The Cranes: c or d?

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Then clearly it is inferior.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

I would describe it as proto-Korn metal (only good) with a pissed-off Strawberry Shortcake coming down off of a PCP binge on vocals.

I am sad that this description hasn't made anyone go, "Oh, I know that song, it's '_______'."

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe it was "Inescapable" or something. Hm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:37 (twenty years ago) link

Cranes are wonderful, and they're from my area of England too! I feel so proud.

Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:11 (twenty years ago) link

Yay! I do like the fact that they're still going, because generally speaking I like bands who just keep on keeping on without turning into bad blues cover bands or something. Perhaps.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:14 (twenty years ago) link

Heh, I'll have to dissagree with you there Ned. Their last album was rather disapointing, for one thing. Maybe they'll improve, but I doubt it. I wish they (and a lot of bands, actually) would just quit while they're ahead.

Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:31 (twenty years ago) link

Their last album was rather disapointing, for one thing.

Wah!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:34 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry, it is. It doesn't even compare to their early stuff. They've lost it.

Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:37 (twenty years ago) link

Nah, I just like the way they find a new calm, it's very entrancing. To be sure, I was also just happy to see them back, and the various reports of the live shows in the States made me most jealous.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:38 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
Yay! New album details!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link

the new mùm sounds a bit like the cranes.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread has reminded me that I interviewed Alison Shaw and wrote a whole article about the Cranes, like 11 years ago. I had completely forgotten that. (Forgotten her name, too, until I just went and looked it up.) I don't even remember what they sound like, beyond some blurry guitars and gauzy vocals.

spittle (spittle), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought the were called The Appalling Cranes? Or was that an NME joke?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Any BANG BANG MACHINE fans get in touch!
WHO KILLED BANG BANG MACHINE?

Leigh Smith, Thursday, 8 September 2005 11:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I would describe it as proto-Korn metal (only good) with a pissed-off Strawberry Shortcake coming down off of a PCP binge on vocals.

ATTENTION ILM: Please help me identify this song! Is it "Inescapable", as Ned suggests?

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I know which song you are talking about and still remember them playing it on the Wish tour. It's off "Self Non Self" but right now I can't remember the title.

Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Thursday, 8 September 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it might be "Heaven or Bliss" or "Beach Mover"?

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link

It's all these things and more!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

it's probably "lilies" although i don't think that's on self-non-self... loved, i think.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

How was that last alnum? Any good? In the 'Future Songs' vein?

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked it. I've got a review on the AMG...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anyone else hear a bit of the Cranes in Gang Gang Dance? Or am I the only one in the entire world who does (as I suspect...)?

Jon Benet Taxidermy (piratestyle), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

sounds like jewel. too bad, it's such a great band name.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

and, the capsules sound just like this band it's ridiculous.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

but I've only listened to future songs.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I would describe it as proto-Korn metal (only good) with a pissed-off Strawberry Shortcake coming down off of a PCP binge on vocals.

ATTENTION ILM: Please help me identify this song! Is it "Inescapable", as Ned suggests?

It might also be "Give" (off the Inescapable EP) which I remember being a set-closer around the same time.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
In the WTF news of the day -- the Cranes (who are on myspace, but o' course) just sent this around as a bulletin:

Cranes song 'Astronauts' from the 'Particles and Waves' album is going to be included in the opening show for the American Super Bowl ! It's on Sunday 5th February and the song will appear during a pre-taped opening tease featuring athletes and actors reciting lines from Dr. Seuss' "Oh, The Places You'll Go."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:44 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
WTF!!! How did I miss that??

Anyway, I've been digging out old Cranes albums recently and I've realized that 'Loved' thoroughly owns the rest of their output.

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

YES IT DOES

BTW, has anyone definitively figured out which song I was talking about upthread?

I would describe it as proto-Korn metal (only good) with a pissed-off Strawberry Shortcake coming down off of a PCP binge on vocals.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

My favourite Cranes story: when working at the record store one night (possibly a MOLTEN METAL MONDAY) with my friend STV we played some Cranes and a customer yelled "HEY! THIS SOUNDS LIKE MUSIC TO SAW YOUR ARMS OFF TO!" at us from across the store.

amazing ^

I've been playing Forever and Loved all day over here, great fucking albums.

stephen, Thursday, 22 May 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

This is the band with that horrible female singer isn't it? I'm with Dr. C on that. Never could stand them for a second, though I certainly met plenty of folks who liked them. I'm surprised they weren't lumped in with the shoegazing thing more, as it seems to me they started in that era, right?

Bimble, Thursday, 22 May 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuck, I found the song I was looking for at one point but now I can't remember what it ended up being. (It definitely predates "Lillies".)

HI DERE, Thursday, 22 May 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

The mystery song. I say just drop the band a line or something.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 May 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

This is the band with that horrible female singer isn't it?

I think her voice works a lot better with the dense, heavy, layered songs with plenty of bass. Provides a nice contrast to her wispy, sometimes admittedly grating voice. Whereas, wispy song + wispy voice never worked quite so well for me, with this band.

stephen, Thursday, 22 May 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^^ pretty much OTM, they worked much better when they maximized density (which is why Loved is so much better than the rest of their albums).

HI DERE, Thursday, 22 May 2008 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Not sure I totally agree with this. Some of their wispier stuff, eg. 'Paris and Rome', 'Cloudless', is pretty amazing.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Incidentally, my 50-year-old mother (whose favorite artists are Rascal Flatts, Sugarland, Coldplay and a wide array of contemporary Christian pop/rock) heard a Cranes album in my car this morning (Forever) and *loved* it, especially Alison Shaw's "amazing voice" -- go figure?

(Now then, Bimble, if she can get into it...)

stephen, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

"So Mom, you might like 'Starblood'..."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I think "Starblood" was the song I was looking for...? I need to see if I have a copy of it somewhere.

HI DERE, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah I'm pretty sure Starblood was that song. That was the highlight of their show on that 1992 Wish tour.

baaderonixx, Saturday, 24 May 2008 08:16 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Been listening to Wings of Joy a lot lately, "Starblood" is incredible as is the rest of the record.

Also, THIS EP COLLECTION IS AMAZING:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416G2QWQJQL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

A handful of the very best tracks from Wings of Joy, Forever and Loved, plus a ton of early Cranes highlights, EP only material and stuff that's otherwise only available on vinyl. I'm hard pressed to name a bad track on here. LOOOOOOVE.

stephen, Thursday, 12 June 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's a good comp. Never got it cause I had pretty much all the singles and could burn my own version of it (in fact that's a good idea).

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 June 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

New album out next week, you crazy goths.

NickB, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

YOU GUYS

IT WAS "STARBLOOD"

CONFIRMED FACT

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Said new album is quite excellent, BTW -- it's easily the most easygoing of their albums yet but the feeling is one of the goth stormclouds hovering high above while the keyboard-led arrangements and gentler performances suggest things like the High Llamas, Young Marble Giants, Broadcast a bit, some minimal techno...it's a nice blend.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 October 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Tempted to get this. I assume it's very much in the vein of their last two releases?

baaderonixx, Monday, 27 October 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, but even more restrained -- it's the keyboards rather than the drums or guitars that provide a lot of the focus this time out, but there's that same sense of rhythmic undertow and slightly ominous edge. But what's nice is that it doesn't feel any less like a Cranes album for that reason. As Alison's voice is unchanged and Jim clearly still listens out for that sense of rhythm and focus first and foremost, it's a very natural course to take.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 October 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Why do people hate Population 4? I have all their albums excpet the french concept album((always too expensive)) and while Population 4 is not one of their best,, it has not one bad song and "Sweet Unknown" is arguably their best song,, I think that the This Mortal Coil follow-up Hope Blister covered it and I'm glad that someone else thought that song was special.

Its one of those songs you'll never forget the first time you heard it,, Cranes have had me in pain with the incredible sad beauty of songs like "Tommorrows Tears" and "Paris and Rome",, but with "Sweet Unknown",, it made me feel a way I've never been made to feel by ANYTHING in art or life in general..... I'm a decent person with a pretty clear conscious,,, but that song sounded so astoundingly beautiful and pure that I felt a bit of a shabby person and it made me want to be a better person. WOW!!!

Play that song to a saint and theyll cry and promise to be a better person(((I'm not saying I'm a saint))).

As much as I love Slowdive and Chapterhouse and other bands of that era/scene,, I often think Cranes are better because they are just so incredibly unique that you feel greatful that they exist. If Slowdive did not exist I'm sure someone else would have done something similar to fill that void((not an insult,, I love them to pieces)),, but Cranes worringly could easily never have existed. Scary thought for me.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 14 March 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I played Population 4 once and thought it was the most boring, self-indulgent music I'd ever heard (and I own multiple Sky Cries Mary albums).

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Saturday, 14 March 2009 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Yer welcome

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 May 2023 19:19 (ten months ago) link

four months pass...

Forever anniversary gig is tonight. I probably should have listened to the album before coming because it's years since I've listened to it, have mostly listened to their early stuff recently

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 14 October 2023 18:44 (six months ago) link

Jealous

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 14 October 2023 19:23 (six months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DfXd2PsSsM

MaresNest, Sunday, 22 October 2023 12:49 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

And a new reissue here: Fuse, on vinyl for the first time as well:

https://cranes.bandcamp.com/album/fuse

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:14 (two months ago) link

I never thought this would be reissued

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 20:41 (two months ago) link

Really remarkable to see it. I think any further reissues after that would have to go through Cherry Red because I gather they have access to the Dedicated releases (which explains the Chapterhouse box from the other year), but I think that's still in the works. We'll see what follows next!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 20:50 (two months ago) link

Really excited to see them in May

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 21:39 (two months ago) link


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