HANNIBAL on NBC seems amazing and therefore deserves it's own thread!

you guys are kinda crazy. i watched last night's episode because of the praise you guys were giving it... it's... well, it looks good at least, though story-wise it's kind of the worst of Dexter?

the worst of Dexter? jesus, how much Dexter did you watch?

tbf i did stop before season 6

i hear it went off the rails even more around the time Colin Hanks showed up

when jack meets hannibal

i've watched the first 2 eps and I'm def down with this!

I wasn't feeling Mads as Hannibal in ep 1 but I'm coming around to him in ep 2. at first he felt too cold? he wasn't calm/sincere/polite enough. but that's turning a corner now, he feels a bit more at ease. not relaxed, just calm. the only way the show really works is if he gets Hannibal right.

i love Dancy's Graham. the mannerisms really impress me, he feels so volatile and overwhelmed with restraint/control, those eyelid flickers and stammers, it all tracks.

dunno about Fishburne's crawford, he's kind of more ebullient and generally emotional than I would want him to be. but i guess I could grow to like his interpretation, since I do like old Fishy anyway.

the supporting cast are good so far! freddie's nice and squirrelly, she's well cast.

overall I am in love with how well it's shot, and how it still feels like a deliberate nod to Harris, like they haven't gone completely off the reservation with a loose 'based on' thing which is what I was worried about. feels like the people who wrote this are Harris nerds too, and that placates me a lot. Love the way they mix the procedure and quiet calm and brutality, they are doing a great job with that. and the way the music cues only come in at certain time, they're not overwhelming it with music but letting the quiet work too

UGH yes I'm super into it.

'don't get me wrong, i was in a fraternity, i've "tried" things…'

gah!! hulu just showed me a commercial for the upcoming episode that spoilered the one i was in the middle of!

!

One of many reasons why Hulu is the asshole

(Not least of which is its chintzy 'oh sorry you can't run adblock software.' No, you fucker, I AM running it, so why am I even bothering with you.)

i remember loving hulu so much when it first started and was totally fine w/ watching ads, etc., but they can't even match the level of service they provided in 2008. now i just use netflix or (increasingly) just watch old episodes of moonlighting on youtube.

hey what am i gonna do watch tv on tv

omg some of the details in this show

Hannibal's coffee maker in Ep # 3 -- Vacuum Syphon by Royal Coffee Maker <3

http://royalcoffeemaker.com.previewc40.carrierzone.com/newstore/images/products/preview/vccc005.jpg

never again will I complain about cleaning my coffeemaker

"i need you to assess the situation here, doctor."

"he was removing his kidney. poorly."

i may never watch this show but LOOK at this amazing korean promo spot for it: http://psychoanalyzeme.tumblr.com/post/50249979182/holy-shit-korea-i-love-you-a-lot-all-you-need-to

even just the way the voiceover says 'hannibal' is a treat

you guys are kinda crazy. i watched last night's episode because of the praise you guys were giving it... it's... well, it looks good at least, though story-wise it's kind of the worst of Dexter?

― Nhex, Friday, 10 May 2013 16:44 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Uh, not really? It would've been all too easy to make Hannibal in the Dexter mould, as the weekly adventures of another wacky serial-killing vigilante, but this is not that show(thank goodness). Something the AV Club reviewer pointed out stuck with me, that there's a gravity to the way this series treats murder, which to my mind is the antithesis of Dexter's flippant approach to killing. While Hannibal is not without an(extremely mordant) sense of humour, it's almost refreshing how "serious" it feels.

Another important difference between the two shows is that Hannibal doesn't rely on it's supporting cast being utterly incompetent morons in order to maintain the status quo. I'm pretty sure it's not going to take six seasons for Will to suss out that Dr Lecter is not entirely normal.

otm

I have cheated the last couple weeks and downloaded this show right before it shows here, since it's showing in Europe a day earlier

Gillian Anderson is so cool

I just bought a used copy of Red Dragon on Amazon --- I am jonesing for a reread now.

I want to rewatch MANHUNTER sometime

ooh good call

I think I can appreciate it now just as a Mann joint and not get as bunged-up as I used to about how it was all wrong lol

can I just say: holy shitballs is Gillian Anderson incredible. So glad they finally gave her a decent hairstyle. GodDAMN gurl

we got to see Hannibal stone-cold killing onscreen, and finally the dynamic between him and other killers is starting to get rolling

Just started watching. didn't know this was a Bryan Fuller show! Would've watched right from the beginning if i had known. kind of the perfect guy for this, since all of his shows are obsessed with death and food.

On ep 4, this is excellent horror TV and Mikkelsen esp is great, but not sure I'm quite bowled over by it yet. It's not a completely humourless show, but there's something kind of oppressive about its seriousness - Fuller's shows have always treated death seriously (even on the saccharine Pushing Daisies), but they were usually good at finding the (very dark) comedy in it too. The constant ambient drone in the background isn't helping.

this newest episode ramps things up quite a bit, it's starting to get a bit of a groove.

i kinda like the seriousness, it sets it apart from other tv for me.

and my god the way they shoot the food prepation, and the food in general is gorgeous. even when he's slicing up offal it's kinda grotesquely beautiful.

it's so dry, but it's becoming a bit less so

I love the hell out of the drones and audio cues

http://25.media.tumblr.com/9b4aa8e4a1dfef1e3725e85a2b401778/tumblr_mmync1nHi21qamy2yo1_400.gif

lool

#moves like slasher

vg, did you ever watch Pushing Daisies? the pies always made me hungry.

re the drones: maybe it's because I've now watched five episodes in a row - the portentousness got a bit exhausting.

yeah I did watch Pushing Daisies! for a while...I ended up dipping out after a while because it started to feel samey.

but yeah the composition and art direction and the overall look is so precise and immaculate. he has good people with him, clearly

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/jose-andres-hannibal_n_1875393.html

background drones are 5% of the reason i watch ANY tv show

oh!!! jose andres is doing all this? oh fuck that's awesome

The use of Iron Butterfly in Manhunter in the deranged finale is really awesome and oddly out of step with Mann's usual type of soundtracking. Love that film.

lol theremin

that (not a theremin) was one of the most amazing sounds ever to come out of my tv

Despite what I said before, I did find the death of Franklin quite amusing. That scene of him attempting to psychoanalyse Tobias was so hilariously awkward that it was actually a relief when he got the ol' neck twist. I'm pretty sure Hannibal just wanted to stop him embarrassing himself any further

Also, my favourite line of the series so far: "I didn't poison you, Tobias. I wouldn't do that to the food."

oddly 'scandal' was more vicious and bloody this week than 'hannibal'

do censors even work for tv networks anymore?

Violence is fine, it's sex they have a problem with.

Hannibal killed Tobias in self defense but I don't get why he killed Franklin? He seems like he's made a lot of poor decisions lately.

i've seen people argue that it was either a comedy death (couldn't stand listening to franklin's psycho-babble anymore, also apparently this is a callback to something in the book series?), or that he knew tobias was going to kill franklin or reveal hannibal's secret to franklin, so getting him out of the way was going to need to happen either way. what i don't understand is what he was trying to accomplish by sending will straight to tobias, endangering his life, in the midst of all his talk of a potential friendship/looking genuinely relieved when will turned up alive at the end.

Hannibal had already told Tobias not to kill Franklin. I think he was sparing Franklin from death at the hands of Tobias, who would have wanted to put on a show for Hannibal; it also immediately gives him the upper hand over Tobias. And I think you're otm, that it also afforded him the expedience of sparing Franklin from finding out the the truth about Hannibal.

still don't know what hannibal's secret was that tobias said he knew. now that tobias is dead i guess we'll never find out :-(