Does one of those links go to Gil Scott-Heron?
You're talking about the bass line to "Metronomic Underground," I take it?
― jaymc, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Song on Aluminum Tunes:
http://www.reel.com/Content/Reelimages/hollconf/1013_getcarter.jpg
― jaymc, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Pack Yr Romantic Mind from Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements begins with a sample from "Pop Orbite", a song on Chico Magnetic Band's album.
― oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Obvious one, they recorded a split record with her. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Fontaine http://www.discogs.com/release/256204
― oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I always thought Speedy Car had a bit of the Soft Machine about them.
But if you want to talk United States of America, it's Broadcast on their first album that really rips that.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link
On Dots and Loops. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Brakhage
― oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Road_Again_(Canned_Heat)
― oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link
I agree, I'd prefer to keep this to direct references / uncredited samples / lyrical lifts rather than vaguer incorporated influences or else I'd just be Sylvie Vartaning it up over here
first track on Refried Ectoplasm, 'Harmonium', where the 70's DJ spools up a tape which promptly breaks and falls off the reel is lifted from an aircheck of Negativland's 'Over the Edge Vol 4 - Dick Vaughan'
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.filmpolski.pl/z1/47o/7547_1.jpg
http://www.film.org.pl/images2/fearless_vampire_killers/plakat.jpg
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/si/silver-cross-sleepover-classic-pram.jpg
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:48 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.indiatomorrow.net/health/images/lemonade.jpg
- le
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:49 (sixteen years ago) link
great work, Milton!
― sleeve, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link
This http://www.yellowmelodies.com/e-zine/numero5/portadas/Stereol7.jpg
is supposed to be based on the comic series Pravda la Survireuse by Guy Peellaert. http://www.bedetheque.com/thb_couv/pravda.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes, this is a nice thread. Milton rocks.
nabisco, do they really reference _À Rebours_? That's one of my favorite books ever.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Here are the YouTube dissections of musical origins I was talking about. Apart from a couple things that seem too basic to see as steals (e.g., the Canned Heat), they're mostly pretty clear lifts or pastiches, without too many stretches -- and a couple disappointing "oh man, I can't believe you lifted the melody" parts. Mostly it's rhythmic grooves and feels they're snipping from things and using as a basis for their own stuff.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IrFdR7I_kjM http://youtube.com/watch?v=s9N1uwNEraM http://youtube.com/watch?v=E9iiJy0jWSg http://youtube.com/watch?v=LNAO-vqa6R0
Artists mentioned: Faust, Piero Piccioni, Canned Heat, Gal Costa, Krzystzof Komeda, Kraftwerk, Jean-Michel Jarre, Sun Ra, Snapper, Wanderlea, Laurie Anderson, the Association, the Archies, Serge Gainsbourg, Neu!, Silver Apples, Steve Reich, and Plastic Ono Band (as source of "Emperor Tomato Ketchup" bass line -- this was the only one that kinda surprised me!)
― nabisco, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost turangalila I'm not 100% sure. 'against nature' is the title in translation and a direct reference would have used the original french. the lyrics do seem to me like a commentary or response to the book, I linked them upthread
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link
if it is a reference it's admittedly not a very direct one (though I'm sure they've read it) -- with those lines about 'war', probably something else made the song's orbit as well
I actually liked this translation better, but I went for the pop edition to underscore the reference
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link
You're talking about the bass line to "Metronomic Underground," I take it? Yup, that's what I'm talking about, jaymc.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Milton I can't believe you didn't post this -
http://files.myopera.com/E.%20Driver/albums/35120/JohnCage.jpg
― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 25 October 2007 01:58 (sixteen years ago) link
xxpost Milton
Hmm... yes. "Living fantasy of the immortal"
thanks!
I've actually only read it in Spanish. Going to buy this version you recommend!
― Turangalila, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Gastr del Sol opened for Stereolab at the Metro in Chicago back in the mid-90s, and a couple weeks before the show I bumped into David Grubbs at the Hyde Park Kinko's on 57th St. He showed me the gig flyer he was printing up which read "Stereolab - 'John Cage Bubblegum' / Gastr del Sol - 'Steve Reich n Roll'"
― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link
I didn't actually go that show tho. Dumb! I never saw Stereolab.
― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link
I HAVE THAT FIRST RECORD!
― jaxon, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link
it's been so long, but they ripped the bassline for a song directly from a yoko ono tune from her first or second solo album
― jaxon, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.zenker.se/Books/the_stars_my_destination.jpg
― dad a, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:17 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.see.com.au/blog/archives/Darren%20002.jpg
― Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Prokofiev's Symphonie Diabolique: http://website.lineone.net/~dmitrismirnov/image020.jpg
― dad a, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:32 (sixteen years ago) link
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51It1cvE6cL._SS500_.jpg
― dad a, Thursday, 25 October 2007 05:27 (sixteen years ago) link
This is the future of an illusion Aggressive culture of despotism Living fantasy of the immortal The reality of an animal
― These Robust Cookies, Thursday, 25 October 2007 06:27 (sixteen years ago) link
One of their tracks is based on "Disco Rough" by Mathématiques Modernes.
― Raw Patrick, Thursday, 25 October 2007 09:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Can't think of anything less obvious right now (I thought I was a genius for spotting the 100 Years of Solitude thing once and then googled it and nabisco had already written about it on Pitchfork, thus I lose), but "Enivrez-Vous!" from Peng! takes its lyrics from a Baudelaire prose-poem.
I'd always wondered about some of these! Thanks.
― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 25 October 2007 10:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Maybe someone knows what that French Disco line really is: Bubble Withdrawal?
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 October 2007 10:33 (sixteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucia_Pamela
― zeus, Thursday, 25 October 2007 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link
I have her CD somewhere, it is bats!
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 October 2007 11:23 (sixteen years ago) link
a lot of that youtube series of comparisons are a little on the vague side, but they're fun
I would not have compared 'Emperor Tomato Ketchup' to 'Why?' by the Plastic Ono Band, I'd have used "Les Histoires D'A" by Les Rita Mitsouko
Stereolab guilty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML9PWVm0wEQ
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link
& I will post these anyway
Sylvie Vartan - Cette lettre-là (1965) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOlx2MxC6eQ
Sylvie Vartan - Par amour par pitié (1966) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3uL8M0svSQ
Sylvie Vartan - Irresistiblement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZCbwg6VmnI
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Pack Yr. Romantic Mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataille
― Bill in Chicago, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.bigoven.com/uploads/margarine.jpg
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 October 2007 03:15 (sixteen years ago) link
that was feeble, sorry
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 October 2007 03:16 (sixteen years ago) link
brilliant thread, that Jirí Trnka film is mindblowing. good work!
has anyone mentioned family fodder yet?, as a general influence and specifically savoire faire and it's uncanny resemblance to (i think) wow and flutter. was it milton who mentioned upstairs somewhere that sterolab steals seem a bit disingenuous? i dunno if i could go along with that, their references generally seem pretty overt, if obscure. i think it's pretty key to the appeal of stereolab that you just know everything is pilfered.
― cw, Friday, 26 October 2007 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Yet nothing sounds quite like Stereolab. Sort of like a robot made of all sorts.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 October 2007 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link
holy shit this thread. overwhelming amount of info. more pls!
― CharlieNo4, Friday, 26 October 2007 12:22 (sixteen years ago) link
What Charlie No4 said above.
thanks, people
― Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 26 October 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link
"All good things to come.."
― Mark G, Friday, 26 October 2007 12:57 (sixteen years ago) link
MBV,Spacemen 3, Astrud Gilberto, Nico, Francoise Hardy.
― Zeno, Friday, 26 October 2007 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link
"Pause" samples the "Swedish Rhapsody" numbers station transmission. (Numbers stations transmission consist of transient noise bursts with announcements.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVqaoxxsN7Q More info: http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page30.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station
― dad a, Friday, 26 October 2007 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Wouldn't it be quicker to just list the things that aren't a direct influence on Stereolab?
Like uh........ummmmm........
― PhilK, Friday, 26 October 2007 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Corn Flakes
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 October 2007 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link
You obviously haven't heard the obscure 1996 comp-only track "Kellogg Oberheim Fondle"
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 October 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm not on board with a lot of these, but ... http://youtube.com/watch?v=IrFdR7I_kjM http://youtube.com/watch?v=s9N1uwNEraM http://youtube.com/watch?v=E9iiJy0jWSg http://youtube.com/watch?v=LNAO-vqa6R0
― jaxon, Saturday, 27 October 2007 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link
not a direct reference but this Eurythmics album In The Garden has some moments that sound a lot like early Stereolab to me. same kinda droney vocals and farfisa thing going on... check out “your time will come” and “all the young people (of today)”. idk has this been noted before? I’m just hearing this album.“your time will come”: https://youtu.be/VcZjwxnscp8“all the young people”: https://youtu.be/2xh0R5WRIwU
― brimstead, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link
well, the farfisa is in “all the young people” anyway
― brimstead, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
Is Sing-Sing the one that sounds like one of the Mouse On Mars collaborations?
I've long maintained that Caveman Head sounds like Th' Faith Healers.
― Stanley Halfbrick (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link
Agree about the first Eurythmics album. 'She's Invisible Now' sounded the most like Stereolab to me.
― Publicradio (3×5), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link
I’m just hearing this album.
u lucky guy, it's great, total Can action
― sleeve, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link
"The Long Hair of Death":https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3HkESAaMDE(Just noticed this today since it's now on Amazon Prime: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07JX589FB/ref=atv_dp_b07_det_c_UTPsmN_1_18)
― ernestp, Friday, 1 January 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link
I bet that "Allures" borrows its name from the Jordan Belson short film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HVo23jC7cs
― ernestp, Sunday, 8 August 2021 05:46 (two years ago) link
Updated link for *Allures*
― ernestp, Saturday, 11 March 2023 20:48 (one year ago) link