Brawls!

Also, I thought the pitch hit Senora A-Rod (oh snap!) on the elbow. Regardless, that was a strange time for "the best player in baseball" to Cowboy Up to the original Marlboro Men. Also, I've never heard of a team headhunting a player for hitting the game-winning SINGLE in the previous contest. Unless Bob Brenley was the manager.

i mean, in that other thread you were hinting that jeter might be a better shortstop, which would've gotten you strung up or worse in most parts a year ago. and he's had an off year, but it's not THAT off.

first of all, the best player in baseball tag is 75% agent hype from his free agency period after the 2000 season, a season in which he really WAS the best player in baseball. the tag stuck because in every year since he's been the best player in the american league, and the best all-around player in the game. even if he IS past his prime, you have to a allow a window for that perception to fade (especially now that he's a yankee(?)). and i'd still say he's probably the best all-around player in the game. IT IS JUST NOT A BIG DEAL OK. this is just some my-guy's-dick-is-bigger-than-yours-and-well-i-hate-the-yankees-too thing i'm sure, but gimme a break, like bonds is underrated by anybody?? get over it.

(and now i've really opened myself up so you're gonna continue to pull that shit just cuz, grr)

getting on topic now, i'm glad a-rod did what he did, and i don't think it was less about HIM being hit than it was about the yankees getting drilled left and right all year (and all last) by the sox and left unable to retaliate because of warnings issued. if a pitcher couldn't put a stop to it, a player had to, and a-rod did for this series. tell em when enough is enough, you know?

thanks a-rod!

are there any yankees that are having "all-star seasons" other than rivera?

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/rrereport04.html

A-Rod, Sheffield and Posada are all in the AL top 15 in Equivalent Average. Even as a Yankee hater, I can acknowledge they're legit All-Stars. A-Rod falls short only by his previous Olympian standards, and unlike hstencil, I don't think he's overpaid by a cent.

But John seriously why you want to get ALL CAPS on me?

"I've seen a lot of brawls," former Angel Bobby Grich told he Los Angeles Times, "but never during batting practice."

So what happened? The night before, Laird accused Kennedy of leaning into a pitch, hoping to get hit with the bases loaded to force in a run. He told him as much during that at-bat.

Kennedy sought to revisit the issue the next day . . . and one thing led to another. It started when Kennedy glared at his accuser.

"Do you have a problem?" Laird asked.

"Don't be trying to show me up," Kennedy said.

And then the two became entangled. Rangers outfielder Brian Jordan, the former Cardinal, jumped in and applied a headlock on Kennedy as the two teams converged.

Kendall v. Kennedy, 8/15/04

I can't get these to display this morning.

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2006/05/20/h4JAfVgE.jpg

We know from the brawl chart in BB Between the Numbers they don't "fire up" win totals of crappy teams, too.

This is a great picture, but the fan reactions are a reminder of my unfulfilled dream to be in attendance at a true bench-clearing brawl.

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/images/admin/aj_mot3.jpg

http://www.popstrology.com/temp/aj_sularz.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/plechazunga/low_e495a4dad7ca4e4.jpg

MLBN had some (25th anniv) clips of this '84 Pads-Braves tilt the other day, pretty amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo2shxvmIHs

haha nice

Ed Whitson, Shirtless Insane Pitcher

uh, where was the brawl? there was hardly any sound so unless they were saying funny mean things about one another's mothers...

oh, I'm sorry that's only Part 1! It gets "better." The megabrawling starts around 6:40 of Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/user/bookinnc#play/uploads/0/XmUM59Jv1DM

http://www.youtube.com/user/bookinnc#play/uploads/2/ELd29SF9RXo

http://www.youtube.com/user/bookinnc#play/uploads/1/zJ1iXW6YMGQ

oh i should have clicked through, cool

lol the one ump looks like he ate a couple fans during the brawl

The huge ump who hits the turf is John McSherry, who died on the field of a heart attack on Opening Day 1996 in Cincinnati.

What doesn't that brawl have? Bat wielding, fan trying to swipe helmet, fans in cuffs, multiple Tim Flannery eruptions, etc.

"...it's an automatic $50 fine for Whitsman..."

those were the days.

that was awesome. wish i could have heard any of it tho

maybe not... I think that's future Yankee blowhard John Sterling in the Braves' booth.

I know the '84 Padres were filled with crazed John Birchers, I think Flannery was one of them.

From the SI vault:

Umpire-in-chief John McSherry, who ejected 13 players altogether and cleared both dugouts after the ninth-inning fracas, said afterward that this game was "the worst thing I've seen in my life" and that it had "set baseball back 50 years." Williams, who is 55, hasn't been in the game that long, but he's definitely a baseball man of the old school. "We had some honor to defend," he said at a press conference Friday. "Perez is a headhunter. There's no question we went after him. I'm responsible for it. I'll accept the penalty, but I think it's pretty steep." Perez, who had hit only two batters in his previous 135 innings, denied he had been throwing at Wiggins, but was fined $300.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1122454/index.htm

Lefferts is a pussy.

The guy who tries to steal the batter's helmet right at the end looks like Sean Astin

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/Picture1-13.png

I know the '84 Padres were filled with crazed John Birchers, I think Flannery was one of them.

I don't think Flannery was one, but I could be wrong. Eric Show was the ringleader.

The guy who tries to steal the batter's helmet right at the end looks like Sean Astin

― caek, Thursday, August 6, 2009 4:53 PM

i lol'd

p.s.

http://www.newscloud.com/image_files/story_31432.jpg

http://gothamist.com/images/2003_10_zimmer.jpg

never forget

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/10000-days-since-the-billy-martin-ed-whitson-fight/

Benches clear!!! 👊@Angels | #GoHalos pic.twitter.com/EUnTTcjW1D

— Bally Sports West (@BallySportWest) June 26, 2022

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— Angels MiLB (@AngelsMiLB) June 26, 2022

nevin suspended 10 games for being a shithead

winker suspended seven games for . . . being plunked

raisel iglesias gets just two for being insane

Winker did, you know, flip off the entire stadium

lucky shot but congratulations to tim anderson on becoming the new robin ventura

synced up hammy’s radio call with the better angle broadcast

down goes anderson pic.twitter.com/oUxhEHT1eH

— paco (@AllaireMatt) August 6, 2023

funny how he squares up southpaw

Ramirez had crazy kid energy just throwing two-fisted prayers and one got answered.

lol insult to injury

Tim Anderson suspended 6 games for fight, Jose Ramirez out 3