Would you rather have been a Beatle, or have walked on the moon?

there is no moon downtown to take that mass transit to

the moon will be cool when we have a space city

like okay, you're on the moon, now what, bounce around for a while, take some pictures, hit a golf ball

take acid and listen to the Beatles

i would hijack the moon and crash it into liverpool in 1962

you can take acid and listen to the beatles while on a vacation on earth too, and it's cheaper and you are less likely to die

like the way Nick is thinking

yes but the view is not as good and like I said, savages abound

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listening to the Beatles >>>>>> being one

I'm sure thinking about space stuff >>>>>>>> actually being an astronaut

not if the experience is transcendent?

the experience of writing and playing good music is pretty transcendent to me and I suck compared to the beatles.

it seems dumb to me to fantasize about going to the moon if you haven't even done something like go scuba diving. like who am I kidding, I would probably never go to the moon, even if space tourism were relatively inexpensive.

I understand that but I think shouldering the adulation and creepy fixations of the full range of the human scrum would be a bigger pain in the ass than anything astronauts had to put up with (aside from spending all that time in Texas and Florida).

there was that conspiracy dude that Buzz Aldrin punched that time

idk if it's fair to call going to the moon an experience rather than an accomplishment; i mean, i get that they didn't do it alone (all those george martins back at mission control) but, like, it's a lot of dangerous work to go to the moon! they didn't just buckle up and put in earphones and then pile out when they got there.

Yeah, I'm assuming the choice includes guarantees that 1) We survive the flight or 2) Some crazy guy doesn't shoot us in front of the Dakota.

Interesting discussion. I just want to jump in and say that dylann's point, upthread, about groupies is basically irrelevant. I'm sure Buzz Aldrin had/could have had his share of effortless sex.

u hv read or seen The Right Stuff?

It's interesting you bring up the stress and drawbacks of fame, Morbs. I was talking about this with a friend recently and he said that extremevfame and the corresponding lack of public anonymity is so fundamentally different from his experience that be couldnt say for sure how bad the drawbacks would be. In this way its like goung to the moon: i will never really know what its like, so its hard to say how great/powerful an experience it would be.

I suspect the life of a Beatle incorporated more freedom and more fun than being an astronaut. Look at Ringo. Walking on the moon would be beyond awesome.

I understand that but I think shouldering the adulation and creepy fixations of the full range of the human scrum would be a bigger pain in the ass than anything astronauts had to put up with (aside from spending all that time in Texas and Florida).

Morbs otm.

George Harrison got stabbed and John Lennon was shot and killed due to their Beatles fame, I would not want to deal with the unrelenting creepiness of obsessed fans every day. I think that would be a paranoid and sad way to live.

Thats true, the type of obsession the Beatles inspired was unique and put them in danger. It wasn't just that they were super famous.

I'd probably choose to be Ringo, since he didn't really have much to do with the legal shit towards the end. And he hung out with Keith Moon.

But if you've read Peter Doggett's You Never Give Me Your Money, you're likely to come away thinking that being a Beatle was an endlessly frustrating ordeal.

it seems to me that walking on the moon is one of those things that's only awe inspiring because nobody else has done it. like being the wright bros vs. some schmuck on a commuter flight. obviously there must be something inherently amazing about being on the moon, but how great could it really be compared to acid?

drop acid on the moon obvs

Be s beatle, buy a trampoline

michael jackson did the moonwalk & bought the beatles catalogue, I wonder which he enjoyed more

fucking little boys, presumably

ON ACID

It's amazing that just three weeks after Armstrong and Aldrin walked on the moon the Beatles successfully walked across Abbey Road. Things happened so fast in the '60s.

it's amazing that both walks were accompanied by speculation of fakery

The real Paul McCartney was on the moon while his double crossed Abbey Road iirc

Thankfully none of the later moon missions landed four men on the moon, because only that fact spared us the inevitable "funny" recreation of the Abbey Road cover.

(The photo of Jason Spaceman crossing Abbey Road seems not to exist...)

I'd rather walk on the moon than be Paul McCartney.

THE MOON THE MOON THE MOON THE MOON wtf how is this even a question jesus christ some of you people itt

i am going to FP every single one of you jerks who does not vote walking on the moon

there is nothing that the Beatles ever did in their career that is as REMOTELY as cool that compares to being able to have a photo LIKE THIS taken in your career

http://www.stvincent.edu/uploadedImages/SVC_Pulse/Blog/John_Smetanka/young_neil_armstrong.jpg

It seems so weird to me but then I remember what ILM is like. xp

survival training in the desert to make Sgt Pepper? NO I DIDN'T THINK SO

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/armstrong082712/s_a04_S6414507.jpg

Seeing the home of us all reduced to a humble tennis ball vs mccartney/lennon shit is no competition at all.

you cannot fuck with space

space always wins

always

i thought we didn't even like the beatles anymore tbh

the only way that the Beatles and the Apollo astronauts are in the same conversation is if Abbey Road could realistically explode in flames with the Beatles inside it at any given moment throughout their recording career.

zero beatles died making their first album.

this question really annoys me

A LOT

What if the choice was between the moon and being a member of Floyd while recording Astronomy Domine THEN WHAT I ASK YOU?

MOON
MOON
MOON
MOON
MOON

"if Abbey Road could realistically explode in flames with the Beatles inside it at any given moment"

travelling to the moon is the most dangerous exploration ever taken by humanity and that is including some silly shit we have done in the past on this rock.

Even Syd, bless him is mediocrity compared to the brave nutters who went to the moon.

Beatle, easily.

walking on the moon obviously trumps anything the beatles ever did

Haven't read through the thread--I'm hoping, and assuming, I'm not the first person to strongly disagree with this. I'd say the Beatles effect on the course of history was incalculably greater. If we eventually set up colonies on the moon, I'll reconsider this.

whaaaat

explain yourself

wait, no, Black Cowboys was from Devils & Dust. Point still stands.

Also, the "little Texas" aspect of Freehold.

In Forest Hills, Queens, where I lived for a year in 2009-2010, there's a stable called GallopNYC where anyone may schedule 30 minutes to visit the horses regardless of ability to pay. Most of their horses are retired and tend toward a mild temperament in their old age, so they are prized as therapy animals. They have lovely names, like 'Popcorn'.
Ordinarily, the place is crowded, loud and chatoic, but during the pandemic it's been blissfully tranquil.

Since my last visit, I've imagined a colony of these gentle horses in a bucolic place where they are free and undisturbed, like a utopia, a world of only horses. That's what I try to think about when I go to bed at night.

I think my initial post made it fairly clear that I couldn't care less about actual cowboys, you know, it's the loss of all those cowboy dreams.

I Couldn’t Care Less About Actual Cowboys (It’s the Loss of All Those Cowboy Dreams)

It's the companion horses who maybe only existed in the imaginations of children, who were cruelly cast aside when they saw those spectacular images of the moon landing and changed plans.

Honestly, i think i'd be ok with them deciding to dream about going to the moon if they'd wanted to bring their horse.