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holy fuck @ everything about this group

this is really shaping up to be a phenomenal year for music

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link

I love this year

xp Matt, I think the first P4k feature like that was Bat for Lashes, but it didn't play with video like this does. I got so unsettled by the band staring at me that I couldn't concentrate on the text and had to read the lo-tech version instead.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link

Is everyone else able to read that feature OK? I couldn't read half of it in Chrome, tried it on Linux & Windows.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

I read it fine in Chrome on a 2 month old computer

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link

wow @ the p-fork article ...
thats impressive ...

mark e, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link

whoever mentioned east bay ray in relation to the guitar O T M. i half agree about this being almost comically boxed in by the period perfect postpunk costuming, but that later performance is astonishing. fuck yeah. reminds me a bit of his electro blue voice (italian band), but less heavy, noisy + psychedelic.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link

Great ambient music, in the sense of "It's definitely Siouxsie/East Bay Ray with further noises and therefore easy to have playing without worrying too much." (I assure you, a compliment.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link

streaming the album now; 1:40 into "Shut Up" and I have another new favorite band

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link

most things are worrisome

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link

And happily this is not!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link

I guess no surprise that SFJ is writing about them in the New Yorker (piece behind paywall)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

I streamed about half the album yesterday and liked it enough that I don't want to risk having my enjoyment ruined by reading whatever SFJ has to say. I will just buy it next week and listen to it for pleasure, like a normal person.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link

streaming the album now, damn good

here are a couple hebv tracks, in case anyone's curious. both from a few years back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnXdpbLQBUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzmUzelvmFk

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

I think I first heard them back in 1980.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link

with music this good i really don't care how it's packaged. great to finally be excited about a relatively new band.

Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

i like the album and live tracks quite a bit, but i'm still half on the fence. i mean, i've seen a lot of similar stuff come and go over the last 6 or 7 years without attracting this sort of attention tsunami. (look at me, i'm the lex.) then again, most didn't have the pop & human interest appeal, so no surprise i guess.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

Yes, love that the feted indie rock album of the year sounds like early 80s Siouxsie crossed with Throwing Muses.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 May 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link

Hmm, hadn't thought about the Muses in comparison.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 May 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link

Don't get the Muses comparison - they had way more more personality and always the capacity to tip into bubblegum. They had interesting songs not just po-faced versions of cool style. This crew sounds more like a fashion statement.

Hinklepicker, Friday, 3 May 2013 04:34 (ten years ago) link

yeah i'm also on the fence... feel like the british are distinctly good at ruining their young bands

flopson, Friday, 3 May 2013 04:56 (ten years ago) link

the marketing push on this band is ridiculous

the album art appears SEVEN TIMES on the Quietus review page

http://thequietus.com/articles/12140-savages-silence-yourself-review

ilxor, Saturday, 4 May 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link

“From the first rehearsal, it was very productive— we weren't just there to tell each other we're great,” remembers Milton, who arrives for her one-on-one grilling carrying a copy of The Fountainhead.

: /

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Saturday, 4 May 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

it's allowed if someone is 21 or younger.

scott seward, Saturday, 4 May 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link

well, preferably 18 or younger, but let's be kind.

scott seward, Saturday, 4 May 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link

they are like teeny tiny fashion models and that can only help their cause. i like the singer's lil' ian curtis dancing. what DO the people who were in elastica do now, by the way? do they have bbc chat shows or something? after britpop you never heard about the singer anymore.

scott seward, Saturday, 4 May 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link

but anyway i like these guys way better than something like interpol cuz these guys are adorable. like xmal-lite. i dig the guitar sound too. if you are gonna have the 485346634th 80's revival you could do worse. i mean who needs vampire weekend now?

scott seward, Saturday, 4 May 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link

squares

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 May 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

I really don't get the Interpol comparisons. Everything I ever heard by Interpol was enervating and terrible, pretty much the polar opposite of what I get from something like "Husbands"; which Interpol songs are the ones containing barely restrained fury and violence because I'd love to hear them

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Sunday, 5 May 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link

I can't take Husbands seriously because the chorus sounds so much like Horses by Patti Smith. Along with the Ian Curtis aping - it was an unfortunate way to put yourself out there I thought.

I was obviously wrong though since they do seem to have got people genuinely thrilled.

Hinklepicker, Sunday, 5 May 2013 02:47 (ten years ago) link

the interpol comparisons are lazy shorthand for "postpunk revival" imo

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 May 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link

and the attendant hype cycle

Tim F, Sunday, 5 May 2013 04:02 (ten years ago) link

80's pastiche is 80's pastiche. both Interpol and this band are taking from the same sources.

scott seward, Sunday, 5 May 2013 04:49 (ten years ago) link

Read the guardian profile at the weekend, couldn't decide between "they seem cool" & "they seem like tossers". Think the author of the piece was trying to suggest the latter tho.

just dude intonation (wins), Sunday, 5 May 2013 09:49 (ten years ago) link

Read the guardian profile at the weekend, couldn't decide between "they seem cool" & "they seem like tossers". Think the author of the piece was trying to suggest the latter tho.

just dude intonation (wins), Sunday, 5 May 2013 09:49 (ten years ago) link

I was all set to listen to this and actually quite excited, so I listened to the first few songs, but it was beautiful and sunny outside and it just sounded so wrong in that context and also just fucking rote and y'know eight years too late so I just couldn't be bothered. I might come back to it in September but it just feels like the wrong time for them in every way.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 May 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link

Savages are a serious band. They named their first single, Husbands, after a grim 1970 Cassavetes film, whereas their other inspirations include Philip K Dick, pornography and German industrial band Einstürzende Neubauten.

artsy types pronouncing that they're influenced by pron is just the funniest thing

dudes like pitbull and ranking and tom zanetti should totally start dressing like quakers and communicate solely in edicts like DEGRADATION IS THE ONLY TRUTH while not changing their music one bit

r|t|c, Sunday, 5 May 2013 12:26 (ten years ago) link

Multiple xposts: okay sure, but Interpol was always super boring and terrible and Savages are not so far

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Sunday, 5 May 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link

I've been chuffed about this band since I heard the single last year, and love the album. There's a handful of bands dipping into post-punk influences lately, like Grass Widow, Talk Normal, Pins, New War, Big Joan, Deep Time, Merchandise, etc., but I don't know that you could call it another revival. Most of the 80s influences are blended with all sorts of other stuff. Beth's vocals may occasionally sound like Siouxsie Sioux, but not anymore than she does Karen O. Music and arrangements don't make me think of the Banshees all that much. I hear fleeting moments of Stranglers' bass sound, Birthday Party in the guitar. But the muscular sound/production has more in common with Fugazi, Converge or Coliseum.

People seem to be okay with the fact that you can find literally thousands of bands influenced by Chuck Berry, Little Richard, the Stones, Cream, Zeppelin, Free, Sabbath, Lynnyrd, all the way up through White Stripes, but as soon as there's a whiff of anything from the post-punk era, the originality police come out in droves. Look at the comments on the Quietus review. They can grumble all they want and stay at home fondling original editions of Metal Box, but they'll be missing out on some great stuff.

Pins just finished recording their full length. The Savages album will be hard to top but I hope they get close.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 5 May 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

I am all for the blending. the old and the new. which is why this band sounds better to me than other lesser 80's-aping stuff. like, I can see these women getting as much inspiration from people like sleater-kinney and pj harvey as they do from all the usual suspects.

scott seward, Sunday, 5 May 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link

the singer's group before Savages:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpAqUfu91GI

scott seward, Sunday, 5 May 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

very very PJ here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bWojuvmwuU

scott seward, Sunday, 5 May 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

she's an amazing frontperson to build a band around, for sure. hott Ian Curtis is a winning formula in my book!

scott seward, Sunday, 5 May 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link

comically boxed in by the period perfect postpunk costuming

Yeah, this band is so OTM it's almost not OTM, but I'll take it. At least until everyone else likes them for being so OTM, at which point I will declare them not OTM and move on to something more OTM. Which inevitably is the stuff this band resembles. AKA, "the money."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 May 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

It's too soon after the last post punk revival. Other genres are available for inspiration.

Position Position, Sunday, 5 May 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link

Pre-punk?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 May 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

Someone forgot to send them the memo. Sorry ladies, the genre overlords allowed post-punk inspired bands in the 90s and early 00s, but this decade is off-limits. Why don't you try your hand at some nice folk rock?

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 5 May 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link

Maybe these guys are actually referencing '90s and '00s post-punk revival! Post-post-post-punk?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 May 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

Reminds me of controller.controller from a few years back. Maybe better with mood, but less so with the hooks. NOt moved, seems a tad too restrained. I just want to seem them rock out.

Fatalist AmandaPalmistry (irrational), Sunday, 5 May 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

would you guys say there is a flight from presentism involved in the hype surrounding this band?

la mord de l'auteur (wins), Sunday, 5 May 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link

matador records baby, it's their raison d

r|t|c, Sunday, 5 May 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link

Never heard the band before but I checked out the new album on Spotify and it's great!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 17 March 2016 03:44 (eight years ago) link

I was ambivalent at first, but it finally clicked with me. "Adore" is still the standout, but song for song, I probably like this just as much as I liked the debut.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 March 2016 03:50 (eight years ago) link

I still like the debut more but this is a fun album.

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 17 March 2016 14:18 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Saw them last night. Furious energy, charismatic and the guitarist makes beautiful Belew noises.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

holy shit the performance tonight at Glastonbury was something else, just *shockingly* good.

it'll be up here at some point http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ewcj5v/videos/p03ybmmv

piscesx, Saturday, 25 June 2016 00:14 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KMLyQjI5mI

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link

disgusting band

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Tell me who sends these infamous .gifs (bernard snowy), Thursday, 8 September 2016 11:41 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

she has too many h's in her name

j., Wednesday, 4 January 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

really liking the kite base album (ayse hassan's other band). kind of a cross between young marble gientsy sparseness and an update of the sort of thing too pure were putting out 20 years ago (e.g. laika, early peej)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESnYCvwBxUk

del esdichado (NickB), Friday, 26 May 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link

eleven months pass...

more from ayse hassan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkWNyDFqrro&feature=youtu.be

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

Suddenly struggling to hear "Adore" without imagining Morrissey singing it.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 6 December 2018 05:45 (five years ago) link

Man, this band dropped off my radar really quickly. Dug the first album, ditched the second, and I never had that itch in the back of my head making me play their stuff.

I'm hoping a third album produces something different.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link

Goat Girl have the missing ineffable thing that kept this band from sticking for me.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

I'm not very familiar with band outside of the music on its first album - which I love - so I had no idea Jehnny Beth had been acting in films. I only discovered this at a screening of Anatomy of a Fall (the Palme d'Or winner at this year's Cannes Film Festival) and I thought "that caretaker looks very familiar, where I have seen her before?"

birdistheword, Thursday, 30 November 2023 05:19 (four months ago) link


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