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Space-jazz-rock-tronic
If rednecks didn't like them
They'd be Kraftwerk-hip

Geddyvox

Less boy or girl than
Alien; Precise
Enunciation

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link

fact checkin cuz to thread

― sleep (sleep), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Songs(works) and arrangements: Classic
Lyrics and vocals: Dud

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Rush probably more than any other band....I don't think there BETTER than alot of bands, but they were a big part of my childhood....

Great band, I think.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Young Black Teenagers
Seeking the phattest of shit
Sample Tom Sawyer

― dlp9001, Saturday, 9 October 2004 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link

has anyone seen the episode of "trailer park boys" where they kidnap alex liefson?
i gained new respect for the man after watching that.

― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I have no haiku to offer which I why I didn't say anything before. But great, of course.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

i was at a party with some guys who were really entranced with some kind of video of stevie ray vaughn stranglin' the blues back in the '80s. doo-rags. these guys were such geeks, glued to the tube while there were girls to hit on and barbecue to scarf. then they got into "moving pictures," talking about the "production values" and saying things like "you can't deny the musicianship," while trying to be "ironic" about the whole stinkin' thing. typical night with people in nashville trying to be hip about not being hip or whatever that convolution is. then, everyone got drunk the host attempted to explain the shaggs to these geeks and everyone *listened hard and they got it*!! ahh. so, rush sucks and that's it, that's just like being "ironic" about kiss or worryin' about montgomery gentry, i think (as in the video where that goober takes off his cowboy hat to reveal an expensive-looking doo-rag/headwrap of some kind), and only the man upstairs can say whether rush is great or not...yes, rush did a record of covers i understand includes a version of eddie cochran's summertime blues done like blue cheer! so, they have roots like the rest of us, cuz.

― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

worst. voice. ever.

― oops (Oops), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No, that is Brian Johnson, Robert Plant or Bruce Dickinson. But Geddy Lee's voice is not far behind.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

As a band: dud. As a rite of passage: classic.
-- scott p (scot...), June 21st, 2001.

the wisdom in this succinct observation is humid. i loved rush until i discovered indie and punk rock in high school. hearing that particularly melodramatic cut "the trees" (i think that's the title) is still powerfully evocative of my 13-15 years, playing D&D, obsessing about securing issue # 202 of Spiderman, and committing to memory SNL lines. so i'll grant my meaningless benediction upon Rush in the same manner as the astute scott p.

― j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Sunday, 10 October 2004 02:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Rush: Sophomore Lit.
texts become some deep and
meaningful lyrics.

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

"Red Barchetta" plays
on radio, Rush fan gets
a speeding ticket.

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Fans debate how to
say Peart. Does it sound like "pert"?
No, it rhymes with "near".

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Here: Rush's real names
Alex Zivojinovic
Gary Lee Weinrib

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

hahaha

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic.

NEER-neer-neener-neener
NEE nee nerr
NEER-neer-neener-neener...

That's my "Tom Sawyer" tribute. They should have collaborated with Gary Numan. Maybe there's still time.

― Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link

They sort of define dud, don't they?

― Burr (Burr), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

They define "dude," as in, one kid goes, "Dude, check out Neil's drum solo." Other kid nods in appreciation: "Duuuuuuude." I guess with each passing year I like them less than I did when I was 15, but I still wonder what people who dislike them aren't hearing. Maybe they haven't heard "Natural Science," or "Hemispheres," or "The Camera Eye." I guess Geddy's voice can be annoying but so can Neil Young's and Johnny Rotten's.

― clark, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Canadian crap
You hosers should have stayed home
why why oh god why?

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Rush shall be absolved
of all sonic crimes because
"Working Man" kicks ass

― Will (will), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

rickenbacker bass
slingerland and tama drums
gibsons for alex

(uh, not that i knew very much about 'em)

― naturalaw-dp, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Second-string classic
opening for Aerosmith.
As headliner, dud.

― briania (briania), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Anthem, In the End
Best I Can and Bastille Day
-songs neil ain't write, joe

― naturalaw-dp, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

A sad but true fact :
No women, none, anywhere
Are fans of Rush. None.

― udu wudu (udu wudu), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Geddy had the suaveness:
'Hey baby, the hour is late, I
feel I've got to groove'

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Geddy got his name
When his immigrant mother
Mispronounced "Gary"

I do enjoy them
Since, unlike so much prog-rock
They have some real hooks.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Read an interview
Where Peart described some of his
Practice methods. Wow.

And I don't mean to
Be facetious. That stuff was
Cool to a young me.

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

2112 rocks.
Dude, A Passage to Bangkok
is in 7/8.

― darin (darin), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Band denies, but we
know what "Passage To Bangkok"
is really about.

― Edward Bax, Thursday, 21 October 2004 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Who in the hell messed
up the production on the
Vapor Trails LP?

― Edward Bax, Thursday, 21 October 2004 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Went to a Rush show,
the first ten rows were filled with
teen boys air drumming.

― Edward Bax, Friday, 22 October 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"Dude, if you like Rush,
you will love Dream Theater!"
"No, I don't think so."

― Edward Bax, Friday, 22 October 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

we know many scales
watch us play pretentious shit
please, we are the Rush

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 22 October 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

'Passage to Bangkok':
Peart plays that 'oriental theme'
on tuned percussion

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Friday, 22 October 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

My first rock concert
Peart's solo is awesome; pot smoke
wafting through the air

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Friday, 22 October 2004 00:06 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

how can you go wrong
with the dubious ayn rand-
influenced lyrics?

― amateur!!st, Friday, 12 November 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link

just heard "overture/
temples of syrinx" online
on knac

oh my fucking god
i mean, oh my fucking god
oh my fucking god

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 12 November 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

i see my friends clock
made from the power windows
picture disc, fucks sake!

― bg, Friday, 12 November 2004 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Naked dude learns
Guitar, like that! Has bummer:
Life blood spills over

______________________

Look at videos
The Trees to Power Windows
Geddy has nose job

― Mehama Mama, Friday, 12 November 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Recently, I've been listening more to stuff from the post-synthpop lightly-funky-math-AOR/dadrock phase that basically seems to run from the late 80s until the present day, which was the first stuff by them I ever heard and which (embarrassingly? I dunno) stirred me as a preteen. There's something to be said for this period. The grand sentimental statements and the quirkily wordy and quasi-intellectual lyrics actually come together in a way that makes it less corny than it could be. There's a lot to listen to in the playing and production that accompanies the broad melodies (which I realize a lot of people find cheesy and/or 'inert' in Martin Popoff's words); the solos tend to be elegant in their conciseness. It's kinda proto-DMB in a way but not in a bad way as such. I really like "The Pass".

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 13 November 2004 05:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Presto was pretty great. I never bought it -- in fact, when it came out I felt as though I was more or less "over" Rush. But these dudes I used to hang out with in high school bought it when it came out and used to play it constantly; we all used to congregate at these dudes' house after school and play Euchre and drink beer and basically fuck around until we had to go home to eat dinner with the folks. Anyway, these guys bought Presto and played it all the time, and though I wasn't as big a Rush-head as I had been just a scant few years prior, I had to admit that the thing sounded pretty good. Like, they were kind of rocking out again. "Show Don't Tell" has an awesome structure; still love that one. I remember "Superconductor" had a real hot riff to it. I don't remember "The Pass" though, I'll have to seek that one out.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 13 November 2004 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link

It's kind of a really sappy ballad. You might not like it. (Pre-chorus to chorus goes something like "Now you're standing on a rocky ledge/Staring out into a heartless sea/Can't waste time on the razor's edge/Nothing's what you thought it would be/All of us get lost in the darkness/Dreamers try to live by the stars/All of us do time in the gutter/Dreamers learn to steer by the cars/Turn around and walk the razor's edge/Don't turn your back and slam the door on me" if that rings any bells). "Show Don't Tell" is cool, yeah.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 13 November 2004 05:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Dud. Can I do a limerick instead of a haiku, 'cause that's what I got.

There once was a Canuck named Geddy,
Who sang in voice nasal and heady,
His pretensions grand
plus ideas from Ayn Rand
Cause my gastric juices to eddy.

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 13 November 2004 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Did anyone get Rush In Rio? How is it?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 13 November 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I really like "The Pass".

I did too a lot at the time -- you have inspired me, I am listening to Presto for the first time in who knows how long. (The start to "Show Don't Tell" is a freakin' treble-fest.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 November 2004 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually now it seems like the whole album is. What were they on?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 November 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, the pun of the title of "Anagram (For Mongo)" makes me want to hurt someone. (Flipside: I do enjoy that the album was "brought to you by the letter 'D'")

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 November 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha, and the instrumental break with the synth on "Superconductor" actually makes me think of the Chameleons!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 November 2004 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Rush was awesome the more new wave they got.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 13 November 2004 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

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(Whereas Phil was largely a teetotaler).

Maybe with coke but he was apparently hitting the weed pretty heavily back in the day, plus his notorious problems with alcohol.

― dinnerboat, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 15:58 (four months ago) link

Imagine getting high with Tony Banks

― sophie glanced up, looking concerned (Matt #2), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 16:39 (four months ago) link

cool he can be insufferable at a higher tempo

― STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:39 (four months ago) link

I think Phil's drinking problem came much, much later, like after he had (first) retired and had too much time and money.

I found the Curve/Lush quote btw!

For the opening track, 'Animate,' for instance, I used a basic R&B rhythm that I played back in my early days, coupled with that hypnotic effect that a lot of the British bands of the turn of the 90's had - bands like Curve and Lush. The middle section of the tune is the result of the impact African music has had on me, although it wasn't a specific African rhythm. I hear a section of a tune, and immediately I have to make choices, and many times those world influences I talked about earlier will come into play and contribute to my parts.

I can ... kind of hear it? Fwiw, I remember seeing Curve with Steve Monti and his playing made a big impression on me.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:50 (four months ago) link

the biggest Rush fan I know is also a big Curve fan, so this makes lots of sense to me

― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:53 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

The Geddy book is *great.*

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 January 2024 14:12 (three months ago) link

Yeah I need to get that. Too much backlog!

The Lush/Curve detail above, I like that. (I'm kinda not surprised at a Curve/Rush fan continuum, Dean Garcia being such a studio hound in the best sense.)

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 January 2024 19:04 (three months ago) link

I'm going to publish my suspicion that there will be some musical project to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the first album.

― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 January 2024 19:15 (three months ago) link

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