people don't often make sense until they've seen doom the movie
― ^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 16 May 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link
i haven't seen doom the movie, fwiw
always a little weird when people act like somebody's descendants have some kind of unique insight into their work. i mean first-generation maybe, if it's a working relationship like vladimir+dmitri or jrr+christopher. if you're just scottie's daughter wtf would you know about the great gatsby.
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link
(i mean, not weird in this case, cuz baz wants validation.)
i had fun at this movie. at the scene where gatsby was introduced and they showed leo's slick, smug face in slow motion framed by fireworks while nick talked about having "never seen a smile like that" i lost it, and started laughing, causing someone to kick the back of my seat. i think this movie suffers from the fact that the last time we saw leonardo di caprio in theaters he was also a multimillionaire lording over a massive estate, except he was a sadistic slave owner.
― Treeship, Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
no, we didn't see that
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
did you see gatsby morbs?
― Treeship, Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
I haven't seen DOOM. Is it any good? Does it have The Rock in it?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
I just had a brush with death, Tship, I don't have 2-1/2 hrs for that.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
feel you
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
Sorry to hear that Morbs. Hope you're feeling well.
― Treeship, Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
thx i am, p much
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
I like that Scott Fitzgerald called his son Scottie. If they're smart they'll keep on iterating through the lineage so that his son is Scottington, then he begets Scottolas etc etc until you end up with great great great grandson Scottieottiedopaliscious.
― sktsh, Thursday, 16 May 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
lol
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 May 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
i don't have such a bad recollection of the '74 film but it's been since highschool
we got shown this in class too, but the discussion afterwards turned into an argument btwn me and the teacher about whether or not it was fuckin terrible
― why does Kanye say he was based on the novel "Push" by Sapphire? (sic), Friday, 17 May 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link
I like A.O. Scott comparing Alien/Franco amd Gatsby.
― cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Friday, 17 May 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
the only reason our Yr 11 English Lit teacher showed us the movie was because she had a crush on Robert Redford. We had JUST finished the novel and we all watched that movie just openly dismayed at how soft-focused and pastel and uggggggh it was, and the main cast were so wooden. We all yelled at her afterwards and she just hung her head and said, 'But Redford was pretty cute, right?"
And whenever I think of that stupid movie, I think of this Australian tv commerical - in my mind they're one and the same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLXkL46-Ml0
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link
honestly teachers should prob just show 'citizen kane' instead.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 17 May 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link
teachers should be barred from inflicting their celebrity crushes on students. I had to sit through at least 2 Richard Gere movies in my first year Cinema Studies class because my lecturer just couldn't help herself. Ugh.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link
Due to the raging Peter O'Toole obsession I had as a teenager, which I put down to 'beautiful man who is really good at enunciating profanity', I edited Becket down to a classroom-friendly 90 minutes for extra credit in a European history class when we were doing a church v. state unit and persuaded the cinema teacher (who didn't need a ton of persuading TBH) to add The Ruling Class to his syllabus.
― on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link
We had JUST finished the novel and we all watched that movie just openly dismayed at how soft-focused and pastel and uggggggh it was, and the main cast were so wooden. We all yelled at her afterwards and she just hung her head and said, 'But Redford was pretty cute, right?"
ha ha a part of my argument was that Farrow was awful & unnuanced and 90% of her performance consisted of biting the back of her hand, and the teacher was like "she's an Oscar-winning actress, you can't say that she's bad"
if only I had known she was not an Oscar-winning actress
― why does Kanye say he was based on the novel "Push" by Sapphire? (sic), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link
suzy, Becket is one of the great homo-lust movies.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link
Farrow was actually well cast as Daisy! She was just badly directed.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:29 (ten years ago) link
yeah never seen the coppola gatsby but mia as daisy works for me, makes more sense than dipsy mumford or whatever
― balls, Friday, 17 May 2013 02:34 (ten years ago) link
but her voice sounds money, it doesn't sound LIKE money
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link
Somehow, my English teacher didn't know that Romeo & Juliet had been turned into a modern-day musical until I mentioned it one day.
So I apologize to the next 15 grades that came through her room and had to watch West Side Story.
― pplains, Friday, 17 May 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link
west side story is awesome. at first i thought you mean william shakespeare's romeo + juliet which is also pretty awesome. i think i pretty much like any movie of romeo & juliet, i'm just a big romantic i guess. justdudethings.
― balls, Friday, 17 May 2013 02:41 (ten years ago) link
<3 West Side Story, hate the film of it, could go on forever, won't.
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:46 (ten years ago) link
love the West Side Story movie
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link
you're testing my commitment to not ranting about this at great length
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link
i would love to hear your rant! tbh I've never seen the stage version, I just have nostalgia for watching the movie with my Mum
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:50 (ten years ago) link
yeah go for it silby i loved it when i saw it too
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link
Well my core objection to the film is that it casts adults to play the teenaged/maybe early 20s characters, which doesn't play on film like it does on stage, where you can suspend disbelief. It wrecks the whole hotheaded lovesick teenage-aimlessness theme of the show.
Other objections include casting mostly Anglos to play the Jets, and dealing with it by painting them all an identical shade of brown, and the repurposing of "Somewhere" from an anonymous soprano solo sung during the nightmare sequence that unites the warring gangs in a hopeful dream for a more humane future into a fucking SEX DUET.
In sum America is a land of contrasts and West Side Story is great when performed by high school students or Schlong.
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Friday, 17 May 2013 03:24 (ten years ago) link
Same English teacher showed us the 60s version of Romeo & Juliet, and jumped up to stand in front of the screen during the (5-second?) scene with nudity.
― pplains, Friday, 17 May 2013 03:54 (ten years ago) link
Also the prologue to West Side Story is like 20 minutes long.
Our teacher just fast forwarded the nude scene.
― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 17 May 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link
sex duet <3
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 04:11 (ten years ago) link
our teacher screwed that up, to our stunned satisfaction
― j., Friday, 17 May 2013 04:14 (ten years ago) link
As he sings, the walls of the apartment begin to move off, and the city walls surrounding them begin to close in on them. Then the apartment it self goes, and the two lovers begin to run, battering against the walls of the city, beginning to break through as chaotic figures of the gangs, of violence, fail around them. But they do break through, and suddenly-they are in a world of space and air and sun. They stop, looking at it, pleased, startled, as boys and girls both sides come on. And they, too, stop and stare, happy, pleased. Their clothes are soft and pastel versions of what they have worn before. They begin to dance, to play: no sides, no hostility now; join, making a world that Tony and Maria want to be in, belong to, share their love with. As they go into the steps of a gentle love dance, a voice is heard singing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80-DtChQ39U
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Friday, 17 May 2013 04:15 (ten years ago) link
there's probably a better thread for this
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Friday, 17 May 2013 04:19 (ten years ago) link
wow Silby that just made me cry. what a voice!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link
THEEEERE'S AAAAAA THREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD FOR UUUUUUUUUUSSSS
WEST SIDE STORY motherjumping sountrack poll!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 04:21 (ten years ago) link
skip here for more versions of this song that are mostly better than the one in the film, including possibly the Barbara Streisand one
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Friday, 17 May 2013 04:30 (ten years ago) link
60s version of r&j is awesome, espec if you're in middle school and your teacher's bad at remembering when to fast-forward
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 17 May 2013 04:54 (ten years ago) link
the botched fast forwarding of that scene is like a universal experience among american middle schoolers
― Treeship, Friday, 17 May 2013 04:58 (ten years ago) link
otm
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link
No Zefferelli for us, sob. Our R&J experience was delivered by an irritating dumpling who used to shout 'this is MY TIME' when we stopped paying attention to her. We stopped paying attention to her because correcting her mistakes was tiring after the first fifty times it happened.
― on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Friday, 17 May 2013 13:02 (ten years ago) link
my sophomore english teacher held a cardboard box in front of the screen during the sex scene(s?) in the fishburne/branagh othello and i made some big deal about how it was absurd and typical that we were censoring the sex but not the violence. didn't make much sense cuz the fishburne/branagh othello isn't exactly peckinpah but it did at least waste a little class time.
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Friday, 17 May 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
I've still never seen the Zeffirelli R&J.
As for WSS, stage musicals belong on the stage, esp when an otherwise talented director has no facility for giving them visual rhythm (hey Robert Wise), and oh the lead actors aren't doing the singing.
also YOU KIDS MAKE THIS WORLD LOUSY
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 May 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
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― turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 17 May 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link