are disco edits the new electroclash?

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It's the new punk.

Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

balogna.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

it's pretty much the new trip hop BECAUSE

1) pastiche factor = "hey look, the best moments of old school rap, WITHOUT THE RAP"

2) uneasy hipsters = "hey, couldn't i just be spinning alice coltrane records instead of major force west??"

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

cue james murphy sputtering over early goldsworthy UNKLE productions: "what is this shit?? i have RARE SILVER APPLES ON VINYL!!!"

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway beardo disco is dead, the new shit is mid-70s blue note / columbia / CTI / perception etc.

ronnie laws + kirk degiorgio, yizzeard??

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

4 hero ft grover washington jr - "just the two of us" (junglist version excursion remix)

check for it

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Err, all that has been done before, surely?

Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway beardo disco is dead, the new shit is mid-70s blue note / columbia / CTI / perception etc.
ronnie laws + kirk degiorgio, yizzeard??

why not start a new thread! (and leave this one alone?)

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

no, i am just kidding, the main thing i am trying to get across is that the confusion you feel is OK, it's natural, other people dealt with it before you did and they got through it OK, people like the freestylers and bentley rhythm ace.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

someone listing similarities between beardo disco and trip-hop and coming up with antipathy/similarity to old school hip-hop but not coming up with pot pot pot supposedtosmokemarijuana leaves me wondering if they're familiar with the majority of the elements they're talking about or the one they ain't.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i like "beardo" BTW, whatever it is... all those dudes are into playing all types of music, not just trainspotter disco tracks- hence the Im A Man edit Eric did. and that guy has a BEARD!

mike simonetti (mike simonetti), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

vahid-I have no idea what you're talking about.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

ok anyway the drugs thing is just another similarity b/w the old eclectic trip hop and the new school.

i am serious, the difference in method between the glimmer twins and, say, jon carter or freddy fresh or krafty kuts is a couple of years and a couple of cred pts

xpost it's ok dan i'm thinking out loud and i still like your dj mixes a lot!

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

purposeful obtuseness

xxpost

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i think this shit is all i care about in dance music anymore

unless some hipsters wanna go ahead and renovate happy hardcore for me. k thnx bye.

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

oh wait that eye 12"

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

But Vahid, can you hear the difference between, say, Bentley Rhythm Ace and Quiet Village? There is a difference in style and quality that seems fairly apparent to me.

Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i am a structuralist of the old school

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

;-)

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

10-4

Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

the carl craig edits are on a label out of amsterdam called moxie. i think he is responsible for most of the releases on that label. i have the one with the talking heads edit and the one with the chic edit and they are ok.

did/do people actually dance to trip hop cause beardo disco seems more amenable to dancing crushing the analogy in the process (as structurally correct as it may be)

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

people did--and do--dance to trip hop. (i think vahid is slightly blurring the line between trip-hop and the slightly less manic/smiley face side of big beat, however.)

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:01 (seventeen years ago) link

fair enough.

anyone know if there are there any reel to reel edits sets floating around the internerd?

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.richcolour.com/mastermix/

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, start here:

http://www.richcolour.com/mastermix/vol1/

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:14 (seventeen years ago) link

and see:

http://members.home.nl/discopatrick/

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:15 (seventeen years ago) link

thank you dan!

does anyone remember the scene from new order's "confusion" video where arthur baker and band bring the reel-to-reel spool to the club? where are the modern freestyle edits?

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man that site is so sweet

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

The club was the Funhouse, but you also see the ramp up to the Paradise Garage. Best video ever?

If you get off the internet, a lot of the best of these edits/boots (i mean the old ones) are really easy to find, still being pressed, and kinda fun to collect. You can get the Big Apple Productions releases, like volume 2, the Latin Rascals one, at stores all over NYC.

I discovered some hot hi-nrg tracks from a vinyl mix called Aerobic Speedballer Mix.

http://members.home.nl/discopatrick/jdc.htm

don't pay more then like, a buck for these of course.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:23 (seventeen years ago) link

people did--and do--dance to trip hop. (i think vahid is slightly blurring the line between trip-hop and the slightly less manic/smiley face side of big beat, however.)
-- applejack carney (wt...), June 12th, 2006 7:01 PM. (dubplatestyle) (later)

yeah i DO mean big beat! but believe it or not i spent 20 minutes this morning trying to remember what it was called ... then i was like "fuck it, i'll call it trip hop". srsly though, you could make the same case about "trip hop" re: delia + gavin.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

9 MINUTES OF NON-STOP ENERGY

xpost

jäxøñ (jaxon), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

HI I READ MUZIK IN 1996 TOO

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, no i didnt

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

the question being: who will take beardo disco mega mainstream ala fatboy/chems? are we still in the "amyl house" days?

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

definitely in contention for best video ever. it's the one i always go back to on the dvd comp.

i like some hi-nrg, but i think what i really like is the slower bpm stuff.

so there should be a beardo cover of "i wonder if i take you home". who should make it? or maybe it's one classic that should be left alone.

i am listening to big apple prod vol 2 now. (after checking out the nutso sigue sigue sputnik mix from the first link which oddly reminded me of the villalobos track on superlongevity 4)

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

that what a split second xpost with strongo.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

oh wow, the kiss fm cut and splice mix is great!

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

does anyone remember the scene from new order's "confusion" video where arthur baker and band bring the reel-to-reel spool to the club?

fac 93 people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2xxuibDrhc&search=new%20order%20confusion

wonder if thats joe's pizza in the beginning

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I assume everyone here is familiar with bumrocks.com

Maybe the edits are getting a little pervasive but anything that exposes me to music like I Love You More (Mr K Inst.) - Rene & Angela can be called prog rock for all I care.

I really found vahid's trip hop rant up above amusing considering the amount of space he has spent defending mowax but what the hell.

hector (hector), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link

huh?

but i'm DEFENDING big beat here!

big beat ... is cool ... for the same reasons ... that beardo disco is cool!!

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

See that is where I think you lost a few people on the thread cause i knew you liked beardo but it seemed as if you were hating on big beat/trip hop. Which actively confused me and apparently Dan as well. Carry on then, and check out bumrocks.

hector (hector), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 04:06 (seventeen years ago) link

bumrocks will be djing this weeks Dazzle Ships, with Doug Lee (Lee Douglas), Jeremy Campbell and myself. I go on first because I'm leaving early so I can come home and pack and move.

http://www.tropicalcomputersystem.com/

Vahid's analogy comes from the beardo thread, equating beardo's mixture of classic rock and disco with big beat's mixture of rock and club music. I haven't been able to put into words why I think it's irrelevant, other then a "there's a difference and I know it when I hear it" as mentioned above.

It may have something to do with Big Beat's whole uk sampledelic sources, where it's like, the Beatles + Coldcut = Chemical Fatboy whatever, whereas beardo is more about the sound of classic rockers playing disco, whether it's the Doors Peace Frog and The Wasp, Chicago's I'm a Man, The Rolling Stones Undercover of the Night era etc.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 11:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I need to do my research better before I mouth off then, apologies to you Vahid.

Lee Douglas! Nice. I love his track and the one edit I have of his.

hector (hector), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

That nice looks cool Dan. It appears way laid back and dig the easy access to tacos.

What is the girl to boy ratio at one of those nights? Is it mainly guys scratching their chins and checking out the jams or is it pure disco fever?

hector (hector), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I like going there and scratching my chin while talking to girls.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

are disco edits really that different from say unofficial remixes?

I mean, they seem to flow in at a fairly steady rate and the ones done by prydzstyleremixer/discoman@hotmail.com are almost always shit

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

the neighborhood food choices to bring into the bar are grebt, but the real selling point is 2 for 1 drinks until 9 or 10 or so ($2.50 pints).

but yeah, its all about the girls and the beard scratching.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

girl boy ratio? 1:1.

that means that one boy shows up, and one girl. That's it. 2 people. Can't beat that ratio.

Are you really looking to early evening record listening parties to score?

You're better off with Heather's on thursday nights. The skirt there is unbeatable.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

and I don't mean skirt-steak tacos.


I don't like the direction this thread is going.

I'm showing up at 8 and leaving early, and have no time to pick out records, so it'll be a suprise for you as well as me. Don't let Mike be the only person to show up before 10 pm!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

skirt!

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

and why is it the nadir?

beta blog, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

how funny is it that the only edits i've heard of being released in the past few months is by the starter of this thread

jaxon, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

more like a personal nadir - the track title / credentials had me totally excited, and then when i heard it, just total pffffft

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

the new edits from Personal Nadir are amazing.

Afro Cosmic with a Halloween vibe.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link

(xxpost) Jaxon - Bim Marx just released our latest 12" this month.

Wayland Flowers And Madman (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link

and how are those Simonetti edits? i was underwhelmed by a 12" he put out and have avoided the others since then.
seconding Bim Marx.

beta blog, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

are r&b edits the new disco edits?

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

my friend charles sent me a disco edit that he made - and made an acetate of - in 1979 of Instant Funk and man was he ahead of his time. so cool. everything new is old again.

scott seward, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link


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