Jawbone and Container Drivers made my ballot. Third peel session might be my favorite: best thing imo about 79-83 Fall is how the band sounded basically like a garage rock band who started from scratch with every new song they came up with, and third Peel Session is the first to really show this.
― I'm sorry I said anything (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 29 April 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
The Peel version of "Blindness" is definitive for me and the single version of "Sparta #2" is as well, with the addition of Eleni and extra chants.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 29 April 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
Quite a bit of my ballot has already appeared. Not holding out much hope in seeing my number 1 showing up at all. Glad to see Tempo House on there.
Gross Chapel - British Grenadiers is too low. I didn't care for the song at first but the driving, insistent rhythm eventually won me over.
― righteousmaelstrom, Monday, 29 April 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
'The Peel version of "Blindness" is definitive for me'
Otm, my vote for blindness was a vote for this one. It's all about when he goes into that high babbling tone toward the end (sounding a little like beefheart's bass clarinet playing except vocally)
― brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Monday, 29 April 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
I didnt vote for any Peel Sessions versions but the PS Glam Racket was the last thing cut from my ballot so I am stoked to see that slip in
― I'm sorry I said anything (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
I have no problem with anything so far in the track countdown. The only one I voted for was Jawbone, but these are all solid choices. I guess my heart will be broken later when half of my top ten choices don;t place.
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Monday, 29 April 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
I honestly don't get the love for "Weather Report 2", it's not even in my top 5 for that album.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 29 April 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
This is the value, we can go "What, higher than "Slates, etc", really" and go find out
― Mark G, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
It's all about when he goes into that high babbling tone toward the end (sounding a little like beefheart's bass clarinet playing except vocally)
Ah, that helps me understand - that's my exact sticking point on the track, because I always see it as an error. I don't know if it comes down to me needing a more Catholic taste in tonality/timing (but I'll totally buy "Hurricane Edward"!) or being more willing to extend or suspend belief w/r/t intentions and capabilities.
I mean, I have the same problem with a lot of Beefheart - so much effort has gone into creating an internally whole song instrumentally and the voice just hangs back just gesturing over the damn thing. Are MES's voice and the Captain's bass clarinet using fiendishly advanced techniques? Are they just fucking around? Are they productively fucking around their limitations? Why can't MES just flow anymore? Why can't we live in England?
It took me a long time! Headphones help. Like a lot on OFYC, it works especially well for me because it makes thematic sense of the vocal decrepitude. Also, I mean, the track itself is OK, but then it gets fucking eaten alive by synths. It's fantastic! (The same way that "Slippy Floor" repeatedly, gratuitously, awesomely torpedoes "YFOC.")
― bentelec, Monday, 29 April 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
Why can't MES just flow anymore?
i figure he's color commentary at this point. also, the way our friends become cheerful but sometimes dismayingly shabby reminders of the people we once knew/were. they're still our friends, right?
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
Voted Blindness for the Peel version. Maybe could do with a longer intro but once it gets going that doesn't feel like an issue.
Gross Chapel - GB Grenadiers was very high up my ballot - The Fall go goth, and do it amazingly
― have a nice Blog (imago), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
YFOC is a great album, regret not voting for the mighty Mexico Wax Solvent along with WR2
― have a nice Blog (imago), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
I also did not get round to posting but am very interested in the results of this - I would have pushed Container Drivers/ Slates / Gross Chapel and Rebellious Jukebox up further. Possibly like others? I know some parts of the Fall's oeuvre very well and other parts are basically blank it so primarilly looking at this for new avenues and places to explore. Keep up the good work people!
― Hinklepicker, Monday, 29 April 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
I have the same problem with a lot of Beefheart
Well, yes, frankly it took me years to come to terms with MES' vocals, and a further 15 to do the same for the Captain, but once you've made that adjustment it all just MAKES SENSE. I think The Fall could actually be more broadly enjoyed by the public but that warm-up period is something most people just won't give it.
Re: Gross Chapel - GB Grenadiers - I'm not certain the Peel version surpasses the studio, but they certainly compliment one another, if that makes sense. And, yes, the whole Fall-as-goths treatment of "Bend Sinister" is what makes it unique in their catalogue and made me vote it number 1 on the albums section.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
the PS Glam Racket was the last thing cut from my ballot
I had the Peel Session "Glam Racket" at number 15 on my ballot. After getting off the bus in the early 90s, that song and "Chiselers" were what made me reconsider the error of my ways.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
Whoa, that's 8 of my ballot represented already (Fortress, Jukebox, Hobgoblins, English Scheme, Middle Mass, Smile, Prole, Spectre), which could be a good OR bad sign. "Prole Art Threat" was my #2, so TOO LOW, etc, for that at the very least.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
re: fall members list - i'm guessing "mark hanley" is a mistake there?
― fit and working again, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
25. Lie Dream of A Casino Soul Points: 163 Votes: 6 Number Ones: 0
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:01 (eleven years ago) link
Reckon the biggest curveball in the top 25 will be my number 2, a song notable for its drumbeat and the use of the word 'faaarmhaaaand'
― have a nice Blog (imago), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:02 (eleven years ago) link
24. An Older Lover etc Points: 165 Votes: 6 Number Ones: 0
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:12 (eleven years ago) link
TOO FUCKEN LOW
― we're up all night to get relegated (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:15 (eleven years ago) link
23. Hit The North Points: 173 Votes: 7 Number Ones: 0
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:16 (eleven years ago) link
22. (Theme From) Sparta F.C. / Sparta 2XX Points: 190 Votes: 9 Number Ones: 0
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:52 (eleven years ago) link
Hmmm, is it possible my ballot was lost? Should have at least one #1 vote for "Lie Dream".
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:54 (eleven years ago) link
Hmm, seems there are actually five votes and one number one.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 10:00 (eleven years ago) link
Anyways...
"he.. is .. nottt"
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 10:04 (eleven years ago) link
21. New Big Prinz / Big New Prinz Points: 190 Votes: 9 Number Ones: 0
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 10:08 (eleven years ago) link
20. The N.W.R.A. Points: 196 Votes: 7 Number Ones: 1
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 10:44 (eleven years ago) link
dunno why i didn't vote for "an older lover etc". should have. another of my early-on favorites, along with "putta block".
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:21 (eleven years ago) link
19. Cruisers Creek Points: 202 Votes: 8 Number Ones: 1
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
18. Eat Yrself Fitter Points: 206 Votes: 13 Number Ones: 0
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 12:03 (eleven years ago) link
17. Bill Is Dead Points: 208 Votes: 8 Number Ones: 2
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 12:28 (eleven years ago) link
Ok, maybe Hurricane Edward won't make it. Wailing, gnashing of teeth etc
― have a nice Blog (imago), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 12:34 (eleven years ago) link
16. The Man Whose Head Expanded Points: 214 Votes: 10 Number Ones: 0
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
of this he was con vinced
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 12:41 (eleven years ago) link
Eat Y'self Fitter is some magic. Lots of songs here that I've mostly avoided due to presumptions of conventionality, which are presumably sodomising me as I type. Will return.
Mark, down to 11 today then top 10 tomorrow, aye?
― have a nice Blog (imago), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that's it.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 13:18 (eleven years ago) link
15. I Feel Voxish Points: 217 Votes: 10 Number Ones: 0
NO ONE WILL FUCK WITH ME AGAIN
― bentelec, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
top 20 = PBL era, top 10 = Hex era
― have a nice Blog (imago), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
Garden had best make the top 5 tho
xpost so where does that put...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
14. Rowche Rumble Points: 219 Votes: 9 Number Ones: 0
13. Gut of the Quantifier Points: 239 Votes: 10 Number Ones: 0
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
Rowche! Rumble!
― emil.y, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
CHIP!
― brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
12. New Face In Hell Points: 248 Votes: 10 Number Ones: 1
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
Huh! In my head, I'd predicted that New Face would win this!
― brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
New Face was my #1
― I'm sorry I said anything (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
Lots of my top flying out fast right now: Lie Dream, Older Lover, Rowche was #3
― I'm sorry I said anything (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link