"OK Computer": Classic Or Dud?

*goes back and look at that Replacements thread*

Pfft. Hey, Mr. Baier, it's called decaf, try it sometime.

I think its about time we just put up the question to end all questions: "Taking Sides: Loveless vs OK Computer vs The Stone Roses vs Nevermind".

*shudder*

The question you are perhaps thinking of is The Plan vs Telekon vs vs I, Assassin vs The Berserker

I love "OK Computer". It is the favourite album I own. It may not be the best in the world ever ever ever, but I wouldn't know. Done by someone else, better? Not that I've heard but that may be because my knowledge is limited. So I wouldn't know.

I can understand why its not everyone's cup of tea, I do agree with some of the common criticism of the band, their records and their politics.

But I object to people making radical comments that they've convinced themselves into believing just to rebel against the. Lots of people have written that stuff here. Examples? No, sorry, I can't remember them, so you'll have to look for 'em. You'll know them when you see them.

I think I need a lie down...

NOOOOO!!!!! Don't listen to Nate!!!

Its Fushitsusha's 'I Saw It! That of which I could only sense...'

Go for that!

I didn't know that everyone thought this alb was great. If by everyone= media, then they are not 'everyone' are they?

Really? I thought everyone raved about this album. I've only ever found one other person who thought it was so-so. Everyone else I know thinks it's one of the best albums every. I can't, for the life of me, figure out what the hell they're talking about.

The next two keep me more satisfied. I think they are the true classic albums. OKC sounds very passengers to me, and also early floyd. And that last roger waters lp, last march, stand final cut thats it. I think radiohead were lucky that people were looking for an album to be the saviour of rock....

Why are you being so nice to it?

''Ten to twenty years from now we'll have learned to just appreciate it for the pretty melodies (just like ppl did with "The Wall").''

Not after the avant-garde REVOLUTION is over and done with. We will not be needing 'melodies' any longer hurrah.

Dear God, it may be one of the best albums ever!

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAH!!!!

oops. I need to change my underwear.

Don't even get me STARTED on how great the Replacements were. Let's just say you had to be there.

xpost -- yeah, I forgot about that. 9/11 CHANGED EVERYTHING MAN.

airbag wasn't cut up, it was just Colin left gaps where he hadn't come up with parts yet and intended to finish it later but they ended up happy with it like that

Ah, that’s cool.

On some of the early rehearsals of ‘Airbag’ on the recently leaked minidiscs, it sounds like he was playing his True Love Waits part over the top

excellent: https://thequietus.com/articles/26675-radiohead-minidiscs-hacked-review

the kind of brash confidence a band exhibits when it isn’t really confident about the material

this will stick with me

I liked reading that Quietus piece, but to be honest, what little of this Radiohead content drop I've dug into has revealed that, at least to my ears, it hasn't revealed much. That is to say, it's so all over the place it doesn't give away the secrets to the universe or anything. It reminded me of the U2 sessions that leaked right before Achtung Baby. They're full of all sorts of stuff, from blues jams on up, and one of the few things that paves the way to Achtung Baby, a song or riff they keep coming back to, doesn't even end up on the album. Just an interesting snapshot of a band working things out.

yep pretty much. I agree with the reviewer that mostly you're hearing an easier road not taken. A lot of earlier 90s style castaways. I thought the hype about Lift around the "OKNOTOK" reissue was overblown (and I heard and loved Lift from bootlegs in the 90s), all this stuff about not wanting the radio hit. But when you hear the sort of material that would've gone along with an album led by Lift (Attention, Funky Clothes, I Promise too), you know that wasn't just marketing talk.

xp Yeah the U2 sessions they play bits of in the Achtung Baby documentary.. it's exactly what these sessions remind me of; random bits that you recognise amid the mess, or in the 'wrong place'.

I wonder how much of this process — "Just an interesting snapshot of a band working things out" — is even that typical any more, given the decentralisation of recording/writing process enabled by laptops.