nick sylvester = maker upper

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We don't know what happened. But there's this article to talk about. I thought it was intriguing, possibily slanderous, and worth talking about as this is a site full of journalists.

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

ILM IS INTERESTED IN DEFENDING YOU

YES

IS THAT BECAUSE YOURE A SMARMY RACIST?

.....

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

if this doesn't blow over tomorrow it'll be back on ILM in a second, if anywhere. I'm with jess on this, this thread (but not the thread to potentially come) basically isn't going to do any good at all. Deletion might be a bit much unless it gets really sour, but it is basically useless for any purposes after the first post until Gawker graciously updates with any of those fact things.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link

who wants to bet the comma abuser is nick sylvester?

naturemorte, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I think far too many threads have been deleted recently.

It's like reading through the eyes of some overzealous mod.

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

alternately

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link

who wants to bet the comma abuser is nick sylvester?

nope.

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link

i readily admit to schnadenfreude at this

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

So if Kanye West posted here we couldn't call his ass out over somethign stupid he did?

Despite the tunnel vision of the blogosphere, I wouldn't exactly call Nick Sylvester a public figure.

Plus, I think having a scarlet letter on his resume would be "call[ing] his ass out" enough. Let the guy be.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Who is getting satisfaction here Eppy?

xpost

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

xposts - yeah I don't think this should be deleted either as is, but I still think it's a little but a placeholder until the "facts" arrive.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

even tho hes boring i wouldnt wish the same on breihan

,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Why the need for deletion? Surely ILM mods such as Nick's PFM co-writer Jess, and Village Voice co-scribe Sterling, will want the thread to stay up for when we can all watch Sylvester's triumphant vindication from these cruel and vicious and boundless rumours, surely?

Also: lol2005.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

this backlash is fucking nuts!!! we cant talk shit about nick sylvester making dumb shit up?? 'call it hyper-game'

,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

So now we're on to backlash backlash? See, this is why I miss blogs. Can't you kids go talk about this on your friends-only LJs?

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link

how does it feel to be perpetua's perpetua

,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Like I said.

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

haha dom someday maybe you'll actually rate this sort of thread like you so desperately want to.

p.s. the archives bear out that there's no love lost between me and nick. repeatedly.

ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I predict a wry Ott.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

"Please insert an “allegedly” into every sentence of that second, speculative graf. We’ll let you know more as we do."

fucking tenterhooks I tell thee :-P

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

theres a wry ott goin on

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Jess, this is neither the time nor the place for trolling, this is an unprovoked attack on a highly respected internet music journalist from cowards who hide behind blogs, a la terrorists. I'm lighting a candle for truth right now: I hope you are too.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i enjoyed your earlier work, esteban

ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link

whoops

ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Until suspicions are confirmed (or refuted), we should shut the fuck up, and wish him the best.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link

why the fuck should we wish him the best

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

its most courtesy than he'd extend to any rapper he interviews

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

[ethan interloper]

,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

fuck off gay stalker

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

can we at least delete this comma dude's posts.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Or start talking about Cat Power too or something.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:06 (eighteen years ago) link

This might be controversial, but I find Cat Power to be a very attractive woman.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link

ethics, by mr. tom smith

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link

This omission - in and of itself not a David Irving-level falsehood - was crucial for the advancement of Syl's syllogism, his poisoned well, his inherently flawed argument.

Nick, you're a sniveling little cunt.

Granted, your piece didn't inflict harm on anyone (least of all TLASILA - we received free press, etc.), and your assertions, while arguably snarky and insipid, were scarcely libelous.

I'm pissed because you appealed to our better nature, then fucked us for an idiotic punchline. You can't get much lower.

,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm annoyed, as someone familiar with cocky/funny and Neil Strauss, that New Yorkers are ruining it before I even get there.

WillS, Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i knew something was wrong when i read a voice article i enjoyed

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I read this on the subway last night, and kinda figured that it was just Nick being Nick, which is fine by me, but clearly is not something that translates to actual journalism.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Next you'll tell me there is no such phenomenon as ripsterism?!!

http://www.villagevoice.com/nyclife/0602,sylvester,71589,15.html

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i enjoyed half this article on the subway this morning, then promptly threw it away when I got to work. Later in the day I went to the site to find the rest and couldn't find it there..

if Sylvester goes down, then the illustrator should too:

http://images.villagevoice.com/issues/0609/sylvester2.jpg

http://www.marcoschin.com/img/lavalife/2002_dogwalk.jpg

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

there's no such thing as the South Bitch Diet?

imbidimts, Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link

those illustrations are great! esp. since they're on the subway! i mean, what better place to see idealized cartoon twenty-somethings cavorting in love on a billboard just above, say, a man who smells of his own urine? i love new york!!!!!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link

midi, both those pieces are illustrated by the same guy.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

two-timer

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:19 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost i think he knows that, hence "illustrator" singular.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Just to clarify, I linked that "ripster" thing (which I hated as much as I like Nick's 'Fork writing, but that's irrelevant) to illustrate that Sylvester obviously is/was the Voice's go-to po-mo satirist; the only ludicrous part of the whole saga is that someone decided his was cover story material - thus subjecting it to a completely unwarranted level of expectations and scrutiny. I mean, FFS, did anybody expect Nick to double-source his facts and log his Factiva searches when his stuff ran in the Choices' "Essay" section?

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Now watch the dude become the anti-Adam Penenberg, a poster boy for why bloggerization of the press is an awful, standard-lowering thing. Sad.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

interesting how nick sylvester gets fired for making up stuff but people like kenny goldsmith ["kenny g" to the wfmu-familiar] have entire magazines devoted to his con artist antics.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link

that doesn't explain the viral marketing piece's complete misattributions, tho. those industry-specific columns usually carry the veneer of, y'know, actual research (at least when douglas wolk writes 'em they seem credible).

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link

that last post was to joseph cotten but it could stand in as a response to maria, too.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe we'll get a "Saturday Night Fever" out of this.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

RIP the old ilx FAQ that said "the jody rosen that posts on ilx is not the jody rosen that writes for rolling stone"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:46 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

Wait so we have him to thank for Shamir?

jaymc, Thursday, 18 December 2014 05:20 (nine years ago) link

he certainly has put his name on the Northtown wikipedia page a bunch of times, hasn't he?

een, Thursday, 18 December 2014 05:33 (nine years ago) link

Heh.

jaymc, Thursday, 18 December 2014 05:34 (nine years ago) link

the inexorable end game: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hiring-a-music-writer-who-wants-to-work-for-you

iggwilv azaelea (sanskrit), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Does the endless positivity start to feel fake after a while? Sure. Did I spend my first week here co-writing a terrible song titled “Bone to Bone”? Of course I did.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link


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