Let us praise (or not, if you're mean) Duran Duran's "Hold Back the Rain"

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Have you seen the video for "The Chauffeur", btw? I figure any red-blooded hetero male would absolutely go wild for it, because of its subtle sexual overtones.

You know, I thought it would be great, but it just kind of creeped me out. "Girls on Film" at least offered exactly that, this one had women playing pattycake... Still, the song is good!

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 5 December 2003 04:56 (twenty years ago) link

great! hopefully the box set will have some other surprises in store for you.

I actually think it'd be fantastic to hear the "alternate slow mix" of "Faith In This Colour" in CD format. In crystal-clear CD format. In "it was probably remastered" CD format. Same goes for "Faster Than Light".

You know, I thought it would be great, but it just kind of creeped me out.

What element of the video freaked you out? I'm not confused here -- I was just wondering whether you'd mention the things most people would mention.

As for "Girls On Film" -- you call mud wrestling topless "playing pattycake"? Or is there a part of the video I'm not remembering? Because I remember the pillow fight, the massage session, the bit with the lifeguard and the kiddy pool, the horse-riding session, and either the mud wrestling match and the ensuing hosedown (in that uncensored version) or the little danceathon thingy (in that censored version).

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 5 December 2003 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

btw, fortunate hazel, I'll have you know that I've played that version of "My Own Way" at least three additional times since I dl'ed it.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 5 December 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link

subtle sexual overtones.

By that, you mean LEZZING UP?

THAT Kate (kate), Friday, 5 December 2003 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

By that, you mean LEZZING UP?

*snorts and nods* Mm hmm. But it's not totally overt -- I mean, they're not exactly going at it in the video. They're just... dancing. Seductively. While looking at each other. While... ah, I'm just going to ruin that scene for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, so I'll just quit while I'm ahead.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 5 December 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

My comment was in reference to "The Chaffeur", not "Girls on Film". You could desscribe things in "Girls on Film" as playing pattycake, but they actually play pattycake in "The Chaffeur"!

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 5 December 2003 16:23 (twenty years ago) link

To paraphrase Derek & Clive, the full video (now available on DVD) of "Girls on Film" give me the horn!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 5 December 2003 19:46 (twenty years ago) link

Out of the more obscure album tracks (not that, although not a single, I don't consider fan favourite "The Chauffeur" - my fave track by Duran Duran - "obscure") that I really love is "Lonely In Your Nightmare". But, in fact, all the tracks on "Rio" are great, which also includes "Hold Back The Rain".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 5 December 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
I finally got my LP copy of Rio having traded away my original copy many years ago, and I *cannot* believe how trebly it sounds! I just don't remember the album sounding like this. The upper mids and treble are so aggressive I can't even turn the volume up very loud or it gets irritating. Does the CD sound like this?

Sean (Sean), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

Probably. Hm...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 January 2004 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
I listened to "Hold Back The Rain" (the 6'24" Kershenbaum mix edit version thank you) four times in a row this morning.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Not a word of Ned's description is less than apt. The multi-tracked Chorus of Le Bon-Bons at the conclusion is a bad-idea-turned-good that the Killers should study.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Great song, although I like "Lonely In Your Nightmare" better out of the non-singles (and "The Chauffeur", but that song is sort of a recognized classic in spite of its non-single status, and certainly not quite as obscure)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 31 July 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

And now I just realised I made almost exactly the same post two and a half years ago. Oh well....

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 31 July 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Not a word of Ned's description is less than apt. The multi-tracked Chorus of Le Bon-Bons at the conclusion is a bad-idea-turned-good that the Killers should study.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (soto.alfre...), July 31st, 2006.

Yes. Following that they should study music or hire some people who have the ability to play music to write and perform some songs. Then they'd be, like, totally awesome and stuff.

Mallory L . O'Donnell (That Bitch Camille), Monday, 31 July 2006 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Inspired by this, I have played said long remix for the first time in a while. Jesus H. this is one of the best things ever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Any love for Last Chance On The Stairway? IMO the best track off Rio, an already brilliant album. The bridge is one of the great moments on 80's pop

It could be the end as we're sinking
Ooh, I don't know what you're thinking
I don't even know what you're drinking
But it keeps this heaven alive

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I tear up when I hear those verses.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Good song, though it never quite dug as deep with me as "New Religion" if we're talking album cuts. (Take as given that the singles off Rio are incandescent by default.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

To which Ned credits the dialogue between his ego and alter ego.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Me, myself and the tragic story. (The last part being why "Hold Back..." isn't the number one song everywhere.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

The ones I love from that album I are Rio, Hold Back The Rain (considering how much I adore the album version, how much will I like the 12"?), New Religion, LCOTS and The Chauffeur, so basically this thread has been one long OTM. Re: Ned's comments that he was 12 when he first heard it, I was possibly even younger, and indeed tracks like New Religion, with its eerie keyboards and clashing riff, lodged themselves into my head that much more easily on account of my formative age. It's long been a favourite record of mine.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Hold Back The Rain (considering how much I adore the album version, how much will I like the 12"?)

Think of the 12" as the perfection of what the album version drives at.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 01:30 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

"And if the fires burn out
There's only FIRE TO BLAME!"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Bimble is drunk and bimble loves this song forever. Amen.

Larry-O-Stab, Stereolab (Bimble), Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:23 (fifteen years ago) link

(Well, should be 'stars burn out' but I prefer that take.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Ned sounds like he's hammered too!

Yeah, um, I can't say enough about this tune. When I finally bought Rio in '93 or thereabouts I was amazed by how insistently it demanded your attention.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 18 January 2009 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

The song is Simon's warning to John!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 18 January 2009 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Duran Duran was always awful and saying otherwise is futile yearning for one's childhood

even the "good" DD songs are totally pukeful

J0hn D., Sunday, 18 January 2009 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

not that I don't love them

J0hn D., Sunday, 18 January 2009 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I only got into Duran Duran off the back of Red Carpet Massacre, so that's your theory debunked mr futile yearning.

open wide, come inside, it's apple butter (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 18 January 2009 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link

That's a neat clip up there.

The Undead Look (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:13 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Finally got hold of the Rio volume in the Classic Albums DVD series.

The seventeen minute "US night mix version #574" is still the best ever.

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, maybe the 13 minute "Italo morning mix version #173" is

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

There's an awesome version on Spotify which is 6.38 in length; is this the one Ned's talking about? Or is he waxing on a 7-minute version?

cumlord smedley (country matters), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

ok the whole album is amazing but the more i think about it, the more 'hold back the rain' and 'last chance on the stairway' reveal themselves as not just the dependable momentum-sustaining mood-enhancers but the crucial parts of the piece. like, i'd initially thought of them not as the 'main event' tracks but as very, very good filler, but for some reason this has mutated into them being both very, very good filler and the best songs on the album (and two of the best songs of the era)

welcome new ilxors (acoleuthic), Saturday, 21 November 2009 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link

"Last Chance..." actually boasts decent lyrics! By which I mean the "it could be the atmosphere sinking" part.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 November 2009 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link

that bit is showstopping

welcome new ilxors (acoleuthic), Saturday, 21 November 2009 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

This is the best Duran song ever. Sorry for finding this thread just now.

zeus, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

No need to apologize.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

It is a great song, but out of the "Rio" non-single album tracks (besides "The Chauffeur", which is widely recognized as a classic by a lot of people anyway), I feel like "Lonely In Your Nightmare" is the real underrated gem there.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Looks like I said roughly the same thing 8 years ago. Oh well. Still standing for it. :) Anyway, all "Rio" tracs are great. :)

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

US night mix is the greatest thing ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NrKxtI6H2s

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 2 April 2015 10:45 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I have a lot of time for this song. Probably even more for 'Last Chance On The Stairway', actually.


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