HANNIBAL on NBC seems amazing and therefore deserves it's own thread!

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this show is invidious plodding garbage, mikkelsen's charisma alone does not equal having the wit to pull off csi magicaltortureporn

r|t|c, Thursday, 9 May 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

wait is hannibal supposed to be a bad guy or something? no fair spoilers from people who read the books

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Thursday, 9 May 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link

xpost oh yay lord of darkness is here

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 May 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

like he seems like a pretty together guy so far. glad he's there for will and abigail to lean on.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Thursday, 9 May 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link

xp i am a part of you all

r|t|c, Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link

Did you miss the part where he gave the serial killer a heads-up phone call?? Xp

just1n3, Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

There is no torture porn in Hannibal, some bloody horrible human organ food pornography though. If you are willing to forgo some of the psychobabble and ride along with it is an enjoyable series. I don't know what expectations some folk itt have watching an NBC series but this one has so far exceeded mine.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

one thing I'm digging about the show is the gesture toward gender parity. even though alanna, freddie, and the forensics lady aren't quite as central as hannibal, will, and jack, the female guest stars have been great (gina torres especially). and gillian anderson tonight yesssssss

a sentimental knife (reddening), Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

the chick playing lounds is great

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link

i think the relational setup between the characters is pretty complicated already - could easily be wasted but something good could come of it. one possibly benevolent manipulator/exploiter, one covert malevolent lead who is already infamous for the audience, a suffering 'good' in-show counterpart who everyone basically already treats openly like he's one step away from a serial killer, a morally flexible careerist who will probably end up being given kind of a thing for evil if she's not just the victim of her own incautiousness, the friendly/caring quantico woman, some mentoring-type stuff thrown off on both sides (lecter on his, fishburne on his), some investigative staff, even a dying wife already. and the characters around will are basically in collusion about him except that they're professional peers so that they and he can in some ways acknowledge that they're in collusion about him.

j., Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link

gillian anderson!!!?

j., Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

a d&d-style moral orientation setup would probably work well for this show

j., Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

hannibal isn't even the main character, why isn't the show named Will

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link

hannibal operates, will is probably just going to suffer a lot

j., Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

xxxposts yeah hannibal called that guy. seems like he's sort of a fuckup. i mean that's not very good investigative skills.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

wooopsie!

j., Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link

hannibal also slammed alanna's head against a wall so she wouldn't notice him and abigail going off to bury a dead body

a sentimental knife (reddening), Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link

yeah he's looking out for abigail, respect

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link

this last episode was good

r|t|c, Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link

have they been alternating the positioning of the names in the credit sequence?

j., Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link

clover cracking me up

balls, Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link

What a great cooking show

Did I mention Brian Reitzell's cool musical cues?

mh, Thursday, 9 May 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

jerry = will. elaine = alana. george = jack. hannibal = kramer.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Friday, 10 May 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link

gillian anderson AND ellen greene! amazing!

a sentimental knife (reddening), Friday, 10 May 2013 06:45 (ten years ago) link

I guess acclaim like this has made NBC a 5th-place network.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 May 2013 13:22 (ten years ago) link

you guys are kinda crazy. i watched last night's episode because of the praise you guys were giving it... it's... well, it looks good at least, though story-wise it's kind of the worst of Dexter?

Nhex, Friday, 10 May 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

the worst of Dexter? jesus, how much Dexter did you watch?

mh, Friday, 10 May 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

tbf i did stop before season 6

Nhex, Friday, 10 May 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link

i hear it went off the rails even more around the time Colin Hanks showed up

Nhex, Friday, 10 May 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link

when jack meets hannibal

slugbuggy, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

i've watched the first 2 eps and I'm def down with this!

I wasn't feeling Mads as Hannibal in ep 1 but I'm coming around to him in ep 2. at first he felt too cold? he wasn't calm/sincere/polite enough. but that's turning a corner now, he feels a bit more at ease. not relaxed, just calm. the only way the show really works is if he gets Hannibal right.

i love Dancy's Graham. the mannerisms really impress me, he feels so volatile and overwhelmed with restraint/control, those eyelid flickers and stammers, it all tracks.

dunno about Fishburne's crawford, he's kind of more ebullient and generally emotional than I would want him to be. but i guess I could grow to like his interpretation, since I do like old Fishy anyway.

the supporting cast are good so far! freddie's nice and squirrelly, she's well cast.

overall I am in love with how well it's shot, and how it still feels like a deliberate nod to Harris, like they haven't gone completely off the reservation with a loose 'based on' thing which is what I was worried about. feels like the people who wrote this are Harris nerds too, and that placates me a lot. Love the way they mix the procedure and quiet calm and brutality, they are doing a great job with that. and the way the music cues only come in at certain time, they're not overwhelming it with music but letting the quiet work too

UGH yes I'm super into it.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 May 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link

'don't get me wrong, i was in a fraternity, i've "tried" things…'

j., Sunday, 12 May 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link

gah!! hulu just showed me a commercial for the upcoming episode that spoilered the one i was in the middle of!

j., Sunday, 12 May 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link

!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 May 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link

One of many reasons why Hulu is the asshole

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 May 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link

(Not least of which is its chintzy 'oh sorry you can't run adblock software.' No, you fucker, I AM running it, so why am I even bothering with you.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 May 2013 02:29 (ten years ago) link

i remember loving hulu so much when it first started and was totally fine w/ watching ads, etc., but they can't even match the level of service they provided in 2008. now i just use netflix or (increasingly) just watch old episodes of moonlighting on youtube.

balls, Sunday, 12 May 2013 02:33 (ten years ago) link

hey what am i gonna do watch tv on tv

j., Sunday, 12 May 2013 02:39 (ten years ago) link

omg some of the details in this show

Hannibal's coffee maker in Ep # 3 -- Vacuum Syphon by Royal Coffee Maker <3

http://royalcoffeemaker.com.previewc40.carrierzone.com/newstore/images/products/preview/vccc005.jpg

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 May 2013 05:40 (ten years ago) link

never again will I complain about cleaning my coffeemaker

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 May 2013 05:40 (ten years ago) link

"i need you to assess the situation here, doctor."

"he was removing his kidney. poorly."

slugbuggy, Sunday, 12 May 2013 06:28 (ten years ago) link

i may never watch this show but LOOK at this amazing korean promo spot for it: http://psychoanalyzeme.tumblr.com/post/50249979182/holy-shit-korea-i-love-you-a-lot-all-you-need-to

✌_✌ (c sharp major), Sunday, 12 May 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link

even just the way the voiceover says 'hannibal' is a treat

✌_✌ (c sharp major), Sunday, 12 May 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

you guys are kinda crazy. i watched last night's episode because of the praise you guys were giving it... it's... well, it looks good at least, though story-wise it's kind of the worst of Dexter?

― Nhex, Friday, 10 May 2013 16:44 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Uh, not really? It would've been all too easy to make Hannibal in the Dexter mould, as the weekly adventures of another wacky serial-killing vigilante, but this is not that show(thank goodness). Something the AV Club reviewer pointed out stuck with me, that there's a gravity to the way this series treats murder, which to my mind is the antithesis of Dexter's flippant approach to killing. While Hannibal is not without an(extremely mordant) sense of humour, it's almost refreshing how "serious" it feels.

Another important difference between the two shows is that Hannibal doesn't rely on it's supporting cast being utterly incompetent morons in order to maintain the status quo. I'm pretty sure it's not going to take six seasons for Will to suss out that Dr Lecter is not entirely normal.

Pheeel, Sunday, 12 May 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 May 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link

I have cheated the last couple weeks and downloaded this show right before it shows here, since it's showing in Europe a day earlier

tweeship journey to 51 (mh), Friday, 17 May 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link

Gillian Anderson is so cool

tweeship journey to 51 (mh), Friday, 17 May 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link

I just bought a used copy of Red Dragon on Amazon --- I am jonesing for a reread now.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

I want to rewatch MANHUNTER sometime

tweeship journey to 51 (mh), Friday, 17 May 2013 01:55 (ten years ago) link

ooh good call

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link


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