Would you rather have been a Beatle, or have walked on the moon?

wow elvis that's awesome! I love that panorama you made!

The Beatles are a singular entity bc of their historical importance, but what they did is similar to what a lot of other people do, even if you think theyre the greatest band ever ( i do not, but i like them.)

Similar yes. There are thousands who did similar thing to men walking on the moon. Lots of explorers, lots of people who hopped around on rocky surfaces, lots of people rode in really fast vessels on long journeys. Yes, no one else has walked on the fucking moon, just like no one else has been the most famous fucking band of all time.

There are thousands who did similar thing to men walking on the moon.

not really. closest thing is maybe the guys who first scaled Everest (w/out oxygen).

afaik other explorers all had access to air and gravity which are, you know, kind of a big deal

yeah. honestly i think walking on the moon is "more different" than anything else than being a Beatle is, even though being a Beatle is also a singular distinction. if being a Beatle was just like being any other rock star this wouldn't be a good question and i wouldn't have made the poll. i wasn't arguing that.

lol @ ppl getting worked up

good work treezy

thanks wins. i'm very satisfied with this thread.

Going on record here.

Walking on the moon, taken purely as experience in isolation, with no reference to what comes before or after, is radically awesome and probably ranks as near the top as one of the most amazing possible experiences for a human. If we are talking about a make-a-wish-and-snap-your-fingers-wow-it's-true scenario, then I'm there in a flash.

All but one of the moon-walking astronauts were military officers. If walking on the moon meant becoming a military officer and putting up with all that implies, then walking no the moon would have been a fleeting glory within a largely miserable existance.

Being a Beatle would not be my idea of heaven, either, tbph. At least it did not require spit and polish, regimentation, or complete subordination to a heirarchy ending in the Pentagon at a time when we were killing a couple million Vietnamese.

that's a good answer aimless. yeah, being an astronaut would mean being a military man and that would 1.) be miserable and 2.) be incompatible with my sense of "who i am" in a way that being a beatle wouldn't be.

hmm, get mountains of trim and make hundreds of millions of dollars, or walk around a closed set in culver city while teamsters shine moon lights on you. tough choice

fallen comrades c24151n & outdoorfishes never achieved this, you should feel proud xps to treefish

lol who is outdoorfishes?

you iirc

(jk!) a shortlived sock basically

well said, Aimless. though c'mon - astronauts for the most part were not just 'military men' though, that undersells it by a large margin. half of them were fucking badass PILOTS. and being a pilot flying a p-51 mustang is not the same as being 'in the military'. that's like saying dragracers are in the automobile industry.

H4A I am banning u forever

well haha let's be fair and remember what most badass pilots were doing at the time.

still moon tho.

lol do you actually believe the moon landing was faked H4A? xpost

would prefer being stanley kubrick to at least 50% of beatles.

xpost treeship: what cankles believes or doesn't believe is largely irrelevant

Being a BADASS PILOT would require me to alter my personality so far out of itself as to kill it entirely. then what would be the point?

well said, Aimless. though c'mon - astronauts for the most part were not just 'military men' though, that undersells it by a large margin. half of them were fucking badass PILOTS. and being a pilot flying a p-51 mustang is not the same as being 'in the military'. that's like saying dragracers are in the automobile industry.

huh? they had to go through military training, cut their hair, follow orders, and a couple of them served in the korean war. they were "military men" who were "in the military" by any definition of the term.

yeahhhh, i wouldn't want to be a military man at all, even if i got to be napoleon

afaik other explorers all had access to air and gravity which are, you know, kind of a big deal

― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:12 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTOH they often starved to death or ran out of fresh water or got stranded at sea or murdered by hostile natives. It's not diminishing the accomplishments of the moon missions to note that "exploration" as a thing was hardly a walk in the fucking park.

there was a "cool" thing where the astronauts would send registered mail to their wives that they were to auction off in 60s version of ebay in case they didn't return. weird insurance policy.

I wouldn't even want to go through basic training. getting up early, following orders, the food, the physical activity. not for me. not even if I got to go to the fuckin moon for a day.

wk I'm not saying they weren't in the military.

I mean the entire 1912 Robert Scott expedition to the South Pole starvespd to death in the middle of Antarctica a mere 57 years before the first moon landing. But yeah, they had gravity and air, that's awesome.

would y'all be up for space tourism though? it's pricy and you only get to space station instead of moon, but you can skip the air force reqs.

From Elvis Telecom's link:

Of course, all questions of budget or federal jurisdiction aside, an Offworld Landscapes National Park or National Monument is an incredible thing to contemplate.

A National Park—or, why not, a UNESCO Offworld Heritage Site—that consists only and entirely of landscapes designed to simulate other planets!

Would visit.

yeah me too

except it's in phoenix = hot as fuck = maybe visit at night? idk

Also JFTR an abundance of gravity would be the last thing anyone wants when trying to shoot things into space for reasons that should be pretty obvious so

starving to death/being killed by hostile natives hardly unique to explorers throughout history tbh

experiencing a completely foreign environment - ie, one without air, moisture or gravity = totally unique

but keep comin at me bro, fulfill that deepseated desire you have to disagree with me about every single little thing I say rmde

but, you always make your arguments on Shakey's grounds.

think about how much more money+pussy the conquistadors got than the apollo astronauts

doesn't look like the most romantic feeling an explorer has ever known NOW does it

(actually, many of them died in debt in the jungle. but yknow.)

wk I'm not saying they weren't in the military.

I know you were saying they were something better than merely "in the military". but my point, (and I think where aimless was coming from as well) is that the most basic aspects of being in the military are so fundamentally unpalatable to me that it doesn't matter that they were the coolest badass dudes in the military. they were still in the military and therefore had a job I would never want to have.

but it was all worth it they got to bounce around on a desolate rock for a few hours

I would go to the moon like this though...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aIluE3pyWJk/UElnQJUDhaI/AAAAAAAADzw/VGgZnj-U9MI/s1600/02.jpg

but keep comin at me bro, fulfill that deepseated desire you have to disagree with me about every single little thing I say rmde

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lol stop saying categorically stupid shit and engaging in false binaries

http://www.onelowerlight.com/writing/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/out_of_the_silent_planet.jpg

not really. closest thing is maybe the guys who first scaled Everest (w/out oxygen).

my point is you can say "not really. closest thing is maybe Rolling Stones" for Beatles. "more different" is really arbitrary/subjective. if they were able to simulate a moon walk conditions on Earth how "more different" is it truly?

i voted the beatles because i want to die in 1980

by simulate moon walk do you mean training in a swimming pool or vomit comet?

presumably gd means getting some kind of brain implant so that you will be under the impression you once saw your entire home planet hanging over your head like a fragile soapy marble

lool

Holy shit the astronauts experienced zero gravity and a complete lack of oxygen and water

oh, wait

(i) no they didnt tbh
(ii) sounds shit anyway

lol

i forget which astronaut it was, but he did say that one look at earth from that perspective turned him into a pacifist.
it was like instant karma.