arctic monkeys: number 1 in the midweek charts.

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i found it streaming free on the bbc collective site http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/singles

i'm not in to it, i must say

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

arctic monkey % of sales for under 21's = 95 % + ?

They are just a kiddie NME teen band

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

my work colleague, roughly my age, a little under, is mad into this song

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=970279

― Matt Slack ((1903-70)), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Arctic Monkeys = Birdland of 2005

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Did Birdland have a number one in the midweeks? Will Arctic Monkeys write a begging letter to the NME when their career goes down the swanee?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Two things going for this band:

1. The bassist's constantly popped collar
2. The cute lead vocalist/guitarist

Music-wise? Let's just say high school bands shouldn't sell this well.

― Steev (Steev), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

the libertines did this much much much better three years ago

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

snd that's the scary thing.. especially when the libertines aren't that great anyway.

maybe it's time for me to flog that arctic monkey promo for their last single that i was sent.

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

If the Arctic Monkeys get to no 1 does that mean we should throw away the history books? Will volumes of the future simply read;

"The Arctic Monkeys got to number one."

Leaving everything else in the position of mere footnotes?

― jive session (elwisty), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

what i want to know is: does c-man like the arctic monkeys?

― vacuum cleaner (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link

he's prob'ly in the erctic mernkeys.

― Nöödle Vägue (noodle vague), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

are there any other artists that have gone big, or semi big thanks to buzz on the internet?

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Baz Luhrman - "The Sunscreen Song"

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link

That Madonna "Wheels On The Bus Go Round And Round" thingy, that was linked from Popbitch a few months before it charted.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Cuban Boys

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link

~~Franz Ferdinand~~

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link

GRIME

oh sorry, you did specify big or semi-big...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link

but im serious guys. can you think of any? my friend is telling me no one has done it before the arctic monkeys and it annoys me that i cant tell him "no, you're WRONG".

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I kind of suspect there'a more to it than just "buzz on the internet".

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link

well that's how it started. nme didnt pick up on it until they were already pretty popular.

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link

the arctic monkeys' record company has people on its payroll whose job it is to deliberately create a "buzz on the internet."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah I was about to say, PH23_R 0NE "STREET TEAM".

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

That doesn't actually make it any less of a buzz tho.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes it does because it is a FALSE BUZZ.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:02 (eighteen years ago) link

How does any buzz start?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link

the arctic monkeys' record company has people on its payroll whose job it is to deliberately create a "buzz on the internet."

how can i become one of these people?

(NOT for the arctic monkeys obv.)

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:04 (eighteen years ago) link

walk away lex. be a nurse. or a firefighter. or a teacher. do something useful for your world.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

well I dont know how that would work. I have lots of friends who are into that scene and they all say it was definitely a word of mouth thing and the band playing every indie club in the uk slowly building their rep. i mean, they played infront of thousands of people at glastonbury and that was before anyone talked about them in the media and im not sure if they were signed to domino then.

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

it was all planned. the media owed domino some favours.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link

If the "buzz" is whipped up by street teams, then it's not a "buzz", it's HYPE.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

There's that synonym for it too, yes.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link

how can i become one of these people?

Get a media degree, fail to get a job in the media, develop a pathological hatred for the world, and there you go.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link

There was a book out a couple of years ago, about how "buzz" is created, including use of "street teamers" on message boards, chat rooms etc. I forget the title/author. I was going to buy it, but I didn't, because reading it would have just made me feel powerless and angry.

I often wonder, I mean we must get a bit of it on here, but how much?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Dom just describe me. Except I never tried to get a job.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Kaisers = Space

-- Dom Passantino (juror...), October 18th, 2005.

Wow...yes...this explains why I hate them so much.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link

pashmina: look at some of the posts in the other arctic monkeys thread. i suspect some of the posts might be from such individuals.

but, again, i first heard of the arctic monkeys in january so this was before they were signed to anything and thats when they started to get the buzz on the internet. so i dont think it's fair to say it's all about street teams and record companies etc. this is something that was started by the fans.

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i repeat: who do you think started the buzz on the internet? it wasn't fans because at that time they didn't have any.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I trust my judgements enough to not worry too much about marketing strategies. I hear the AMs; I like them, or I don't - why should the mechanics behind me hearing them and making that decision be allowed to affect that decision?

This kind of marketing is about accelerating processes more than creating them, anyway: if the Arctic Monkeys weren't the right product for their target market, the street teams wouldn't do so well.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

um, people who saw them play live obviously talked about them online. i used to post on the libertines message board and people were going ape shit over them 6 months ago. i suspect the same happened on other message boards for similar bands/music. that's how it started.

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link

6 months ago...make that 10 months ago

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link

and wasn't zane low playing them on the radio 10/12 months back too. radio != internet (as yet)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

he musth have. he picks up on anything as soon as a small uk indie band gets talked about on the internet or is mentioned in the press.

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link

why dont you all just shutup

― terry, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:50 (eighteen years ago) link

yes, people should stop talking about them.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:29 (eighteen years ago) link

wasn't it useful that the internet buzz over the arctic monkeys started on the libertines message board?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I dont know if started there....but of course it was useful

so what?

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Just how powerful is an indie label's street team that it can sell out tours before the band have had a record out - months, in fact, before the label has actually signed them? Hype only works when publicity outstrips actual access to material but anyone with P2P can have 20+ Arctic Monkeys songs in minutes because they made them all freely available on their website. If there's a buzz it's just because people like the songs. How on earth can this be phony hype?

― Dorian Lynskey, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Tough call for the street team. One the one hand they want to proclaim their success, adding "As successfully utilised by the Arctic Monkeys", and yet on the other have to go round various internet boards saying "this is something that was started by the fans. "

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

BECAUSE THIS IS ILM AND PRINCESS DIANA ISN'T EVEN ACTUALLY DEAD.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

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they're finished aren't they?

a member quits and the new single isn't NME single of the week!

there's a very quick turnover in your modern pop game.

― pisces (piscesx), Monday, 17 July 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

lol at people talking about Test Icicles as if they were gonna be big upthread.

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Weren't they big upthread?

― Mark G, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Upthread Ranking

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

With the exception of Goldie Lookin' Chain, Test Icicles are the worst band currently releasing records.
-- Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:13 (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

Ah, for the innocence of days before New Young Pony Club

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

lol at me not liking them very much upthread.

― pisces, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

lightspeed champion, though - he's rather good.

― CharlieNo4, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

monkeys are the most visible of the current glut of northern uncle toms. enough already with the meat pie rock n roll.

― s.rose, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link

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