The Great Gatsby

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literature vs film

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:04 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, and i like that Robert Towne quote you posted upthread, but if you're going to take on this thankless adaptation, don't have tobey fucking maguire actually SAY, "the eyes of God" like you're SparkNotes or some fucking thing. there have to be ways to do this better.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link

obvs the only way to do it is to read every word of the novel and have it be 8 hours long, like Gatz

horseshoe, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link

It's just as bad as that EXTREME CLOSE UP LOOK OUT THIS IS IMPORTANT closeup of Robert Redford in the '74 film as he says "Her voice is full of MONEY."

Baz would score that line to Pink Floyd's "Money" though.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link

ugh don't remind me

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link

when they used the VO to give a heavy-handed interpretation of daisy's line about the shirts

a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link

ty horeshoe, I feel even better about not seeing this

I'm sure I'll watch it out of curiosity when it's on tv or something but there's no way I'm going to the theater to see it, I'd rather put spoons in my eyes

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link

that was bad

a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

if you're going to do a lit classic, you either do it with pungent typecasting like Lean in Great Ezpectations -- but then Dickens is so different, begging to be PERFORMED -- or shake things up like Campion w/ Portrait of a Lady.

if neither of those will work, do an original or a pulp adap, so no one will be grading you.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

i did think that the actor who played tom was a good physical match to how i imagined tom in the novel, at least much more than bruce dern in that respect

a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link

yes, i agree, elmo. the 1974 movie is crappy as far as i can remember? i am not sure i've ever seen the whole thing tbh.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link

it's one of the worst films ever made

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

i don't have such a bad recollection of the '74 film but it's been since highschool

a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

strange that '74 Gatsby's director, Jack Clayton, did the brilliant film of "The Turn of the Screw," The Innocents.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link

haha thats an awesome post horseshoe

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link

are there any non-gatsby fitzgerald films? 'bernice bobs her hair' might make a good short film.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link

the guy who played tom is joel edgerton, he has a great old timey mug on him. he looked like a buff conan o'brien in Warrior

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link

xpost there's a movie version of Keep the Aspidistras Flying and I can't for the life of me remember what it was called, it was Richard e Grant & helena Bonham carter, it was p good!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link

don't forget the shitty shitty shitty benjy button

Moldy ★☆☆☆☆ (wins), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link

can't imagine this gatsby being worse than that

Moldy ★☆☆☆☆ (wins), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

People who've seen Gatsby for work are complaining that the characters all look too sweaty. So that's a fail, because preppies don't sweat - they perspire.

on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

about the only thing the Clayton version got right: even in an expensive Upper East Side hotel you can still sweat like horses.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link

I liked Button, was merely 'suggested' by FSF.

Kazan's Last Tycoon w/ De Niro is fuzzy in my memory. Jason Robards did a Tender Is the Night film, never saw it.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link

De Niro's quite good in TLT, one of his least heralded performances. The movie's a waste of a good cast though.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link

uggggggh what part of fitzy's funny acid little story suggested that 6hr borefest xp

Moldy ★☆☆☆☆ (wins), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link

i saw the last tycoon and barely remember anything about it

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link

There's a 70s PBS version of Bernice w/Shelly Duvall.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link

I checked out of the public library a loooooong time ago. She was fine playing a variant on her 3 Women character.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link

i just want to see a version of gatsby where everyone is exactly as terrible as they are in the book

a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link

The Australian director added: "The other night we had a premiere and completely out of the blue a woman came out of the audience. She was quite old and frail. She held me by the hand and said, 'I've come to see what you did with my grandfather's book.' And of course I went cold, because I didn't know it was Fitzgerald's granddaughter.

"She said, 'All his life he's been maligned because you can't transfer first person narrative into film and in my opinion you have done it, and he would be very proud'."

yeah this doesn't sound made up

... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 16 May 2013 08:38 (ten years ago) link

Why would Gatsby's granddaughter think her grandfather had been maligned because you can't transfer first person narrative into film? Like wtf has this got to do with F Scott?

... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 16 May 2013 08:41 (ten years ago) link

Sorry Fitzgerald's granddaughter

... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 16 May 2013 08:41 (ten years ago) link

When director Baz Luhrmann went on “The Colbert Report” last week to talk about his new adaptation of The Great Gatsby, he mentioned that a “very regal woman” took him by the hands after the movie’s world premiere and told him she’d come all the way from Vermont to see what he’d done with her grandfather’s book.

That woman was Bobbie Lanahan, an artist, animator and filmmaker, and the daughter of F. Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald’s only child, Scottie.

how's life, Thursday, 16 May 2013 10:58 (ten years ago) link

Why would Gatsby's granddaughter think her grandfather had been maligned because you can't transfer first person narrative into film? Like wtf has this got to do with F Scott?

it's bollocks anyway

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/58/Doom_movie_poster.jpg/220px-Doom_movie_poster.jpg

^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 16 May 2013 12:26 (ten years ago) link

Why would Gatsby's granddaughter think her grandfather had been maligned because you can't transfer first person narrative into film? Like wtf has this got to do with F Scott?

ppl not necessarily makin sense shocker

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 May 2013 12:28 (ten years ago) link

people don't often make sense until they've seen doom the movie

^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 16 May 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link

i haven't seen doom the movie, fwiw

^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 16 May 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link

always a little weird when people act like somebody's descendants have some kind of unique insight into their work. i mean first-generation maybe, if it's a working relationship like vladimir+dmitri or jrr+christopher. if you're just scottie's daughter wtf would you know about the great gatsby.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

(i mean, not weird in this case, cuz baz wants validation.)

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

i had fun at this movie. at the scene where gatsby was introduced and they showed leo's slick, smug face in slow motion framed by fireworks while nick talked about having "never seen a smile like that" i lost it, and started laughing, causing someone to kick the back of my seat. i think this movie suffers from the fact that the last time we saw leonardo di caprio in theaters he was also a multimillionaire lording over a massive estate, except he was a sadistic slave owner.

Treeship, Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link

no, we didn't see that

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link

did you see gatsby morbs?

Treeship, Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link

I haven't seen DOOM. Is it any good? Does it have The Rock in it?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link

I just had a brush with death, Tship, I don't have 2-1/2 hrs for that.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link

feel you

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link

Sorry to hear that Morbs. Hope you're feeling well.

Treeship, Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

thx i am, p much

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

I like that Scott Fitzgerald called his son Scottie. If they're smart they'll keep on iterating through the lineage so that his son is Scottington, then he begets Scottolas etc etc until you end up with great great great grandson Scottieottiedopaliscious.

sktsh, Thursday, 16 May 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link

lol

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 May 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link

i don't have such a bad recollection of the '74 film but it's been since highschool

we got shown this in class too, but the discussion afterwards turned into an argument btwn me and the teacher about whether or not it was fuckin terrible

I like A.O. Scott comparing Alien/Franco amd Gatsby.

cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Friday, 17 May 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link


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