Where do I go from there tho? It seems thay're totally different every record they make, which is thoroughly commendable but not a little daunting.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:55 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 12:03 (twenty years ago) link
The word "heavy" has come up a lot here, and the other thread talked about "groove". The earlier boredoms had their moments of these, but would subvert the expectations these set up rather than run with them, as the more recent boredoms do. I can see why the latter might make for a more "enjoyable" listening experience. But the earlier boredoms has its own pleasures, even if they aren't related to coherence. My own feeling listening to those records is that they are like a huge disorganized messy pile of brilliant half-realized things. I'd say Chocolate Synthesizer is the apex of this. And it somehow manages to be idiotic and cerebral, funny and serious, arty and artless all at once.
The "new" boredoms go to the opposite extreme--monomaniacal intensity--which somehow makes perfect sense to me. There's an extremity and obsession in ALL their "phases", which give their stylistic shifts a coherence below their surfaces.
So, yes, some of their recordings on their own are probably worth searching over others (I'll defer to above recommendations), but this is also a band that can be appreciated in its totality and (for me, at least) transcends an easy accounting by search and destroy.
― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:19 (twenty years ago) link
I assume you're talking about "Super Going", that guitar tone & the Moonian cymbal wash -- that's one of my favorite tracks on the album. But then, I like Tommy too, so hey.
― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 30 May 2003 13:17 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 14:03 (twenty years ago) link
But that's part of why it's so great!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 May 2003 14:13 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 14:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 30 May 2003 15:01 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Friday, 30 May 2003 15:09 (twenty years ago) link
the splinter band with EY3 and Y0shimi is known as either V00redoms or 7v07 depending on the amount of drums or electronics or DJ-ing is involved. EY3 has been DJ-ing all over Japan in the last month, Yoshimi has SAIC0BABA and her okinowan/hawaiian hardcore band SUNPM0:00oo, and OoioO is currently on hiatus.
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 30 May 2003 15:35 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 30 May 2003 15:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 30 May 2003 15:38 (twenty years ago) link
Really? But what about (for instance) their appearance at All Tomorrow's Parties L.A. last year? That wasn't "The Boredoms"?
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 30 May 2003 15:40 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 30 May 2003 15:51 (twenty years ago) link
And as for early Boredoms, the reason I'm a bit biased and ignore this material despite later albums being some of my faves is because the first Boredoms record I ever bought was Super Roots 1 about 4-5 years ago. I knew nothing about it, vaguely recalled some Boredoms hype, and bought it because it was cheap. Damn near put me off on the Boredoms forevar. Felt like I was on the receiving end of some prank they'd pulled.
Prob. a little silly to still have this bias but I'm a small man!
― original bgm, Friday, 30 May 2003 16:33 (twenty years ago) link
― original bgm, Friday, 30 May 2003 16:42 (twenty years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 31 May 2003 11:40 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Saturday, 31 May 2003 15:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 1 June 2003 18:08 (twenty years ago) link
― die9o (dhadis), Monday, 2 June 2003 13:01 (twenty years ago) link
WOW2 has just been released in the UK, but i'd stear clear if you're not a fan of Onanie Bomb or Soul Discharge.
Does an UNKLE Rebore megamix really exist? This sounds horrid.
― ss, Monday, 2 June 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Monday, 2 June 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link
How are the Boredoms regarded in Japan? Are they music superstars, a national treasure? Is Eye a media hero? (Without knowing, I would guess that they must have, at the very least, the status that Sonic Youth has in the U.S. - if not even more exposure/popularity/"institutional" respect.)
I'm surprised that they couldn't get anything released that they wanted to release.
― Sam J. (samjeff), Monday, 2 June 2003 17:00 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 2 June 2003 17:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Monday, 2 June 2003 17:15 (twenty years ago) link
― ss, Monday, 2 June 2003 17:19 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 2 June 2003 17:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 2 June 2003 21:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 2 June 2003 21:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 2 June 2003 21:43 (twenty years ago) link
has some good stuff too
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:49 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:50 (twenty years ago) link
Oh I meant to ask, does anyone have any of the super lush Japanese imports like the copy of Super AE that supposedly has some multi- coloured liquid inside the sleeve?
― ss, Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:00 (twenty years ago) link
They've all pretty much been reissued on Zorn's label now so shouldn't be that hard to find in the States.
??? hmm
there were 10,000 of super ARE (neon green puffy vinyl with clear liquid) and 10,000 of super GO (red puffy vinyl with clear liquid). check jetset for occasional boredoms rarities.
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:16 (twenty years ago) link
― ss, Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:24 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
Yeah around 1998 or so Amoeba in SF had like three copies of every Boredoms release for about $5 each. That was my intro -- I picked up the first Super Roots after reading about them in the Spin guide. Didn't care for it.
Here's an honest question for the Boredoms fans: What do you think their standing would be if they'd broken up before Super Roots 7 or Super Ae?
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:49 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:57 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 18:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:18 (twenty years ago) link
― die9o (dhadis), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:26 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 07:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 07:55 (twenty years ago) link
Also worth tracking down are the singles that preceded Super ARe and VCN. They are "Super Go!!!" and "Vision Creation Newsun". Confusingly, the latter has the same name as the album but is a forty minute ep with an edit of the first track on VCN, a pretty good remix of stuff from that album, and a phenomenal live track that they played under a solar eclipse in '99. Forced Exposure is selling it (and copies of Super Roots 5 and 8, apparently).
If you can track down "Super Go" on vinyl, the b-side (different from the 2nd track on the CD version) is also really good. Though to be fair, it's a longer mix of the song that appears as "Super Now" on the comp CD that commemorated the 2002 All Tomorrow's Parties in LA. So if you have that, you probably don't need to spend the $20 or whatever...
― die9o (dhadis), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 14:36 (twenty years ago) link
What is SR5 like?
Which places carry DJ Pica Pica Pica?
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:57 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 16:11 (twenty years ago) link
i don't like VCN, it sounds like what oasis are gonna be doing in 10 years― gi66y, Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:24 AM (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
hilarious. i wish
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link
The question is, was that a truly steaming take in 2003 or something it was possible to reasonably conceive of.
― LTJ Jenkem (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link
No. Not at all conceivable.
― Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
Listening to Schumann’s Rhenish Symphony: “ah this is what 100 gecs will sound like in 10 years”.
― Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link
VCN is the greatest album ever made
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Monday, 11 October 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link
checks out
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 11 October 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
yes
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 11 October 2021 22:21 (two years ago) link
Thirded
― And of course the worms! (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:48 (two years ago) link