Who is the most offensive band 20th Century popular music?

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surely this is MUCH worse than Eminem using the word "fag" ?!?

In principle, yes of course, but this only works if Mayhem have/had the huge global (pop-)cultural impact as Eminem. Which they don't, obviously.

Charlie (Charlie), Thursday, 23 January 2003 04:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who is the most offensive band in 20th Century popular music?

Philip Glass Ensemble, hands down.

hstencil, Thursday, 23 January 2003 06:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

2 Live Jews

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 07:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Beatles. Until there's mass record-burnings of any other band, I think they win

dave q, Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

the Peter Brothers used to do mass record burnings all the time though, didn't they?

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

whoever did the version of 'gloomy sunday' that caused all the hubbub maybe

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've got a picture of the Peters Bros. burning copies of the Cars' 'Candy-O'! I wonder what they objected to? Perhaps the Manichean heresy of "Double Life", or the cavalier handling of predestination in "Dangerous Type"?

dave q, Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

'Candy gives you cavities! The Cars are trying to pervert our childrens teeth!'

Is Candy-O the one with the Vargas cover, because that probably would've been enough

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Cars are trying to pervert our childrens teeth!'

See: R. Kelly, Chocolate Factory

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

No-one's yet mentioned Throbbing Gristle, "the wreckers of civilisation".

Jason J, Thursday, 23 January 2003 10:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Granted, disco is not a "band", but with Disco Demolition Night in 1979, about 10,000 or more disco records were blown up at Comiskey Park.

Who gets to decide what's offensive? Appealing to all genders, races, classes and orientations was definitely too much for a lot of people to handle.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

...so clearly my vote goes to K.C. & the Sunshine Band.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

HA, R. Kelly is a great answer as far as his kiddy-fiddling is concerned.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

GnR at the peak of their bombast? Otherwise I'm with Q on the Beatles drop.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

kiddy-fiddling

I get this image of him putting strings on a kid and playing it with his bow. *hides*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

GnR at the peak of their bombast?

That was offensive?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was thinking in particular of the rioting. There were one or two offended people around at that time I reckon. And all that shit about the lyrics to 'Patience'.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

"One in a Million."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah. That's the badger.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't think they ever came close to pissing off as many people as the Rolling Stones have (though admittedly they had much less time to do it in), but the Sex Pistols seem like the obvious answer. I can't think of many bands that were attacked and slashed with razors on the streets because of one of their songs. In The Filth and the Fury they show that London councilor who says that "most of these punk groups would be vastly improved by sudden death" and calls the Pistols "the antithesis of humankind." I think my jaw literally dropped when I saw that. Eminem may offend a lot of people, but I can't imagine any U.S. politician calling for his death.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

disco - the ChiSox had to forfeit the game.

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I can't think of many bands that were attacked and slashed with razors on the streets because of one of their songs."

It wasn't just the band, Sex Pistols *FANS* were attacked in the streets; and not even just by young hard cases either - I was even spat at in broad daylight in the middle of the high street of my home town in 1977 by some sweet little old dear who could have been my grandmother, just because I had a GSTQ T-shirt on.

Not the most offensive band in 20th Century music maybe, but they sure did seem to upset an awful lot of people at the time.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

How about Stravinsky's _Rites of Spring_ (assuming it's post-1900)? It caused riots when first performed...

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Causing riots and pissing off politicians and old ladies is too easy to qualify

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

the pistols of course dissed the queen ("they called our sovereign a moron" etc etc) which plays well in the UK but raises not a murmur outside

stewart his name was BERNARD BROOKE-PARTRIDGE: age 16 i committed it to the black book of my year-zero mind as a capital offence against punk — he actually died very shortly after (though not i hasten to add as a result of anything i had done...)

the story of the rites of spring riots is very questionable: there was definitely a big noisy fuss at the first performance (at a vanue notorious for its let's-fuck-stuff-up audiences), but strav himself always noted that this was the ONLY ruckus it ever caused in performance, and in fact attributed it more to nijinsky's choreography (which was apparently somewhat michael clark-ish!!) (ie peasant-y and lewd)

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

"...plays well in the UK but raises not a murmur outside"

Seems to me the Pistols didn't get much shock-reaction from the US press until the Sid/Nancy murder thing. There is something peculiarly British about the Sex Pistols offensiveness. The Stones cut a wider swath (as did, I would guess, Elvis and NWA).

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

they'd split by then anyway, and lydon was already attacking mclaren for wrekcing everything < / kneejerk pistols pundit/bore >

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm sure Madonna would like to be mentioned in this thread.

Curtis Stephens, Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

If a Pepsi video with burning crosses* doesn't count, what the hell does?

*which is "offensive" if you take it out of context etc etc

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 23 January 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

gg allin if no-one has said it

g (graysonlane), Thursday, 23 January 2003 21:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Patrin: the thing that freaked people out about "Like A Prayer" at the time is that she fucked a black Christ figure in a church. Plus her tits were practically heaving out of the dress which was the real root of the ga ga.

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 21:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

GnR at the peak of their bombast?

That was offensive?

Around that time Axl made some comment about AIDS that pissed off a lot of people.

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 23 January 2003 22:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sure you're not thinking of Sebastian Bach there, Julia?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 23 January 2003 23:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

How about Stravinsky's _Rites of Spring_ (assuming it's post-1900)? It caused riots when first performed...

...and I'm told that people still walk out on it today.

Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Thursday, 23 January 2003 23:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've got a picture of the Peters Bros. burning copies of the Cars' 'Candy-O'! I wonder what they objected to? Perhaps the Manichean heresy of "Double Life", or the cavalier handling of predestination in "Dangerous Type"?

Did they ever burn Hall and Oates records? I know that a number of fundie types hated them (of all people) because of "Winged Bull."

Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Thursday, 23 January 2003 23:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

G.G. Allin

It's offensive to eat your own poop.

Evan (Evan), Friday, 24 January 2003 11:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Evan, what did you think of 'Caddyshack'?

dave q, Friday, 24 January 2003 12:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

the brazen hussies, ha ha!

i think GG is prob. far from the most offensive

geeta (geeta), Friday, 24 January 2003 12:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

i have never been offended by musical content. i have been offended by blatant dullness, but i'm not sure that counts.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 24 January 2003 13:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I guess, if you don't find self-defecating nazis offensive

g (graysonlane), Friday, 24 January 2003 23:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Again, I ask you...was anybody NOT offended by the existence of Professor Griff?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 24 January 2003 23:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

I vote for Skrewdriver, Anal Cunt (I became a therapist to tell you it was your fault you were raped), Pitboss 2000, and maybe Boyd Rice because i find him rather offensive in a hilarious way.

mallory bourgeois (painter man), Friday, 24 January 2003 23:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

If 'most offensive' means offending the most number of people then it's probably one of the bigger acts because more people have heard them, t/f more people could be offended by them.

If it means most morally objectionable I'd have to guess Skrewdriver or Mayhem, though it would be a total guess because I've never heard either band. Why would I want to?

If we're talking social impact - i.e. Their obscenity had an effect on people whether or not they had heard the record - I'd suggest Prince or 2 Live Crew for kickstarting the PMRC stickering nonsense.

richard stacey (analog75), Saturday, 25 January 2003 00:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Prodigy got a lot of people's dander up with "Smack My Bitch Up."

I've always loved how Lennon weasled out of the apology he gave to the press: "...It was wrong, or it was taken* wrong..."

* It was a joke about how popular we are, haven't you stupid Americans heard of hyperbole?

nickn (nickn), Saturday, 25 January 2003 00:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Isn't that the standard response nowadays whenever a celebrity says something they regret? 'It was taken out of context', subtext: 'don't blame me for saying something stupid, a slimey-asshole-journalist-type made it all up'.

The only example I can think of right now is Charlotte Church for those 9/11 remarks that were discussed round here a while back. Could it be that she is the most offensive person in popular music?

richard stacey (analog75), Saturday, 25 January 2003 01:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Are Skrewdriver or Mayhem any good, given that you could ignore the behaviour of the people in those bands (and maybe the lyrics too)?

mei (mei), Sunday, 26 January 2003 09:09 (twenty-one years ago) link


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