Charli XCX

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Is "cloud aura" the same as on last year's mixtape?

Tim F, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:33 (six years ago) link

yeah no changes as far as i can tell

monotony, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:42 (six years ago) link

"set me free" is ENORMOUS and shoulda been the lead-off single instead of "you"

monotony, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:43 (six years ago) link

I still don't get why "I Love It" didn't get the praise this is getting, I know it's noisy and brash but that's kinda the point?

This keeps getting better on repeated listens, it's not so much that it's a grower as

boxedjoy, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:50 (six years ago) link

something else that I was thinking of how to explain before I hit enter, oops. It's like it's really simple but sticks way more than the disposable pop she clearly adores.

boxedjoy, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:51 (six years ago) link

I love that mixtape so much but "Cloud Aura" wouldn't be the tune I'd carry over from it.

Tim F, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:51 (six years ago) link

i never heard the mixtape - how does it compare to the album tim?

"i love it" is just completely rotten imo

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 07:52 (six years ago) link

I haven't heard the album so I can't compare - but the mixtape is shimmering cloud-R&B which by that description should be awful but actually is excellent - "Cloud Aura" is pretty indicative of the overall sound but there's some more discoid and/or balladic stuff on there and there's no other raps.

Tim F, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 07:58 (six years ago) link

There are some songs down the end of Super Ultra that could have slotted in fine, on here but for the most part the album is much stronger, which of course it was always going to be given that it has all those pre-release singles on it.

I'm a big fan of "I Love It" (which has had plenty of praise, btw - perhaps not on ILX but certainly elsewhere), but it's not something that would gel with the rest of this record at all; too daphne & celeste / bananarama. it's pummelling, brash, throw-your-hands-up-in-the-air-sometimes sort of stuff; none of the songs on true romance even remotely approach that kind of aggression.

monotony, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:11 (six years ago) link

and yes there is a stray comma in that first sentence, oops

monotony, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:12 (six years ago) link

Yeah, "I Love It" would sound totally out of place on this but I think it's strange that there's so much dislike for it on its own.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:27 (six years ago) link

"i love it" did really well on the ilm poll despite not being overwhelmingly praised here (and met with boos and hisses during the results rollout)

dyl, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 22:58 (six years ago) link

yeah i'd be interested to learn what is quite so rotten about "i love it" - as was mentioned upthread, obviously it's loud and obnoxious - but that's the whole purpose of the track, to convey that feeling of just not giving a fuck

monotony, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:06 (six years ago) link

I don't _love_ it as much anymore, but I like it in the same way I like Shampoo. And it's not like Icona Pop didn't sound more or less like this for years, so it's not like they "sold out" or whatever accusation you want to level.

katherine, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:07 (six years ago) link

at any rate this album is amazing. and yes, "Set Me Free" is massive but it doesn't seem to be the direction Charli XCX wants to go with her singles. alas.

katherine, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:20 (six years ago) link

(incidentally, the "Set Me Free" producer's best known for working with _Meds_-era Placebo, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Nicola Roberts and Sohodolls, which is as good a triangulation [uh, with "tri-" replaced with "quad-" as necessary] of this album as you'll find anywhere.)

katherine, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:58 (six years ago) link

"i love it" feels clumsy and contrived and, crucially, totally unfun to me. i like don't-give-a-fuck music but it just repels me.

(katherine - picking up something i half-saw on twitter last night if i may, which is prob relevant here - your dislike of "tumblr" as a signifier. i'd say tumblr - regardless of the pockets of tumblr where this isn't the case - signifies decontextualisation above all to me, whether that's endless images/quotes plucked from the ether or the social justice kids or whatever...)

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 07:48 (six years ago) link

oh, and GREAT review btw

http://www.mtvhive.com/2013/04/23/charli-xcx-true-romance/

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 07:50 (six years ago) link

haha, that was actually prompted by reading a bunch of metacritic reviews of this very album. the thing is... tumblr is a huge site, with a huge and varied userbase; it's like how people say designs "look like Geocities," as if a site with millions of uses could be somehow aesthetically consistent in a way that isn't "this is how entry-level HTML from cookbooks in 1999 is probably gonna look."

my beef I think is that a lot of time it gets invoked as a kind of shorthand to sneak in pejoratives. like, if someone is trying to say that "this charli xcx album sounds like a thing teenage girls would love," then they should just say it -- and then think about why this is such an important thing to mention. or "this charli xcx album sounds trendy" -- how? why is that bad? etc.

(also, thanks!)

katherine, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:25 (six years ago) link

Ugh not feeling this at all, there's an underlying clumsiness to almost everything here and she's just not an enjoyable or engaging on-record presence. Awful voice too.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:02 (six years ago) link

Agreed, and I even like some of her mixtape material. I just can't with this unfinished-sounding album.

Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:31 (six years ago) link

Love it!!!

calstars, Monday, 6 May 2013 01:38 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

She covers 'I want it that way': http://www.popjustice.com/briefing/believe-when-we-say-we-like-it-this-way/114844/

kinder, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:52 (six years ago) link

every time i listen to this, the one with brooke candy is the only one that stands out to me

but then again it is the blatant 90s r&b homage so

J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:33 (six years ago) link

the album really turns around after that track, i think. "what i like" and "black roses" are also very good.

i find myself rooting for her because she seems really likable but there's something gloopy about this record that i find a bit impenetrable. it's like listening to pop while having a head cold.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:39 (six years ago) link

haha isn't that kinda the idea of tumblr-pop in the first place?

Supa Ultra was more consistently R&B-influenced IMO (and also led off with "Cloud Aura"). Their quality seems about the same to me.

Tim F, Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:01 (six years ago) link

well then that must be why i don't listen to a lot of tumblr-pop

J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:03 (six years ago) link

i guess i mostly like pop to be bright and snappy and confident

idk i feel like she doesn't really put herself out there? i don't get a sense of vulnerability, it feels too hedged to me.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:08 (six years ago) link

"Take My Hand" is by far my favorite of the singles. What a banger.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:13 (six years ago) link

Agreed.

J0rdan you're not wrong, I just think it's amusing how the vaunted appeal and point of distinction of this music is also the thing likely to leave many pop listeners a bit cold. But the same point's probably been made many times upthread.

Tim F, Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:19 (six years ago) link

i find myself rooting for her because she seems really likable but there's something gloopy about this record that i find a bit impenetrable.

i wish she wasn't so likable tbh, or so eager to be liked - i feel like she's a really interesting voice and artist but there's a major label sheen, an eagerness to be pop, that doesn't sit quite right. like, i don't feel we should be judging this as "pop" at all - did we ever judge pj harvey or björk as "pop"? even though they were basically mainstream figures - but it's the album's doing that it positions itself like that.

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 3 June 2013 08:23 (six years ago) link

maybe some people will parse it as contrived but i get a real sense of vulnerability from "set me free" and "grins"

or maybe not so much vulnerability but at the very least her performances on those songs feel like she is having an ~emotional breakthrough~

monotony, Monday, 3 June 2013 08:48 (six years ago) link

waitwaitwait. how are "set me free" and "you're the one" NOT vulnerable? like, you can level all manner of accusations at them but "not vulnerable enough" is just fucking bizarre. (or "hedged" for that matter -- I mean I can't think of a single emotional stop that isn't pulled out.)

FWIW I don't see her as anything close to pj harvey or bjork and I highly doubt she's aiming for that, so it seems like a non-sequitur. she's far more '80s than '90s. like, you should be looking to mall-pop and freestyle, not alt-rock.

katherine, Monday, 3 June 2013 23:53 (six years ago) link

The reference point that snuck into my head somehow was early Bananarama but I haven't yet relistened to Deep Sea Skiving to determine whether there's any actual basis for that. Possibly I subconsciously absorbed the Shakespeare's Sister reference upthread.

It's actually interesting to think about the album's (non)relationship to 90s alt-rock - the clear absence of that vibe is a very now quality IMO. If this was released in the mid-to-late 90s it might have sounded more like the first Imogen Heap album maybe?

OTOH I haven't actually heard any Alisha's Attic albums from that period so maybe I'm wrong about this.

Tim F, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 00:58 (six years ago) link

The Goldroom remix of "You (Ha Ha Ha)", save the Macarena opening, is quite good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrrmtqVunt4

Me So Hormetic (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 01:35 (six years ago) link

new song "interior" is kind of hilarious

monotony, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 04:36 (six years ago) link

Saw on twitter someone saying she did a Backstreet Boys cover at her gig in W. DC last night. I don't know anything about her, so maybe that is not news to you folks who do (or maybe it is).

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 14:41 (six years ago) link

the album's (non)relationship to 90s alt-rock - the clear absence of that vibe is a very now quality IMO'''

it might have come more from 'i don't care' than the other material but i get a vague shirley manson/garbage vibe, where does that fit into this non-relationship?

[Actually 'i dont care' made me think especially of the song 'jellyhead' (the motiv8 remix), which is a good thing]

no fear, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 15:07 (six years ago) link

"I Don't Care" is Republica's "Ready To Go" X Transvision Vamp which means that its relationship to 90s alt-rock is stronger than Charli's own material but not significantly so.

Tim F, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 18:22 (six years ago) link

Can't see anyone mentioning Lock You Up, which I basically have in a loop in my head

"The Goldroom remix of "You (Ha Ha Ha)", save the Macarena opening, is quite good"
it is, including the macarena opening

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 20:40 (six years ago) link

this is like the 15th time I have heard a reference to republica in the past two months

katherine, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 23:15 (six years ago) link

Saw on twitter someone saying she did a Backstreet Boys cover at her gig in W. DC last night. I don't know anything about her, so maybe that is not news to you folks who do (or maybe it is).

See my previous post itt

kinder, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:11 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

ok this is amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPWcX-16A9Y

monotony, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:22 (six years ago) link

wow very nice

dyl, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:09 (six years ago) link

Yes, properly amazing. I've already played it six times.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:24 (six years ago) link

like the song quite a lot, :/ at the video because how many more 'western pop stars having a zany time in japan' videos do we need.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:14 (six years ago) link

the chorus feels more sugary than anything off 'true romance' but maybe i'm wrong on that point. more bubbly than take my hand, even.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:14 (six years ago) link

You're not wrong. This is Radio Disney drivel. Such a regression from True Romance.

Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 26 September 2013 17:09 (six years ago) link

>:(

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 26 September 2013 17:20 (six years ago) link

If this is what radio disney is like then i clearly need to be listening to a lot more radio disney

monotony, Friday, 27 September 2013 09:04 (six years ago) link

Anyone wanna buy my 2 tickets for her London Halloween show?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:18 (two weeks ago) link

I know someone who wants one ticket.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 10:44 (two weeks ago) link

Tell them to email me at samuelpooley @ gmail.com

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:04 (two weeks ago) link

Really loved the gig, Christine coming on was a moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALv5EnaXZbY

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 8 November 2019 16:01 (one week ago) link


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