Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

Actually I hate her, but I love what an excellent villain she is.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/05/boldly-going-to-houghton/

Which I read about here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2013/05/14/star_trek_pages_from_the_writers_guide_for_the_original_series.html

Which also links to this:
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/houghtonmodern/2011/11/03/live-long-and-prosper-and-dont-put-anything-in-the-crews-pockets/

xp

HARD CUT to lights blinking on computer console, PULL BACK to REVEAL this thread entering Custos territory

Ok is there a good point for starting with DS9 once you've watched the pilot?

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/the_completist/2013/05/star_trek_movies_and_tv_series_which_are_the_best_why.single.html

Really good article at totally OTM.

that your nickname for slate now?

Ok is there a good point for starting with DS9 once you've watched the pilot?

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S1E1? I mean, there's some o_O eps in the first season, but they lay the foundation for the major story arc from the beginning so I think it's worth dealing with the occasional Move Along Home to get that grounding in the series overall.

"miri"'s so heavy. DID YOU EVER SEE ONE OF THEM NOT CHANGE?

a lot of slow stuff at the beginning of DS9, but some good stuff too. you've committed to watching a 7-year series, sit in for the long haul

We're back up to season 4 on our second rewatch of DS9. Still great.

I'm not a fan of ds9 but this episode is awesome:
http://youtu.be/v9NozYjzorE

I love that one. Many people don't because Sisko really does some scenery chewing in it.

7 years is nothing, i just hit year 14 in my complete law & order rescreen

TONIGHT... my wife and I run out of episodes of TNG :(

It has been so awesome. Psyched to start DS9 though as I skipped it totally when it was originally running.

We should do a TNG episodes ballot poll...

did you recognize any tng/ds9 actors on law & order out of makeup?

the end of tng is the best part!

i only watched trek when i was an adolescent, so it's been a long time. i suppose i notice the main cast when they pop up.

I could watch Avery Brooks chew scenery all day.

Oh and TNG ep ballot poll would be pretty awesome.

I think Darmok would top mine but idk.

Worf's gf being Marshall's mom on HIMYM has been my favourite discovery to date. Only in s4 of TNG, happy to have so much left myself.

whaaaaaaaaaaaat???? never made that connection

Arrrgh s4 is so great

xp yup! Judy Ericsson in a skin tight body suit: so weird.

This actress later married bobcat goldthwait
http://starwrecked.com/contents/celebs/large-pics/Nikki-Cox-as-Sarjenka-Star-Trek-TNG-Pen-Pals-6.jpg

Ha, no kidding.

Best of Both Worlds would be my top TNG ep.

That one with Chopin, the flute playing, and the roll-out MIDI keyboard is fucked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lessons_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

There is about 20 minutes of crappy flute playing up in that bitch.

Penny whistle, though! The musical aspects were lol but I loved that episode.

Whats the one with the poker game where thy keep blowing up? That's good, that one

I saw that flute-whistle-whatevs thing on late-night TV and I though I was dreaming. Did dig it too though, don't get me wrong.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_and_Effect_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

The production team had hoped to get Kirstie Alley in a cameo role behind Kelsey Grammer in the USS Bozeman shots, reprising her role as Lt. Saavik from the movie Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, but her asking price was too high for such a small role.[1]

They could have got the other saavik cheaper I'd bet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPoqNeR3_UA

I just burst out laughing when I saw the "HD Version" link in the YouTube window.

They could have got the other saavik cheaper I'd bet

Even better, re-cast the part with Shelley Long

That is my kind of humour!

Guys DS9 is kind of rough going. I mean it's picking up a bit... we just watched episode 5. IDK I guess TNG was kind of chore for the first several episodes too. Avery Brooks' line reading style takes a lot of getting used to. He's a really strange, mannered actor, especially in that opening two-parter.

it gets watchable much more quickly than TNG. if you could suffer through the first two seasons of TNG, you can get through the first two of DS9

It helps that there's a novelty alien every 5 minutes to look at.

you will learn to love the Sisko

you better >:(

sisko rocks. he's totally weird but that's a big part of his charm. have you seen his segment in captains where he answers shatner's questions with jazz piano?

No but now I'm looking forward to it!

sisko is really bland compared to dukat, weyoun, garak. You can see Avery brooks really come to life on the few outings where they do something different than just "constantly irritated bureaucrat."

what i can't even

Sisko is not bland that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

That said, Dukat, Weyoun, and Garak are fucking amazing.

I've enthused about the DS9 relaunch novels before on this thread, but they provide some great insight into Garak's character that is making our rewatch of the series even more delightful.

Dukat is just such a perfect balance of charming, smarmy, and utter sociopath.

that time sisko went undercover as a Klingon, there was this look in the actor's eyes like "finally I get to do something fun!"
there's a line later where he goes "I'll miss those fangs" -- I think that's brooks talking, not just sisko