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dean-jeff was amazeballs. i liked the overall premise too -- playing with "doing a bit" vs. the not-so-hidden subtext in a decent way. felt very confident in the relationship of community to genre as something that's not just from outside, imposed by writers doing gags, but also drawn directly from how the characters operate within and relate to broader culture.

the throwaway gag about 'murder mystery dinner' or whatever was also cute.

Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Saturday, 27 April 2013 05:46 (eleven years ago) link

That episode actually made me angry.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 April 2013 07:27 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah the mistake was folding the body swap in with the breakup. It was funny enough in its own right, but Troy and Britta as a couple has never worked in any context.

Troy doing Abed was much funnier than Abed doing Troy, which I put down to writing as much as performance. Abed did a much better Troy in the gay disco episode. The Dean doing Jeff was amazing though.

Matt DC, Saturday, 27 April 2013 09:31 (eleven years ago) link

Character growth (or whatever it is) needs to be more than everyone realizing they are friends and they have to stick together at the end of every episode.

The Troy/Abed/Britta thing is super disturbing. Maybe Britta got involved in that mess in the first place because she knew there would be a bunch of chances to flex her psychiatric skills.

I'm putting it down as weak writing, which yes has been popping up over the course of the show. It is still a funny show, I still like the characters (as characters, not as fictional people), etc. But I can't tell sometimes if the recent stories are just dumb or MEANT to seem dumb because meta. No, it's the former.

For instance, Annie and Shirley are super smart nerdy Valedictorians, yet they spend this whole episode not doing their work and trying (in vain) way harder to get the rest of the study group to do the work for them. Pierce's bit at the end shows how that assignment wasn't supposed to be necessarily a group project, cos he did all the work and they are all saved and get good grades. Again i guess you can argue Annie and Shirley aren't really super smart, it's a Community College LOL, dumb old Leonard was Valedictorian ahead of them, etc. but again it's just more difficult to take those characters or their arcs seriously.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 27 April 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

Character growth (or whatever it is) needs to be more than everyone realizing they are friends and they have to stick together at the end of every episode.

Especially when there's so little to build up to it or back it up, which was related to what I was getting at re the puppet episode. Troy's explanation of how he weaselled out of breaking up a relationship that we barely saw any evidence of inspired that Winger speech about commitment? Really? And Britta's totally OK with it? The stories weren't so lame before.

And you're right about Annie and Shirley. Annie used to have a lot of integrity about work and studying! It's getting really hard to care about her character.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 April 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

"is related"

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 April 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

I don't even think Big Bang Theory or Modern Family get this weak about basic writing.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 April 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

xp ime valedictorian has never been "the smartest" or really the most anything, it's always been the person who really wants to be valedictorian and has spent their entire time in school primping up their credentials, so that part makes sense to me

infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

no, valedictorian is the person with the highest gpa? which just sort of happens if you work hard to get good grades?

Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

They keep bringing up that they got a C+ on that last thing.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

fuck this show -- *totally* unrealistic portrayal of community college grade point averages

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

That's not anyone's criticism, though.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

This was mostly funny, although it's super telling that Abed impersonating Troy had more chemistry with Britta than actual Troy.

Dean was episode MVP

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

xp yeah but highest gpa doesn't mean smartest

infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Saturday, 27 April 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

is that the normal standard/definition for valedictorian? i always thought it involved an application process and stuff

infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Saturday, 27 April 2013 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

Dean was episode MVP

It was a really good acting performance but I'm pretty burned out on his obsession with Jeff - and this was an especially weird way to express it.

xp yeah but highest gpa doesn't mean smartest

It doesn't have to but Annie's character was previously established as smart, hard-working, and pretty honest.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 April 2013 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

I swear that episode last night was very reminiscent of an episode of My Little Pony. This is what happens when I watch an episode of Community now.

The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Friday, 3 May 2013 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

I had a hamburger the other day and suddenly I'm not cold all the time.

viacom dios, Saturday, 4 May 2013 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

that one was sort of vintage. i'm getting used to laughing once per episode.

infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Saturday, 4 May 2013 05:23 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, one real banger per ep this season. Yogurts-burgh is up there, too.

viacom dios, Saturday, 4 May 2013 05:29 (eleven years ago) link

They gave Britta a Kieslowski reference.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 May 2013 07:49 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, that was good. She totally Britta'd the pronunciation.

viacom dios, Saturday, 4 May 2013 07:57 (eleven years ago) link

Thought the concept was pretty good but it wasn't funny enough. Also you get the feeling that old Community would have done more to make the Troy and Annie origin stories tie in with the others a bit more.

Also the substitute Pierce was lame.

Matt DC, Saturday, 4 May 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

Incidentally I hope Chang's "they'd give a degree to a monkey" line was foreshadowing the season actually ends with Annie's Boobs graduating from Greendale.

Matt DC, Saturday, 4 May 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

rip

mookieproof, Friday, 10 May 2013 03:13 (ten years ago) link

Last night's was...ok. About as decent (if sometimes forced) a wrapup as you could expect at this point. It was written and directed by Harmon-era vets (Ganz and Shapeero), which probably accounts for most of the jokes landing, even if going back to the multiple-timelines well was a bit cheap.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 10 May 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link

I'm assuming they didn't announce cancellation yesterday because the finale hadn't yet aired, but if this was being renewed it probably would have been announced along with Parks & Rec

mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Friday, 10 May 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link

This was the dumbest fucking thing

When Abed announced that none of it was real and it was all happening in Jeff's head I went "oh thank god" because I really couldn't take it anymore, and then they had fucking "6 seasons and a movie" written on the chalkboard in the graduation scene and I wanted to scream "nooooooooo"

Watching that felt like being forced to watch how much someone else is enjoying jacking off

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Friday, 10 May 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link

6 seasons and a movie is literally the most annoying meme ever propagated via television

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 10 May 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link

otm. Like I love Arrested Development to death, I've rewatched those three seasons over and over so many times it's ridiculous. But there's really no way you could do 6 seasons and a movie of THAT show and not have a ton of duds in there.

I also really like when bands play a song live and it's a minute or 30 seconds long, then they stop and immediately go into the next one, and it's also a minute long.

Haven't watched this ep, but read the AV Club eulogy last night. As long as it makes me laugh as much as usual it's fine w me.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 May 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link

I laughed exactly once

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Friday, 10 May 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link

And it's not even that I require every episode of every sitcom to be a nonstop laugh riot; this particular episode was a gigantic pile of irredeemable bullshit top to bottom with little humor, no emotional resonance, and a fuckton of "Ooh look remember this? You liked this! You liked this, too! The Cape, lol! Annie is sexy! Let's get Jeff naked! Wooooooooo oh shit we forgot to write an episode"

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Friday, 10 May 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link

It was the Community Farewell Tour. They played all the hits, the performances were spirited, got to see them one last time, and hopefully that's the end of it.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 10 May 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link

The show went out as the gigantic animated GIF it aspired to be, having abandoned plots and dialogue and likeability for the most part.

you made me the queef of your fart (edwardo), Friday, 10 May 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link

Last week's episode ends with Chang signing on for actual friendship and the City College dean laughing maniacally about an alternate plan...except whoops! We only have 30 minutes of season left, so forget you ever saw that. No time to carry that story out.

I really wanted the (likely) final episode to be a good and make me laugh a lot, but tbh it's probably fitting that it was mostly terrible and not very funny.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 10 May 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link

I really didn't like the sound design for evil Troy's voice.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 May 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link

In retrospect I feel like they rang a bell with Remedial Chaos Theory that ended up destroying the show

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Friday, 10 May 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

I liked that episode but, yeah, I've groaned inwardly any time they referenced it since then.

The descriptions of the last two episodes have not inspired me to check them out.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 May 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link

Bring on an Alison Brie sitcom!

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 10 May 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link

ha ha haaaa they renewed this jfc

a sentimental knife (reddening), Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link

and then cancelled Goon? I thought that was a "hit"

mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:22 (ten years ago) link

I never thought I'd be annoyed by news of a Community renewal, but it should be put down like Old Yeller.

The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link

def needs to be taken to the back of the woodshed

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link

My main reason for half-wanting it to be renewed is so that I can still see Yvette Nicole Brown on my tee vee, because I fear she'd be dropped back down to working bit parts and Nickelodeon/Disney shows and I <3 her.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link

oh wait I see it's already been reported. might skip next year but probably won't be able to help myself.

Clay, Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link

Christ, I'm actually pissed about its renewal. There's nothing left in this show to care about.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link

"mistress in a lifetime movie" gag was a+

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link

goon's ratings started out really high and ended really, really low, so i guess that's not too surprising. nbc also canceled the new normal, whitney, and guys with kids, so unless i'm mistaken parks and rec and community are the only returning nbc comedies next year (???). what a world.

a sentimental knife (reddening), Saturday, 11 May 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link

i think i am the only person that liked whitney

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Saturday, 11 May 2013 01:08 (ten years ago) link


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