POLL YR. IDOLS: The official SONIC YOUTH RESULTS thread!

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As long as my votes count for the real thing all the side stuff is gravy!

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 11 May 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link

Are there SY members on that Pussy Galore EP?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

Bob Bert

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 11 May 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/yWLqzbl.jpg

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link

lol/poor Steve

scintilla (seandalai), Saturday, 11 May 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link

Goddamnit, why don't I check that stuff BEFORE I throw it only? Moderator, please remove that first image!

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/bvoFwNB.jpg

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

haha

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/poHIxrd.jpg

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

(and I really hope that that's Jim...)

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

Lol some dude = good dude.

Couldnt vote in the favorite member poll, just didnt feel right but Steve is def one of the great rock drummers of the last 25 years

Drugs A. Money, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link

i voted for steve and my name is not william, i demand a recount

seanpennderizer (some dude), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link

ha oh n/m i had only looked at the first img

seanpennderizer (some dude), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/QTELgw4.jpg

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

ha, nice reveal. Thank goodness some dude's vote for Steve is saving us from an awkward Stalinized band photo. (Unless I dunno Jim Sclavunos ousts Kim.)

ohmigud (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/2uEyZNI.jpg

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

Wow, I remember in the 90s, Lee was often the fans' choice. Seems like it's still the case.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link

Are people able to distinguish Thurston's and Lee's playing on the albums? I assume that most of the more traditionally melodic lead parts are Lee but otherwise, I can never tell by listening. Not like listening to, I dunno Clapton and Allman or Metheny/Scofield.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

Phh. I shouldn't say this here but I struggle to distinguish between their voices sometimes.

kraudive, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link

I always thought Lee had the noisy parts!

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

Speaking of Lee:
http://i.imgur.com/vXaGuhI.jpg

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

I always thought Lee had the noisy parts!

They both do plenty of noisy parts, though. Some of the most 'out' stuff is Lee, you're right, e.g. the 'antennabox' on "Antenna" or the prepared guitar on "She's in a Bad Mood". But Thurston also did prepared guitar on the first two albums and played the guitar with a drumstick (iirc?) on "Burning Spear". In any live stuff I've seen, they both do plenty of the Hendrix-style feedback. I thought most of the parts that sound like 'normal' rock lead guitar solos were Lee though? The "Pacific Coast Highway" solo is him, right? "Purr" sounds like it's split up. Even that's not too reliable, though: doesn't Thurston play the solo on "Washing Machine"?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link

Thurston has some pretty distinctive strumming rhythms that make his stuff stick out pretty often, a lot of time in those riffy sections Lee has more of the 'lead' lines. but there have definitely been times when i visualize one or the other playing particular parts, but then i see them play the song live and i had it totally backwards.

seanpennderizer (some dude), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link

You guys don't deserve Steve.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

The lead guitar parts on "Chapel Hill": those are Lee?

xpost Fripp/Belew on 80s KC is another example where it's really easy to distinguish the guitarists.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

the huge gap in votes between thurston and kim is pretty funny, wonder what it would've looked like before that elle interview ran

seanpennderizer (some dude), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

You guys don't deserve Steve.

Even you didn't vote for him!

I didn't vote for a favourite band member btw. I almost never have a favourite member of a band, most especially with a band like this where the ensemble playing is so much the point (to the point where we have trouble identifying which guitarist is playing what).

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link

I didn't vote, I did a list but I am a little too shy.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

I voted in this poll, like the band, have most of their records...but I find Thurston & Kim insufferable. anytime I read anything that those said, or hear them talk, I want to throw their records in the trash.

Euler, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link

honestly i don't think any list of best SY album covers shouldn't include Washing Machine

― seanpennderizer (some dude), Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:39 AM (9 hours ago)

Sadly, it received just one vote, just like A Thousand Leaves, Confusion Is Sex, Goodbye 20th Century, Sonic Nurse and The Whitey Album

― ArchCarrier, Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:41 AM (9 hours ago)

all of which are less ugly than all of the 2nd and 3rd place finishers, w/the possible exception of bad moon rising.

(lol, just noticed some dude's handle)

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

Seriously? I don't at all see the appeal of the Washing Machine and ATL covers.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Cm4HUkG.png

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51GA9bBKSpL.jpg
10. Dirty
(25 points, 7 votes)

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link

washing machine cover is clean, simple & rather clever, imo.

ATL cover is awfully a bit heavy-handed, but well-designed, texturally interesting. plus i like marnie weber.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link

http://991.com/NewGallery/Sonic-Youth-Confusion-Is-Sex-277107.jpg
9. Confusion Is Sex
(26 points, 8 votes)

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

^ my favorite SY cover, that and sav's "death valley 69" drawing

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link

(we are counting down ALBUMS now, not COVERS :)

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link

http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/sonicyouth_record.jpg
8. Washing Machine
(27 points, 9 votes)

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/019/238/0001923899_500.jpg
7. Sonic Nurse
(29 points, 12 votes)

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link

Steve is my second favourite band member, if that helps him sleep at night.

the so-called socialista (dowd), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link

http://criticalmassesmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/badmooncover.jpeg
6. Bad Moon Rising
(33 points, 10 votes)

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

too low.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link

http://www.drawuslines.com/wp-content/themes/tma/images/bg/Murray-Street.jpg
5. Murray Street
(34 points, 13 votes)

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link

too low

Euler, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link

figure goo's up next?

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link

Nope.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6qkdbcy2N1rxa0n6o1_500.jpg
4. A Thousand Leaves
(35 points, 12 votes)

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link

dang! slap me silly. okay w this though.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

Goo is right where it belongs, at 11 or 12.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

yup. it's my least favourite of their albums.

the so-called socialista (dowd), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

Huh. Surprised at A Thousand Leaves placing so high.

kraudive, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link

yeah as the poll went on i was like "Diamond Sea doesn't need to be in the top 10 but i can understand it" to "hmm wow top 5" to "top two? get the fuck outta here"

yeeznuts (some dude), Monday, 20 May 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link

Disintegration Notice?

ILE Wet Treeship Night (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 20 May 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link

i didn't think i was going to make diamond sea my number one but for some reason it felt right, possibly because i can't help but hear these ballots as setlists and #1's a closer

da croupier, Monday, 20 May 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

Missed the grand finale as well, but caught up to the thread and love how it turned out, especially since "fan faves" like Cotton Crown and PCH and Theresa's Sound World all cracked the top 20. Always felt Theresa was a classic from the first time I heard it, glad to see others feel similarly. It really benefits from the sleek production, in the same measure that Inhuman works with its swampy, humid production. I've rated that as my #1 for years, it'll never change. It totally sounds like steam rising off of an overworked mesh of gears to me. I think I read somewhere that someone spilled a can of Coke on the masters for Confusion is Sex, and ever since then I've loved hearing it all as a rotten, sticky mess. Certainly my fave LP of theirs by a mile. Happy to see Lee is Free almost make the top 100!

inhuman
hyperstation
the diamond sea
schizophrenia
total trash
she's in a bad mood
i love her all the time
the sprawl
lee is free
pch
brother james
protect me you
shadow of a doubt
titanium expose
madonna sean and me (aka expressway to yr skull)
eliminator jr
i dreamed i dream
the world looks red
cotton crown
society is a hole
the bedroom (aka the destroyed room)
providence
beauty lies in the eye
teen age riot
sugar kane
macbeth
jc
sweet shine
theresa's sound world
tunic

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Monday, 20 May 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

I completely agree with contenderizer about the first half of "Mote". The noisy instrumental section, however, never really seems to go anywhere and doesn't justify its length for me (and I'm a "Diamond Sea" fan). However, this is almost reversed in that live version! Ranaldo either didn't pull off or changed the melody, which was a big part of the song's appeal. However, that noise interlude is fantastic, with real motion, and segues so effortlessly into "New Hampshire". And the version of "New Hampshire" is great! They really work that coda. Such tight players by that point. Know where that clip is from?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 May 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, Lee's vocals are a little shaky, but I find the music all around great (and yeah, the segue specifically is really tight). I do not know where the show is, but there are at least a few other clips from it on Youtube. It is dated, so you can go onto the SY site and find the archive for the show I imagine.

grandavis, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link

On the rare occasions Lee sang two songs back to back, it was usually "Mote" segueing into "Hoarfrost," which was awesome

yeeznuts (some dude), Monday, 20 May 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

Shit, sorry, thought it was dated but was wrong. Seems like they opened with Pacific Coast Highway, so that might help. Here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f_bb7iVfak&NR=1&feature=endscreen

grandavis, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link

Shit again. That video was already posted upthread (maybe even by you ....)

grandavis, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

Disintegration Notice?

huh! Yeah. Hadn't noticed that - I'm pretty sure my first place vote was picked up correctly despite my lack of care.

kraudive, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

Seems like that show is 08/04/04 -- Montreal, PQ @ Metropolis, as it is the only show from 2004 where they do a "Mote-->New Hampshire" and a "Pacific Coast Highway" where they would have come from offstage and gone right into it (it was an encore, not an opener).

Set list:

I Love You Golden Blue
Empty Page
Pattern Recognition
Unmade Bed
Paper Cup Exit
Bull in the Heather
Stones
Mariah Carey
Mote
New Hampshire
Dude Ranch Nurse
Brother James
--
PCH
Sugar Kane
--
Making the Nature Scene

grandavis, Monday, 20 May 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

The 08/04 was inside, at the Metropolis. It was my very first show!

Van Horn Street, Monday, 20 May 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link

oh yeah heres my list of traxx:

01 death valley '69
02 shadow of a doubt
03 schizophrenia
04 diamond sea
05 theresa's sound-world
06 society is a hole
07 pacific coast highway
08 karen revisited
09 personality crisis
10 expressway to yr skull
11 addicted to love
12 bull in the heather
13 kill yr idols
14 100%
15 karen koltrane
16 candle
17 eric's trip
18 rain on tin
19 tv shit EP
20 unmade bed
21 dirty boots
22 kool thing
23 becuz
24 two cool rock chix listening to neu

Lamp, Monday, 20 May 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link

just had a look what i had in common in my ballot with everyone else:
- closest was da croupier with 12 songs
- furthest was raymond cummings with 2 songs

whatever that means...

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 20 May 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link

Lamp has like 30% the same ballot as me! ::hugglez::

yeeznuts (some dude), Monday, 20 May 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link

Where's Glenn when you need him?

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 20 May 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

A mall store close by has had some SY CDs on the wall for $4.99; bought NYC Ghosts & Flowers and Murray Street, which I've never had, and also A Thousand Leaves--I bought that on vinyl a few years ago, but vinyl at home tends to be background for me these days, and I don't really listen attentively to something new unless it's in the car. So I've essentially been listening to A Thousand Leaves for the first time too.

Two songs I would have had on my ballot for sure: "Free City Rhymes" and "Wildflower Soul." I've played the latter six or seven times the last couple of days--perfect driving music. I wish it were 20 minutes long instead of nine.

clemenza, Saturday, 29 June 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, "Free City Rhymes" is really great. That was my #12.

This poll got me interested in reading David Browne's book Goodbye 20th Century. I think it's great, much better than Foege's earlier book. Interesting to read that as per the discussion on this thread, it really was a deliberate move for them to get sloppy with the albums after Dirty and before O'Rourke, intentionally e.g. recording things in just one take, influenced by bands like Pavement. Also to read about them (or people close to them?) acknowledging that their ambivalence about pursuing fame and mainstream success meant that they never really pursued those things wholeheartedly.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 June 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link

Also enjoyed the discussions about their legendary thriftiness.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 June 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

love that book.

sund4r, I only got your webmail about that show in the last week. During the next week I should be able to email you and get that together.

sleeve, Saturday, 29 June 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

Play this, hit mute (something brilliant, but do it anyway), and play either "Wildflower Soul" or "Kotton Krown" overtop. Sublime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exFokKr-WEg

clemenza, Saturday, 29 June 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

The Body/Head album is VICIOUS

Esp the third track, damn. It's the flip of Kim's recent interviews, claws out

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link

This whole album slays

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...
two years pass...

I updated my list

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 March 2017 05:37 (seven years ago) link

Winner's Blues at #7 is something you don't see every day.
And only one Lee song? That's madness.

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 5 March 2017 07:34 (seven years ago) link


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