Daft Punks's "Discovery" : Classic or Dud

Just relax and feel the groove, dl.

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it is dance music, afterall.

He was always good with genre.

no, ronan, i think it's your mom who says that OH MY GOD OH NO PFFT

I just realized the potentially disasterous implications of this acronym in this phrase.

it is dance music, afterall.

Who said dance music had to be so deadly dull though? Surely dance is all about build ups and break downs and cheeky little bits that make you sit up and take notice. Granted, Discovery is perhaps more of a rock album compared to Homework but it is testament to the way dance can make you feel exhilarated and keep you bouncing around, new ideas hitting you at every turn.

Homework may have harder beats but they're really unpleasant to listen to (and I like Gabba). It's this kind of depressed mid-tempo whumping noise. It doesn't do anything to improve my life.

Okay, Morrissey.

Yeh, me too. Maybe I ought to forget about Discovery and try Homework out seperately. I still don't think I'll like it. Every time I've put it on, track one starts...

WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP
"Hmmm...."
WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP
"...When's that melody gonna kick in?"
WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP
"S'pose they're just being DJ friendly or something"
WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP
"Aw, c'mon DO SOMETHING!"
WHUMP SQUELCHY WHUMP SQUELCHY WHUMP
"Ah, that's more like it... I-I think"
WHUMP SQUELCHY WHUMP SQUELCHY WHUMP
"This is testing my patience more than an Autechre album..."
WHUMP SQUELCHY WHUMP SQUELCHY CROWD NOISE
(TRACK ENDS)
"Was that it?"
(TRACK TWO BEGINS)
WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP
"Oh for crap's sake".

I like repetitive loops and beats as much as the next man but these don't equal genius, they equal knob twiddling, and not very exciting knob twiddling at that.

why don't they just break out the organically grown guitars!

Wow. Abandon all hope, dude.

This is the line that makes me bubble with inappropriate laughter.

Hang on hang on. I know that on ILX I like to play devil's advocate a lot but you know that this is not what I'm saying. If you read my posts you'll know that I enjoy producing, mixing and dancing to dance music. Don't want to get up on this now but I've noticed that you will get pretty aggressive about certain subjects and I could see you were going to play the "you are a rockist" a long way off.
This is rubbish really. If you've read my comments above, I was not having a go at any particular style of music, I was talking about Homework and how most of the tracks are average-speed whumpers with little or no variation to them. Maybe I'll admit that I think a good dance track should have build ups, breakdowns, stops, starts, and in most cases some kind of hook. Homework doesn't make me feel anything at all. It doesn't move me because it's all the same speed and more or less the same sounds the way through. It becomes a chore. I can't dance to something that is that predictable. Ironically I reckon "So Much Love to Give" is ace but that's because it really is one big massive build up. I dunno, it's just a drag.

nobody would say "it's just guitar playing" about a rock band.

also how "homework" is hookless remains a mystery to me, most of the haters would complain it's too full of hooks and not loopy enough, and let's face it in comparison to so so so much ace dance music it really is full of hooks.

personally i find how harsh and abrasive daft punk were kind of amazing given they used to be in a mimsy indie band.

yeah I found most of RAM to be a strung out snoozefest too but no doubt it's a really great sounding record which shows the kind of shit you can and should be doing with an actual budget, I wish more big acts tried to sound like that

Happened a lot for me when I was 11, 12 in the mid 90’s. My first approach for several “legacy” acts was with their most recent hits as presented in compilations like “Now!” So per example this were all songs I first heard by these artists

This was always me when I was little - the years-long gaps between loving lots of songs by an artist (in childhood) and becoming an actual 'fan' (generally in adolescence) - but it was sometimes via some probably odd tracks, i.e.

David Bowie - New Killer Star (via Brit Awards 2004) (I did already sort of know "Heroes" but never listened to it)
Erasure - Solsbury Hill (via Now 54)
George Michael - Flawless (Go to the City) (via Now 58) and the Shapeshifters Remix (via numerous summer 04 club compilations) (again, I sort of liked Fastlove but rarely listened to it)

My opinion of Human After All has increased over the years and RAM declined sharply after I initially enjoyed it. Now they’re even for last place, although neither are bad by any means.

Human After All is my favourite

the best Daft Punk album is the Musique Vol 1 best-of compilation and even that suffers by using the radio version of One More Time and by not featuring Burnin'

“Something about us” seems the most RAM thing on the album

Not exactly what you're asking, but a few music enthusiasts my age had their first serious encounter with David Bowie via Blackstar.

Prince’s Batman would be mine