone that was played caused panic and confusion (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
Four of the teachers at The Lighthouse have ASC children who are also pupils so they have witnessed this paucity of 'whole autism' schools in the region and done something about it. They are the best teachers I have ever met for children on the autism spectrum. They have a link with the university and are targeting independence and further education for the pupils. The school that the LA originally put on my sons statement was a glorified prison, with a high staff turnover, regular police call outs, a headmaster who spend 15 minutes talking my wife's breasts and 0% of pupils going into further education. These people believe in their methods and believe in the potential of the pupils. Sorry I am rambling, but it is exciting.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 20 June 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
no i can imagine it is exciting, and yes i'm aware that those other kinds of school exist. hope your boy loves it and blossoms into whoever he wants to be.
― The drone that was played caused panic and confusion (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
Awesome piece by Chris Mooney:
The Science of Why We Don’t Believe Science -How our brains fool us on climate, creationism, and the vaccine-autism link.
https://medium.com/editors-picks/adfa0d026a7e
'We apply fight-or-flight reflexes not only to predators, but to data itself.'
― Hockey Drunk (kingfish), Thursday, 20 June 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for that. I know from your posts that you work with young ASC people. Respect man!
xp
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
Has anyone seen this ths book yet? Came out a coupla years ago:
http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9781439158647-0
The Panic Virus: A True Story of Medicine, Science, and Fear
By Seth Mnookin
― Hockey Drunk (kingfish), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
yeah i read it when it came out, it's v good
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
I liked it. The idea of a medical scare being spread like a virus is mildly annoying, a la "memes", but the history and analysis of the science are good.
― Plasmon, Monday, 24 June 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
is that where i found out about morgellons? i think so.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 24 June 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
The View replaces one dipshit blonde with another.
― kate78, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
Tho the exact words will change, it will be interesting to how much the song remains the same.
― Ze Meadow Morals Squad (kingfish), Monday, 15 July 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkrkaH_V7fE
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
i remember watching that ep live like...uhhhhhhhh
― educate yourself to this reality (sunny successor), Monday, 15 July 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
Meaning that McCarthy is not even the bottom rung on this show. God knows, Oprah has put her weight (no pun intended!) behind some dubious Dr. Oz shit. And "The Secret" and scams like that.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
God gives us markers
― kinder, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
hahahaone cant exist without the other
― educate yourself to this reality (sunny successor), Monday, 15 July 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
Thank you, god.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 15 July 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
Some friends of mine - all of whom are presumably very pro-vax - had a bit of a stoush on FB over this, one posted how angry she was McCarthy was set to host/be on the show, and how we should all write to ABC or NBC or whoever and stop it, and another friend bizarrely played devils advocate and was like "but why? Are you censoring her? Who cares what people on the View say, its not like anyone takes irt seriously" which I thought was being wilfully obtuse.
― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Monday, 15 July 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
well shes going to be on tv anyway. i feel kind of good that it will be with a flat earther. seems apt.
― educate yourself to this reality (sunny successor), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
I would watch the show if each of the hosts had a really specific crazy specialty, like a reverse superhero team. Flat earther, anti-vaxer, holocaust denier, survivalist bunker enthusiast and raw foodie evangelist, say.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
tbf she just "never thought about it."
― Treeship, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
The View isn't a newspaper, it's a talk show, and organizations can decide what viewpoints and ideas they want expressed in their programming. If a commercial audience overwhelmingly says that this is not the content they want, that's not censorship, it's listening to your audience.
This "don't censor" shit has gone far enough that the non-opinion pages of newspapers or factual journalism has felt the need to pander to idiots in the interest of "equal coverage." The preponderance of evidence and scientific consensus on vaccination is uncontroversial in reasonable circles. Having an anti-vaccination person like McCarthy as a "balanced" view is like interviewing an average citizen on race relations and balancing it with a KKK member.
― mh, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link
freedom to incite harm to life is a pretty grey area of "free speech" imo
― the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
no it isn't
just watched that clip, omg
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link
no it isn't why?
― the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
I think k3vin's implication is that it isn't a grey area, it's just pretty obviously wrong
― mh, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
to have people dead-set against such a brilliant, basic and crucial human achievement such as vaccination is stunningly sad, still. it's plainly evil.
― goole, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
sorry should have said it's not in the US, things might be different in the UK
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
I think we need an era of actual hard-line censorship so that people will stop equating "not giving a forum to dumbshits" w/censorship
― tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link
Any outlet to chemophobia has a tendency to reinforce such beliefs in those who hold or are susceptible to them. I mean, fuck, just look at the bollocks that shows up your Facebook feed if you're not quick enough to hide those posts.
― Ze Meadow Morals Squad (kingfish), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
How this ISNT a hate crime is beyond me.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/08/20/letter_attacking_autistic_boy_not_a_hate_crime_police_say.html
http://htmlimg4.scribdassets.com/11pquappkw2qq4ts/images/1-2631b19334.jpg
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
Wait, the kid whales?!
― Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
that's your problem with that letter?
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
well past a certain point you just can't make yourself care about that many excess exclamation points
― j., Wednesday, 21 August 2013 07:21 (ten years ago) link
i know burning that woman's house down would be the wrong response but still
― beans on toast and ghosts (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 07:28 (ten years ago) link
Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 07:33 (ten years ago) link
Heard the voice of NORMALITY many times but not received the rabid poison pen letter yet. On a positive note, most of this kid's neighbours threw an outdoor party for him to show their support or at least that was the story from a Canadian cable news station my wife showed me the other day.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 08:07 (ten years ago) link
The really stupid thing is that the kid doesn't even live there. He visits his grandma occasionally.
And what is this utopian neighborhood where everyone is 'normal'.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 09:44 (ten years ago) link
I once got accosted by a very angry lady at a swimming pool, who for some reason didn't like my son's very loud and excitable way of getting his sensory kicks with water. "You should teach him not to behave like that". In exchanges like this there is always an undercurrent of "this behaviour isn't fair on the normal kids" like "normality" is sacrosanct and justifies any disability-hate that "normal" people wish to express.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:37 (ten years ago) link
it comes across as barely-repressed fear to me, most of the time
― Dacca to Environ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:40 (ten years ago) link
not that fear is a more noble excuse than pig ignorance. some people really are incapable of behaving decently in public.
― Dacca to Environ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link
C'mon...
― Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
I think some people are just incredibly hateful. I've known people who constantly criticize everyone from family members to strangers on the street. Xpost
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
i know. sadly i'm related to some people person like that.
― Dacca to Environ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
innoculate things that make me irrationally angry:http://www.salon.com/2013/08/14/whats_with_rich_people_hating_vaccines/
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link