Sonic Youth: Classic or Dud/S&D?

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from where i sit, that scans as fuckin-a rich

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

i definitely believe it's their business and they need to make decisions for their own happiness, not for the kid or even the fans etc etc. but dudes who are loyal husbands for decades and then flush it all away for the younger woman, and sneak around about it, it's lame as shit, they can get the gasface for living that cliche.

some dude, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

That would probably qualify, yeah, I mean, assuming e.g. they had to pay full tuition, etc. That's really possible for a band whose best-selling album sold less than 400 000 copies according to this?: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/06/11/fringe-benefits.html

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EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

dudes who are loyal husbands for decades and then flush it all away for the younger woman, and sneak around about it, it's lame as shit, they can get the gasface for living that cliche.
this is why i am disappointed! it's undignified.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

I guess if each album turns a reasonable profit, you tour a lot, crank out a piece of crap for every soundtrack or compilation album, and handle your money wisely, that could make sense?

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EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

merch, touring, licensing, theme park rides, etc. assume that record sales are just a dorp in the scrooge vault.

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

i imagine they made a comfortable living when Sonic Youth did a lengthy tour every summer, divorce plus the end of their most lucrative possible gig might be a little rough but i'm sure they have enough to keep just living bohemian artist lives.

some dude, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

They toured for 20+ years, were on countless soundtracks, played every major global festival (and plenty of minor ones), had their own vanity record label(s), had their own clothing lines, invested in outsider art before people invested in outsider art, countless side projects... you may be forgetting that Thurston was A&R for DGC, he was an integral piece of Nirvana's signing (I think Beck too?). Did Thurston get points for Nevermind?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

ooh, good question

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:10 (eleven years ago) link

You're right that I was forgetting or else not fully aware that TM was on DGC's payroll for A&R.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:12 (eleven years ago) link

Huh, never really fully gave these guys credit for their business sense before. It now makes sense why they put out so many half-assed compilation tracks, etc.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:13 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think Thurston/SY made any money directly off of Nirvana's signing/sales, and it's not like the bands he signed directly like Cell or Sammy ever turned a profit.

some dude, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:15 (eleven years ago) link

profile of KG in Elle magazine....way too much info about the breakup. Sad to see this being played out in public

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, lol cell. ecstatic peace had dgc distro for a while there, right? even if his ponies died stinking, i imagine he made out okay. not that my imaginings mean much...

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

xp elle articule linked a ways upthread

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

oops sorry, i shouldn't read from the bottom!

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

dunno how I feel about Kim drinking Rosé.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

d be bummed if georgia hubley and ira kaplan broke up i suppose

damn, dont even suggest it dude. i couldnt handle being deprived of their boring-ass crap

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, April 22, 2013 11:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know, it is really horrible when they tie you down and force you to listen to their records.

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

^ gets it. wouldn't be a problem if they weren't so boring.

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:28 (eleven years ago) link

Sad to see this being played out in public

― Iago Galdston, Monday, April 22, 2013 9:18 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it's really kind of shitty

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:32 (eleven years ago) link

i always assumed sy were p rich. like for real i have seen pictures of them or w/e and thought "i bet they live really, really well." not like celebrity-rich, but dual-income nyc yuppie rich. it doesn't seem hard to conjure up a handful of revenue streams for either of them that totals, oh, let's say, $400k/yr combined. a couple of mid-level lawyers in a midwestern city make that.

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

yeah yuppie rich sounds right. but i mean, when you talk about well known musicians being "rich," that usually means something completely different.

some dude, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:40 (eleven years ago) link

Oh for sure, but I'm a little surprised to hear that ppl might've thought they were living record to record

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

iirc h4a has multiple yo la tengo posts

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

him and morbs should do a lil yo la tengo conversation, a...canks morbs convo (pronounce like yo la tengo)

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:48 (eleven years ago) link

i always assumed thurston came from family money, the way i would anyone named "thurston"

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 01:51 (eleven years ago) link

"and sent their daughter to an elite artsy boarding school"

she went to the same school my kids go to until high school. its hardly elite. it costs money, but not fancy boarding school money. and its not a boarding school. and she went to a public charter school outside Northampton. it's free. for the performing arts. great school! she's a great kid. very nice and normal. and cool.

scott seward, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 02:37 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, to be clear, I'd assumed they had a comfortable and stable middle-class lifestyle, not that they were living record to record.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 02:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i'm genuinely (surprisingly) disappointed at this, i'd chalked up divorce to their kid was old enough for college and so they finally got divorced like a ton of folx do, kinda disgusted to read thurston living out mid-life cliche. loved demolished thoughts though.

balls, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

i always assumed thurston came from family money, the way i would anyone named "thurston"

― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, April 22, 2013 8:51 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i knew a thurston in college. we called him "tad." he came from money.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 03:55 (eleven years ago) link

sorry, "thad"

(even more posh i think)

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 03:56 (eleven years ago) link

YOKO IS THE OTHER WOMAN

He wasn't singing "Ono Soul," he was singing "Ono's Hole."

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 03:59 (eleven years ago) link

Ever since I realized the punny nature of his name (he's thirstin' more, maaaan) I've wondered if he gave it to himself.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link

And the other guy is leerin' all da time

da croupier, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 04:57 (eleven years ago) link

kim turns 60 on sunday

mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 05:03 (eleven years ago) link

EVA PRINZ

January 2011

1: Who am I?

Eva Prinz, Provocateur.

2: What do you do and what project are you currently working on?

I am a publisher and I am currently working on an anti-Army recruitment campaign, as well as a few books for Ecstatic Peace Library, Abrams Books, Steidlville and Gregory R. Miller & Co.

3: Where are you from and where are you going?

I’m from Venus and I will explore the Milky Way.

4: Who is your biggest hero?

My biggest living hero is Barney Rosset, he was the publisher of Grove Press.

5: What book is your bible?

The Freedom Principle by John Litweiler.

6: What are some things you love? And some things you hate?

I love a couchette on an overnight train with my sweetheart. I love the sound of an oboe and harp together. I love to letterpress poetry.

7: What is your raison d’être?

The search for modernity.

8: What is your favorite color?

I like blue hair.

9: Who is your favorite comic book superhero?

Buffy – the Vampire Slayer.

10: What is your favorite NYC hot spot?

New York Public Library.

11: What turns you on?

Gentleness.

12: What would the last question of this questionnaire be if you were the one asking?

How do we love each other more?

Eva Prinz is a publisher and self-proclaimed provocateur. She is currently working on an anti-Army recruitment campaign, as well as books for Ecstatic Peace Library, Abrams Books, Steidlville and Gregory R. Miller & Co.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 05:25 (eleven years ago) link

My bff met Eva and said she was very very nice.

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 05:39 (eleven years ago) link

yeah even if she's 'the other woman' ppl shouldn't lose sight that the douchebag here is thurston moore

balls, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 05:40 (eleven years ago) link

i mean, the first "story" i heard was that he'd gotten the other woman pregnant, but it turns out that she is a single mom, so I think better of him, than I initially had.

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 05:43 (eleven years ago) link

They left the restaurant for Issue Project Room, an arts space in Gowanus, where Byron Coley, a rock critic, read from his novel-in-progress. Ms. Pearl had met Mr. Coley before and was impressed by his encyclopedic music knowledge; she declared him “the man.” During the reading, she and her band mates sipped Sierra Nevadas and laughed knowingly at references to ESP Records and Roxy Music. “I can’t wait to read the whole thing!” she said. Afterward, in the lobby, she found that Mr. Moore and Ms. Prinz had left without a goodbye. “That’s Thurston,” she sighed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/fashion/08night.html?_r=0

da croupier, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 06:13 (eleven years ago) link

i can totally see him doing the aspie scram tbh

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 06:16 (eleven years ago) link

kill yr idols folx

balls, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 06:30 (eleven years ago) link

god that movie suuuuuuuucked

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 06:33 (eleven years ago) link

ok, the Lydia Lunch and Glenn Branca segments were good

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 06:33 (eleven years ago) link

Kim wrote a tweet yesterday about the Elle article but she deleted it, I was gonna copy paste it here but now it's gone.

She said it over exaggerated her relationship with Kurt and something else.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

ayiyi. I hung out with Eva a few times years ago.

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder if Thurston will be compelled to give his side of the story now this is out there? It could get very messy.

Position Position, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link


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