"qTip has gonorrhea? great rumors on this thread"
Shhh don't tell his girlfriend!
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Here's how it went down, according to the police report. After Chris received a text message from a woman who wrote about getting together, an argument erupted. By the way, initially, Rihanna would not tell cops what started the argument.
She did, however, tell them that during the argument, he started hitting her. According to the police report, she ordered him to drive her home and "faked a call" to someone, saying things like, "He's dropping me off. Make sure the cops are there."
Rihanna told cops the fake call enraged Brown. He said something to the effect of "You are really fu**ed up now. I'm going to kill you." This statement is the basis of the criminal threats charge.
At that point, according to the report, Brown allegedly began a violent attack with his fists. At some point, Rihanna took the keys out of the ignition and threw them outside.
And there's this. According to the police report, she told cops this was not the first time Brown hit her. She referred to it as an ongoing and escalating abusive relationship.
We're told the criminal threats charge is based on that one statement Brown allegedly made. As one law enforcement source told us, "It's kinda weak, and the D.A. is not going to prosecute a high profile case like this unless it's solid." That's why it was kicked back for further investigation.
Given the brutal nature of the attack, which the photos clearly show -- contusions on the face, swollen eyes, cut lip, bloody nose, bite marks on fingers and arm -- a felony domestic battery charge is virtually a done deal. That, however, is a less serious offense than making criminal threats.
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link
hey I'm not advocating domestic violence - hitting anyone is wrong - but "never hit a woman" is really sexist. I mean, the implication is that women are incapable of defending themselves/meek/inferior... and what if some really buff and/or crazy chick attacks you? Should you not defend yourself because she's a woman and you "never hit women"?
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link
"That, however, is a less serious offense than making criminal threats."
Fucked up.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
You shouldn't hit anyone because they "gave" you herpes.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
xxpost - I don't think anyone is pushing that angle though.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
that's weird that "beating the shit out of a woman" is less serious as a charge than "making a threat"
― memo from norv turner (omar little), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
If you are being attacked by a crazy buff chick you have my permission to beat the shit out of her, Brainwasher.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean that's assuming you can. Me I'd just run.
right xp "i was going to threaten to kill you, but instead i'm just going to punch you into the hospital"
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
where did you get that from? there are so many different "official" stories that I'm not necessarily inclined to believe this one...
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I kind of get the logic behind making threats to kill someone a very serious offense that carries more of a penalty than battery that doesn't cause serious or lasting injury.
I don't know US laws though - my first question would be whether a non-domestic battery of this nature would attract a greater penalty than a domestic battery.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link
tmz xp
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link
domestic battery carries a harsher penalty afaik
good.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah non-domestic battery isn't even a felony
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i think criminal threats applies where it's reasonable to suppose that the attacker was actually going to carry out the threat (to kill, etc), but was prevented from doing so
― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
sez mto: since they're not married, divorced, cohabiting, ex-cohabiting, or parents together, they can't hit him with spousal abuse/domestic battery
― yungblut, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link
...the benefits of maintaining your own appartment
― yungblut, Friday, 13 February 2009 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link
is it right to insult your housemate with this - you sir, are chris browns confession
― fucks capacitor (a-bomb), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link
http://photos-d.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v188/151/103/1124461452/n1124461452_30580763_4605.jpg
― Jena (who is actually a man) (Jena), Thursday, 19 February 2009 06:35 (fifteen years ago) link
holy shit:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/02/0219_rihanna_photo_beating.jpg
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link
oh man...
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link
speechless
I was trying not to jump on dude without knowing the whole story but this is indefensible... oh man...
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link
dude..
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2009 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link
fuck
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link
oh shit
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link
goddamn
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link
awful stuff
― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link
dudes career is over
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link
over
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link
man this shit is sad as hell
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:16 (fifteen years ago) link
as the cliche goes, america loves to forgive. i could see dude coming back okay after a serious apology, a tv interview and a year or so off
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I still kind of feel bad for dude, I don't think this should end his career even if I'm not his biggest fan... but yeah this is just sad.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link
no, I don't see him being forgiven for this. Not by white people at least (no offense).
woah
― on some charter shit no doubt (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link
at the very least, dude is/was one of the last truly bankable stars left in pop, so yall are crazy if you think the label is gonna give up on him. he'd have to be the 20th 9/11 hijacker or something to be done forever
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link
dude, he is totally expendable. they'll just get another r&b dude who's cute and put the chris brown money behind him.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i dont think this is the kind of shit he can come back from. im not sure it should be either.
i mean not to compare abuse to using a prostitute, but its like the same kind of hypocrisy between his image & reality that happened w/ spitzer ... u cant be a golden boy pin-up good guy R&B artist who just happens to beat the shit out of chicks on the side -- folks forgive a lot of stuff but im pretty sure his career is effectively done. i just cant see it.
i mean kells kept going but ... i dunno. this feels different. & evident, and obvious.
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link
lolby o'donis xp
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:17 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is silly man. some dude on soulstrut tried to argue some similar shit. im from an irish catholic family, not being cool w/ domestic battery is not a 'white people thing'
I don't think his career is entirely done, I just think his career as a big pop crossover star is done.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:21 (fifteen years ago) link
(fwiw if anyones confused there was not abuse in my family but i knew plenty of ppl who had stories abou that shit going on ... its a 'cultural thing' only in the broadest sense & exists across all demographics)
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Kells didn't pee on one of the biggest music stars in the world. People find it easier to forgive a transgression against someone they don't know than against someone they do.
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:22 (fifteen years ago) link
it sucks to say, but i think this is way worse for him because it's rihanna. if he beat the shit out of some no-name girl this would blow over way quickly, but this is gonna be a thing for the first 100 times that rihanna appears in public. and if she has any permanent scars or w/e he's 100x more fucked
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link
xp xactly
tru, plus im sure some folks are more forgiving about 'consensual' post-pubescent teenagers (unacceptably imo but it is what it is) than just straight up unconsensual abuse
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean like always i want to withhold judgment till we know the whole story but if he did that to rihanna he should do some fucking time
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:26 (fifteen years ago) link
i dont mean to imply only rihanna--if he did that to anyone, he should do time