The National - Trouble Will Find Me

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finally heard this all the way through; was all ready to yell about the length and yet, i guess bc of how well they sustain the mood, it feels shorter than it is

"pink rabbits" is tremendous

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 May 2013 01:11 (six years ago) link

when we finally meet you can buy me a pink rabbit and we can determine whether it produces effects and scenarios like Berninger describes.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2013 01:18 (six years ago) link

Speaking of which, does that refer to this beer? Hadn't heard of it before.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 10 May 2013 12:47 (six years ago) link

that sounds revolting

Number None, Friday, 10 May 2013 12:53 (six years ago) link

Can't picture Berninger drinking such a thing.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 10 May 2013 12:55 (six years ago) link

re drummers felt this was about tindersticks. they had an amazing drummer. and then they didn't, and their music stopped being very good.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 May 2013 15:09 (six years ago) link

well the drummer came back and they reformed as 'the national' have you checked them out?

乒乓, Friday, 10 May 2013 15:09 (six years ago) link

felt this way

cover of this album has that "by virtue of the hype and the market this record should be a Big Record with a Big Concept but we don't know what it is so we're just going to give you this kind of bombastic minimalist cover image to ponder" thing

see also coldplay and a lot of other british bands

i'm trying to not let that aspect of it spoil my enjoyment

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 May 2013 15:11 (six years ago) link

well it's someone trapped in a mirror which to be fair is what most national songs are about

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 May 2013 17:13 (six years ago) link

?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 May 2013 17:44 (six years ago) link

"i need my girl" is devastating

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 10 May 2013 17:45 (six years ago) link

that arpeggio?

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2013 17:47 (six years ago) link

?

idk feel like a lot of national songs are like a fall of details + feeling extremely lost in self-reflection

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 May 2013 17:50 (six years ago) link

im goin thru the glass again/come and find me
god loves everybody/don't remind me

johnny crunch, Friday, 10 May 2013 18:25 (six years ago) link

yeah it's one of their catchiest little guitar riffs in a minute, al

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 10 May 2013 18:54 (six years ago) link

on a scale of one to ten how depressing is this?

markers, Friday, 10 May 2013 19:04 (six years ago) link

Brad Nelso otm

whiskey and ice cream sandwiches (Treeship), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:06 (six years ago) link

Brad Nelso

this is your new name

markers, Friday, 10 May 2013 19:08 (six years ago) link

easier to type

markers, Friday, 10 May 2013 19:08 (six years ago) link

when i walk into a room
i do not light it up.

fuck.

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:50 (six years ago) link

remember when you lost your shit and drove the car into the garden?
you got out and said “i’m sorry” to the vines and no one saw it.

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:50 (six years ago) link

yeah this album is a return to a heavier focus on lyrics (verses at least) compared to HOOKS ONLY m.o. of high violet

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:54 (six years ago) link

that might explain my reluctance

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2013 20:52 (six years ago) link

it's okay to be sad, alfred

乒乓, Friday, 10 May 2013 21:46 (six years ago) link

don't turn into the lex on me here.

乒乓, Friday, 10 May 2013 21:46 (six years ago) link

I'd trim this a bit - "Don't Swallow the Cap," "Humiliation" and "Slipped" don't add much, at least based on the first few listens.

Simon H., Friday, 10 May 2013 21:51 (six years ago) link

ahhh i really like humilation and slipped

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 10 May 2013 21:56 (six years ago) link

yeah this album is a return to a heavier focus on lyrics (verses at least) compared to HOOKS ONLY m.o. of high violet

― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, May 10, 2013 3:54 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

feel like HV had barely any hooks :/

乒乓, Friday, 10 May 2013 22:16 (six years ago) link

Hmmm... Listened to the new one seven times now... And even though I really love it's mood, I somehow do miss the immediacy and, indeed, the "hooks", of High Violet.

I love the singular mood on the new record, as it is very focused on a particular sadness/subdued vibe. But I just switched to High Violet and noticed I do relish the "urgency" on that record, that seems to be lacking on the new album.

Something about the track order that does not really appeals to me on the new one. It is quite bland? I still stand by my earlier remarks, that I love the focus on the new one. But after playing it seven times, the switch to High Violet seems like a pretty big step backwards? I miss the dynamics, most of all.

I will have to hold out on a definitive judgement...

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 11 May 2013 01:48 (six years ago) link

There seem to be no standouts on this new album. I have songs I prefer, but there aren't any 'Sorrows''s, 'Lemonworld's' or 'Englands''s...

Conflicted.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 11 May 2013 01:57 (six years ago) link

i really love sad music, might be my favorite type of music. the Cure being my number one and the Boo Radleys being my number two. after reading this thread i'm really, really looking forward to hearing this new album. not even going to listen to this leak and will buy it. nice, coming in out in just over a week.

Bee OK, Saturday, 11 May 2013 02:43 (six years ago) link

That's a great top two bands Bee!

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 11 May 2013 02:46 (six years ago) link

Does someone not like England?! Wow.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 11 May 2013 05:34 (six years ago) link

thanks Kitchen Person.

Bee OK, Sunday, 12 May 2013 05:52 (six years ago) link

cover of this album has that "by virtue of the hype and the market this record should be a Big Record with a Big Concept but we don't know what it is so we're just going to give you this kind of bombastic minimalist cover image to ponder" thing

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, May 10, 2013 11:11 AM (4 days ago)

Good thread idea.

Evan, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 19:44 (six years ago) link

^right

Evan, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 19:47 (six years ago) link

yeah all those hypgnosis (sp?) covers are definitely the major source point for this

u2 and coldplay are basically the paragons of this, since their lyrics being mostly meaningless bombast is at the heart of both of their aesthetics

but yeah new thread i think

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:40 (six years ago) link

I don't like "England," either.

I think I like my 10-track reshuffled edit of this new one quite a bit, though I do think next time around they might consider bringing in an outside producer to mess with their sound a bit.

Simon H., Wednesday, 15 May 2013 01:30 (six years ago) link

I never made one, did you? Xpost

Evan, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 01:35 (six years ago) link

and if you want to see me cry then let it be or nevermind

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 17 May 2013 01:20 (six years ago) link

Pink Rabbits is my favorite. Slays me.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 18 May 2013 15:17 (six years ago) link

You didn't see me I was falling apart
I was a white girl in a crowd of white girls in the park
You didn't see me I was falling apart
I was a television version of a person with a broken heart

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 May 2013 18:13 (six years ago) link

Loving this album more with every spin. It's so harmonious and singular in the feeling it wants to channel.

Only 'Heavenfaced', the sixth song, I just cannot listen to, because of my allergy to all things U2, and it really comes too close to being U2. Other than that, fantastic album.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 19 May 2013 17:29 (six years ago) link

Pink Rabbits: Morrissey reference alert ("Bona Drag was still on")

nagl dude dude dude (ledge), Monday, 20 May 2013 14:56 (six years ago) link

hahaha, they posted a link to Target on their Facebook, who will have it on sale for $8.99 tomorrow. Reminds me of back in the 90s when Best Buy started carry 4AD CDs for crazy loss leader prices and I bought just about everything available.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 20 May 2013 18:31 (six years ago) link

Is the lack of discussion about this new release in any way a passive aggressive kinda thing??

greenbeens, Thursday, 23 May 2013 23:16 (six years ago) link


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