Primal Scream.

curious about bobby's pose, considering he and momus share some history.

yeah good point. i guess it is probably some kind of homage.

probably some kind of pwnage

Is, or is not, the new Scream single a cover of the theme tune to whimsical septuagenarian BBC detective series New Tricks?

Bobby and Momus toured Germany together in 1987. In Hamburg an art student called Helga Knipp laid them both on the same night, donning a blonde wig to bed Bobby and a Japanese bob to snare Momus. The next morning the singers complained at the breakfast buffet of an itching in the genital region. Both then went AWOL, forcing the tour manager to consider continuing the tour without them, substituting dreary indie-rock instrumentals for Primal Scream sets and clever conceptual silence for Momus.

"Crush" the tour manager decided to scour Hamburg for the two singers. He found them late that night, posing for Helga in Elbpark, where the trees were just coming into flower. Using a special "devil's horn" pose she'd developed at Hamburg Art School, a powerful flashgun, blossom, and shooting on special infra-red medical film used for autopsies, Helga gave both vocalists a startling new look which would shoot them to stardom. Momus used his the very next year for his Mercury Prize-winning album Tender Pervert, but Bobby's got lost in the post and wasn't delivered until 2013.

Desperately bored while waiting for his photo and his fame to arrive - a jealous junkie recluse with screaming tinnitus and a bad case of VD - Bobby whiled away his wilderness years posting to ILX under the name "Momus".

Boab: "Ye whit? Whit ye fuckin' oan aboot, ya fuckin' walloper? Momus? Ye mean that bawbag fae Paisley wi' the fuckin' patch oeer his eyeba'? Aw naw, talk o' the devil, here he comes."

Momus: "The dehvil? What about him?"

Boab: "Naw, the devil."

Momus: "Aye, that's whit ah said. Listen Rab, can a borrow a peencil aff ye?"

Boab: "A whit?

Momus: "Ah've goat an essay full o' big fuck off words tae hand in.... nah, ah'm joshin' ye, man , ah've actually goat a bookie's line tae fill in and ah've loast mah wee bookie's pen, so how's about that peencil?"

Boab: "Ah'll gie ye a fuckin' 'peencil' awright, right in yer other fuckin' eye!"

Momus: "Come oan Rab, fer auld time's sake! It must be all o' seeventeen years since we last met."

Boab: "How come you cannae talk properly?"

Momus: "Remember Hamburg?"

Boab: "Never been there, mate."

Momus: "Course ye huv!"

Boab: "Gonny leave me alaine?"

Momus: "Aye, fair takes me back, remember that bird, Helga?"

Boab: "Whit bird? Listen if you don't get oot ma face ye'll be usin' yer broken fingers tae pick yer teeth up aff the flerr!"

Momus: "The flair."

Boab: "The flerr."

Momus: "The flair."

Boab: "The flerr."

Momus: "The flair."

Boab: "The flerr."

Momus: "Rab, did you know that on the web, everyone will be famous to fifteen people."

Boab: "BEAT IT, YA WANK!"

lols all around

tbh "XTRMNTR" is one of the greatest albums of all time, much better than "Screamadelica", and it's not a "you had to be there" moment, and it's a much better follow up to "Loveless" than "m b v" was

i'll listen to it today stevie.

\(^o^)/

plz report back

can confirm that exterminator rules

yeah i have no time for screamadelica or most of primal scream's work apart from 'velocity girl,' and i love XTRMNTR. top 10 of the decade for me easy.

Screamadelica was a botched album... all the wrong mixes went on in the wrong order and it was at least a year after the fact. XTRMNTR was amazing when it came out and remains so.

50% cosign. XTRMNTR is awesome classic, but I still like Screamadelica a lot.

Very very underwhelmed at the time by Screamadelica. Loved XTRMNTR at the time & occasional listens confirm its marvellousness. I have listened to nothing else by Primal Scream. Should I bother?

Vanishing Point is the only other album you need to hear. I actually prefer it to XTRMNTR, mainly because of how amazing Burning Wheel and Kowalski are.

I don't think they've ever made a masterpiece. Their three best albums all have flaws. Screamadelica has Movin' on up and Loaded which I never need to hear again in my life, Vanishing Point has Star and Medication which are retro bullshit and XTRMNTR features Bobby rapping.

You got to be kidding me, Pills is one of my favourites on the album. If you think of it as the rambling paranoid interior monologue of a guy who's been running on pills for four days without sleep. I think it's absolutely brilliant, the album as a whole is SUCH a masterpiece to me. I know Bobby talks a lot of shite but the flashes of brilliance make up for it tenfold.

I haf listened to this new album and it is quite good.

I know it's all opinion but I'm pretty sure in this instance it's factually correct to say that Bobby Gillespie couldn't rap his way out of a damp paper bag.

You got to be kidding me, Pills is one of my favourites on the album. If you think of it as the rambling paranoid interior monologue of a guy who's been running on pills for four days without sleep. I think it's absolutely brilliant, the album as a whole is SUCH a masterpiece to me. I know Bobby talks a lot of shite but the flashes of brilliance make up for it tenfold.

― MatthewK

Sorry I find his rapping totally embarrassing. "The truth about you, you never been true" I just don't know how anyone can take that seriously.

You don't have to take it seriously to enjoy it.

I kind of want to buy the new album.

The thing is it sounds to me Bobby was being serious when he was doing that rap, like he really wants us to "Tell the truth" but it just sounds bad and I cringe every time I hear it. I do like the album a lot but that song is just a big misstep.

I have to agree. He does it again on Culturecide, which is the only disaster on the new album. I interviewed Gillespie at his manager's house just before XTRMNTR came out and he put the album on and rapped along to Pills. That was awkward.

Pills has honestly never bothered me! The bit where he just gives up and swears over and over and over is awesome.

Anyway, I'm listening to the new one on *gulp* Spotify and it's alright, isn't it? I'm enjoying quite a lot of it. I didn't even give Beautiful Future then dignity of a single listen, and the CD of Riot City Blues got defenestrated, it was that bad.

I just reading reviews of their albums the other day and came across your Riot City Blues one on Stylus, it actually made me want to hear it. I remember quite liking the single from Beautiful Future but never bothered with it even though when Virgin/Zavi was closing they had hundreds of copies selling for a couple of pounds.

Ha! I got the plural of poets laureate wrong in that. Shocking.

Riot City Blues is daft pastiche but harmless - Country Girl and When the Bomb Drops are both keepers. The only worthwhile things from BF are the Fleetwood Mac cover and Weatherall's remix of Uptown. After those two and the patchy Evil Heat the new one is better than anyone could have expected - David Holmes's production is terrific.

I found the production / sound on RCB awful and offensive, but it's a Youth job, from when I was at the height of my crusade, and he's a butcher.

I'm kind of astonished at how good More Light is on second listen. It's not amazing, or anything, but it is just really, really good, all the way through.

I got as far as the phrase "final solution to teenage revolution" and just felt too embarrassed to continue.

Suspension of disbelief Matt

Echo Dek is their best. I'm still trying to find other music that sounds like that and having trouble.

I've paid zero attention to lyrics.

Echo Dek is their best. I'm still trying to find other music that sounds like that and having trouble.

a bunch of the other b-sides/remixes from the period are in the same general ballpark

I've really been enjoying More Light, Even inspired me to go back and give their previous two another go, and both have some good cuts, just not as consistent as the new one.

Evil Heat had some decent moments, a little too overly maligned at the time after Exterminator was good.

Never listened to Echo Dek much, Vanishing Point / Exterminator are probably my faves with Screamadelica after.

so, just found out re the extra disc version.

is it worth it ?

What's on the extra disc?

well, according to amazon :

Disc: 2
1. Nothing Is Real / Nothing Is Unreal
2. Requiem For The Russian Tea Rooms
3. Running Out Of Time
4. Worm Tamer
5. Theme From More Light
6. 2013 (Weatherall Remix)

tempted by the weatherall remix alone to be honest ...

What we used to call 'b-sides' then, I guess.

oooh .. and there is this free live ep via amazon :

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CAA2I1W/ref=dm_ty_trk

ooh it is FREE

Weatherall's Uptown remix was so good your instinct might be right m. e

Worm Tamer

ooh the spice must flow eh

saw the cover of this half an hour ago, just stopped laughing

Blame Momus.

re Disc: 2

1. Nothing Is Real / Nothing Is Unreal << great 5 minute krautrock + horns groove song. love it.

2. Requiem For The Russian Tea Rooms << instrumental. sounds like a dark descendant of roy budd. good stuff.

3. Running Out Of Time << more honking sax, lone bass groove + hard left placed echoed vocals .. before flute action and wah wah guitars join in. brilliant.

4. Worm Tamer << nick cave cover. vocals placed on the left side again (same session as previous track ?). slide guitar loop. 5 minutes of layered sonics, harmonica, before kicking in with some fantastically ott guitar noise.

5. Theme From More Light << more slide guitar and atmospherics, more in line with a ry cooder soundtrack. a throwaway couple of minutes, but adds nicely to the flow of this extra disc (i.e. its not just a chunk of disconnected remixes)

6. 2013 (Weatherall Remix) << over 8 minutes of sci-fi kraut-dub excess. the thin drums + deep bass with the tremolo'd vocals before the momentary widescreen production synth/guitar kicks in at 3 minutes. more sax @ 6 minutes. overall the track is a spooked out, lo-fi variation, giving it a pre-virgin era cabaret voltaire feel. really good.

overall : really glad i picked up the 2cd edition.