Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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i mean, i imagine an adventurer would get to have some pretty major thighs going on at some point. it's kind of funny kind of sad that the artist decided to exaggerate that to the level of fetish also?

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:56 (ten years ago) link

horsey

mh, Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link

"Let's step back from the social justice aspect of this kind of artwork and deal with the fact that 9 year-old girls find it stupid. I'd love for her to see games and want to be these women, not simply recoil at the fact that they're designed for my eyes more than her power fantasies."

Wtf, this is exactly what the social justice aspect is!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 25 April 2013 07:37 (ten years ago) link

it is and it isn't.

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

i. i think this is a good case for why 'casual racism and sexism are more accepted in video games than other media' is a bad way of phrasing the argument vs. something like 'more visible in video games than other media'. -- like, having sexed-up fantasy figures turned up to such a ridic degree makes it more obvious and undeniable that something's going on, that there is a problem here that needs addressing.

ii. kind of sad compared to previous form; a couple gay girls i know thought odin sphere was really amazing w/ the fairy princess types just whaling on guys and beating the shit out of them

iii. huh, i wanna play odin sphere

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

its on psn

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

i got it on sale on PSN a few weeks ago, been meaning to crack it

Nhex, Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Vex0WGq.jpg

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link

weirdly into that

resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link

Reminding me weirdly of some awesome Greek mythology picture books I devoured as a kid.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 26 April 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link

Somehow more erotic than his woman pics

mh, Friday, 26 April 2013 04:06 (ten years ago) link

This guy really might have a future in dude-on-dude art

None of them looks mysteriously like a horse

mh, Friday, 26 April 2013 04:07 (ten years ago) link

i would play a game like that, maybe based on the three kingdoms

http://i.imgur.com/008oKkZ.jpg

乒乓, Friday, 26 April 2013 11:51 (ten years ago) link

that is making me nostalgic for Dragon Force

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Friday, 26 April 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link

wm blake + zangief + bear porn

goole, Friday, 26 April 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link

zangief and bear porn are kind of the same already i guess

goole, Friday, 26 April 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link

yup

Nhex, Friday, 26 April 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

Odin Sphere I managed to snag used at a late lamented Hollywood Video at the end of the PS2. It's worth playing.

Hockey Drunk (kingfish), Saturday, 27 April 2013 02:35 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

We talked about Sarkeesian a bit upthread.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link

Sarkeesian is such an easy target for internet trolls. I honestly wish she were a little more challenging and interesting but she's still among the better video game essayists if only due to the low bar.
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Monday, April 1, 2013

i am somewhat amazed someone made a ten minute video refuting zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
― Nhex, Monday, April 1, 2013 11:49 PM

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link

she still doesn't mean 'tropes'

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link

tramps in video games, pt 1

polyphonic, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link

hey hey lemme defend my internet honor for a sec - i was referring to the creepy troll response video there, not her video

Nhex, Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link

I think the context is there if you were around for the original conversation

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link

She released a second video, right?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 May 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link

I've been playing Arkham City and the gameplay is pretty awesome and stunning but my desire to show off to friends my 80-hit combo skillz w Catwoman is often mitigated by the cringe-worthy taunts the bad guys shout at her.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 May 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link

so arkham city is an interesting case because about nine-tenths of what i knew about it before actually playing it was that it hated women

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Thursday, 30 May 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

then a friend showed me it and i was like, huh, there are many other things that are embarrassing and bad about this game

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Thursday, 30 May 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

That's Explosion.com article is bullshit.

Hockey Drunk (kingfish), Saturday, 15 June 2013 06:45 (ten years ago) link

i somehow avoided this nonsense until now. wtf is this nonsense about exactly? is anyone a fan who can tell me and spare me the googling
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/yluvyt/hey-ash--whatcha-playin---tomb-raider

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 June 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link

This nonsense = don't ever watch 'shows' on Gametrailers.com

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 June 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link

got it

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

*adds gametrailers.com to my list of do-not-watch-shows-from list*

乒乓, Monday, 17 June 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link

Once you have 'youtube' it's just mopping up from there.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 June 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...
two weeks pass...

in which the writer basically apologizes for being offended
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/20/opinion-blue-estates-humiliated-mermaid-wont-leave-me-alone/

I’m a sophisticated guy, I like sophisticated music (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 September 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link

it's like, i know i shouldn't look at the comments of these kinds of articles but i can't look away

Nhex, Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link

ughhhhhh why do i ever start reading comments sections on things

Doctor Casino, Friday, 27 September 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link

Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in Grand Theft Auto than other games (these days)?

☪☮⚤✡i☯✞ (am0n), Friday, 27 September 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

no takers huh

☪☮⚤✡i☯✞ (am0n), Friday, 27 September 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link

cuz 1 billion dollars

erect, sporadic, notorious, genitals (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 September 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link

The defence everyone seems to come up with is "sure, the game hates women and minorities, but it hates everyone else too so that's ok". I'm far from convinced that does make it ok, but it muddies the water enough for them to get away with it.

JimD, Saturday, 28 September 2013 08:05 (ten years ago) link

most people seem to claim "it's satire", and when you explain that it's pretty difficult to do satirical racism and misogyny when there's no sense that the game or any of its developers disapprove of it they get real defensive

Andrew Kornfan, Saturday, 28 September 2013 09:19 (ten years ago) link

Somebody could probably get a good feature out of exploring the way-different vibes that GTA vs Saints Row take with their characters and the difference between the sexy/sexist breakdown happens.

Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Friday, 4 October 2013 07:05 (ten years ago) link


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