Would you rather have been a Beatle, or have walked on the moon?

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there is nothing that the Beatles ever did in their career that is as REMOTELY as cool that compares to being able to have a photo LIKE THIS taken in your career

http://www.stvincent.edu/uploadedImages/SVC_Pulse/Blog/John_Smetanka/young_neil_armstrong.jpg

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link

It seems so weird to me but then I remember what ILM is like. xp

The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link

survival training in the desert to make Sgt Pepper? NO I DIDN'T THINK SO

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/armstrong082712/s_a04_S6414507.jpg

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link

Seeing the home of us all reduced to a humble tennis ball vs mccartney/lennon shit is no competition at all.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link

you cannot fuck with space

space always wins

always

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link

i thought we didn't even like the beatles anymore tbh

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

the only way that the Beatles and the Apollo astronauts are in the same conversation is if Abbey Road could realistically explode in flames with the Beatles inside it at any given moment throughout their recording career.

zero beatles died making their first album.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link

this question really annoys me

A LOT

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

What if the choice was between the moon and being a member of Floyd while recording Astronomy Domine THEN WHAT I ASK YOU?

Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

MOON
MOON
MOON
MOON
MOON

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link

"if Abbey Road could realistically explode in flames with the Beatles inside it at any given moment"

travelling to the moon is the most dangerous exploration ever taken by humanity and that is including some silly shit we have done in the past on this rock.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link

Even Syd, bless him is mediocrity compared to the brave nutters who went to the moon.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

Beatle, easily.

walking on the moon obviously trumps anything the beatles ever did

Haven't read through the thread--I'm hoping, and assuming, I'm not the first person to strongly disagree with this. I'd say the Beatles effect on the course of history was incalculably greater. If we eventually set up colonies on the moon, I'll reconsider this.

clemenza, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

whaaaat

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link

explain yourself

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link

Forget the big picture here Clemenza, if you saw our planet from distant orbit it would change your life more than being a pop star.

Jason Dowd, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link

i wonder if the first 4 astronauts on the moon will as a group outlive the first 4 beatles?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link

I'd say the Beatles effect on the course of history was incalculably greater

no

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

let's see one is the apex of scientific achievement and exploration of the species. the others made a bunch of records/money. hmm

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link

we did something no organism from this planet has ever done before and you're like "oh b-b-but We Can Work It Out!" gtfo

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link

The apex you say? Good news science, Shakey says you can pack it in, first round is on me!

Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link

We have working robots on the surface of Mars right now jftr

Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link

Culturally, the Beatles turned the world upside down--it was a drastically different world in 1970 than it was in 1964, and I'd say the Beatles had more to do with that than anyone. (I'll concede that MLK, Dylan, and maybe Warhol rival them.) The moon landing was a great thing--I'm not trying to diminish that--but I just don't see that it transformed the world in the same way.

I realize there's room for disagreement.

clemenza, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link

way easier to put a computer in a hostile environment than a person obvy

xp

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link

we did something no organism from this planet has ever done before

This is true of basically everything ever btw

Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link

don't get me wrong I often marvel at the fact that we have robots on Mars too

xp

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

"Would you rather be a Beatle or design Fallingwater NOT SO FAST THERE GUY."

Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

neil = john
buzz = paul
??? = george
??? = ringo

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link

someone please google LIST OF TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE BCZ OF NASA SPACE EXPLORATION as I am stuck on my phone & cannot pwn clemenza

seriously "turned the world upside down" is not even a tangible THING that they DID

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link

I am shortchanging the resultant technology, I'll concede that. And that I'm heavily biased. But I think you're also seriously shortchanging how much the Beatles affected the world, VG.

(This is all really separate from the actual poll question anyway...)

clemenza, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link

MOON
MOON
MOON
MOON
MOON

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:54 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-stXUID-TRc4/T8nLysNKWlI/AAAAAAAAFp8/aT7dYCeAASU/s640/keith+and+macca.jpg

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link

being the first guy on the moon is cool. being the second through 12th guys on the moon is only cool because we stopped at 12. if thousands of people had been to the moon by now nobody would give a shit about those other guys. there's nothing special about it beyond "I was there first" bragging rights.

and space is deep and all, and when you're lost it's so relentless but I feel like the earth is getting short shrift here. especially since 90% of what makes being on the moon cool is getting a good view of the earth. there are so many fascinating places to explore on earth that most of use have never been to.

wk, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link

clemenza is right in a certain respect re: cultural history. I'll bet if I walk outside right now and ask the first 50 people I see, every one of them can sing me at least the chorus of at least two Beatles songs; but not more than 5% will be able to name two people who walked on the moon, what the name of the moon missions was, or when they took place.

Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link

the bottom line for me is easy though. same question I've based every other career decision on: which job allows me to get high every day?

wk, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link

kids today don't care about beatles either though.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

bob marley is oddly in ascendance though.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

clemenza I love the Beatles. they were creative geniuses and in the sphere of music at the time, sure they were astronauts.

but they did not risk their lives nor INVENT from whole cloth the technology they needed to *record* their albums. they did not do the impossible. the Apollo astronauts did & no amount of nostalgia & tearful love of music could convince me otherwise.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

clemenza is right in a certain respect re: cultural history. I'll bet if I walk outside right now and ask the first 50 people I see, every one of them can sing me at least the chorus of at least two Beatles songs; but not more than 5% will be able to name two people who walked on the moon, what the name of the moon missions was, or when they took place.

and there are a lot of young people who dig the beatles, but I think it's kind of impossible for somebody born post moon landings to understand what it was really like to watch the first moon landing live on TV. it was a monumental event apparently but that feeling is forever lost for the rest of us isn't it? kind of a one time deal.

xp

wk, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link

wk: dude, space is not like going to the fucking ocean. EVERY time someone goes to the moon or mars it is a ridiculous feat of human engineering

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link

"but they did not risk their lives nor INVENT from whole cloth the technology they needed to *record* their albums. they did not do the impossible. the Apollo astronauts did"

why no love for the nerds down at mission control??

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

I'm with VG here obvy

I get kinda choked up looking at my grandfather's slides of him watching the first moon landing on TV

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

I'm not trying to be glib here: in the end, apparently John did risk his life pursing his chosen profession. Anyway, I'm off to see Room 237--if you're on Team Moon, that's fine. I was Apollo-crazy in 1969. What I really wonder about is what it would have been like to have walked on a Beatle. I'm thinking George may have engaged in some mystical exploration along those lines.

clemenza, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link

wk: dude, space is not like going to the fucking ocean. EVERY time someone goes to the moon or mars it is a ridiculous feat of human engineering

I think you're looking at it the wrong way. the thread question isn't about which is the greater technical accomplishment or milestone for all mankind. the question is which life would be more interesting to experience. kind of a question of individual genius vs. collective effort in a way.

wk, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

testify, VG

Koné 2013 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

neil armstrong did not invent the technology that took him to the moon

anyway, 'greatest impact on history' is a curious way to look at this q

mookieproof, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link

would you rather have written the entire collected works of shakespeare or have been one of the actors in your favorite movie?

wk, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link

i'm shocked at how many moonies there are here....i also think alot of the responses are really fuckin' funny. keep it going!

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link

and space is deep and all, and when you're lost it's so relentless but I feel like the earth is getting short shrift here. especially since 90% of what makes being on the moon cool is getting a good view of the earth.

― wk, woensdag 15 mei 2013 1:20 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is beautiful, mah man

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link


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