Sonic Youth: Classic or Dud/S&D?

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shouldn't she be wearing pants

j., Monday, 22 April 2013 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha imagine thurston going to marriage counseling

j., Monday, 22 April 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

only in the house
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nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

Why did I think that article would give any clues as to whether there would be another SY album or not.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

ha, I was hoping to read something about that as well, looking less likely now for sure.

my mental killfile seems to be working (sleeve), Monday, 22 April 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

because it's in ELLE - a serious music magazine.

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

it's sure not sounding like it.

j., Monday, 22 April 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

they could make a (good) record without Gordon (but now without Moore of course)

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

not

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

Lee + Steve + Watt + Mascis album plz, Ciccone Youth 2

I know it'll never happen, but eh daydreams

Thirty-Six Views of ILX, by Mari3sa (WilliamC), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

if it will happen, it will probably be shit, so maybe it's better keep the fantasy

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

true

Thirty-Six Views of ILX, by Mari3sa (WilliamC), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

a record w/o Kim is not Sonic Youth, as they and anyone else should know

some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

OTM

my mental killfile seems to be working (sleeve), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

OTM

the Upperchest (crüt), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

they can call it something else but at least it has the potential of being good somehow

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

you can otm how much you want, but we all know a record of Sonic Youth/whatever without Kim, will be hyped as fuck all over, even here.

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

hey i'll check out almost anything any of them do outside the group, in any combination or individually, as i always have. if the whole band minus Kim went and did the most SY-ish thing they could under another name, though, that would leave a bad taste in my mouth.

some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

any album worthy of the name ought to have Kim involved, though if she declined an they started calling themselves something like "Thurston Moore's Sonic Youth" I would lol

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

like any good oldies circuit act etc

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

"Thurston Moore's Sonic Midlife Crisis" more like

willem, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

"Some years ago, a woman Gordon declines to name became a part of the Sonic Youth world, first as the girlfriend of an erstwhile band member and later as a partner on a literary project with Moore."

http://flowersandcreampress.com/about/ ?
http://www.ecstaticpeacelibrary.com/ ?

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

I'm curious which "Chicago art school" Coco is currently attending. I mean, I'd guess the Art Institute, but maybe Columbia College?

jaymc, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

i'm guessing eva prinz is the other woman, with very little basis

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

i'm guessing eva prinz is the other woman, with very little basis

Oh, your first link made me think it was Elaine Kahn.

jaymc, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i mean it says she lives in northampton

some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Why did I think that article would give any clues as to whether there would be another SY album or not.

― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, April 22, 2013 2:53 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha, I was hoping to read something about that as well, looking less likely now for sure.

― my mental killfile seems to be working (sleeve), Monday, April 22, 2013 2:54 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

because it's in ELLE - a serious music magazine.

― nostormo, Monday, April 22, 2013 2:55 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've read a lot worse in SERIOUS music magazines, enjoyed the article

why does sonic youth need to continue? they were a band for a long time

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

about eva prinz:
thats the rumor -

http://www.metafilter.com/112516/Sonic-Life

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

it has nothing to do w/ elle's ability to cover music, i think SM was just hoping there'd be some concrete reference to the band's future or lack thereof

some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

oh ha i didn't even see that kahn lives in northampton. there are a lot more photos of thurston and prinz together and a little bit of internet gossip linking them, that's why i guessed it was her.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

"she makes me feel young again"

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Phenomenal article, and all the comments about how Kim inspired the men in her circle to be better men rang very true.

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

enjoyed reading that elle profile. no great revelations, but a fine survey and tribute, and it sounds like she's doing okay (for whatever that's worth). looking forward to whatever comes next from all parties. agree that it would be kind of gauche for the band to continue on as sy without her, but a name's worth a lot and theirs more than most, so i wouldn't be too surprised.

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

yeah they really wouldn't though

some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

yeah they wouldn't.

whatever they do, i'm very skeptical of another really GREAT sy-related record in the future

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

her interest in Karen Carpenter, Madonna, and, more recently, Britney Spears lent them depth)

Her interest in them -- her rethinking of them -- has nothing to do with lending them depth.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

something sort of melancholic about the fact that this iconic avant garde/feminist couple broke up in this cliched midlife crisis kind of way

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it would be more awesome if they split over a fight about the importance of Britney Spears or something

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

would be more awesome if Britney wrote a song called "Kim Gordon and the Future of Rock Marriage"

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

something sort of melancholic about the fact that this iconic avant garde/feminist couple broke up in this cliched midlife crisis kind of way

― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, April 22, 2013 4:56 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. fucking hate it, tbh.

some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

guess it wasn't just his gutiar playing that was meandery.

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 22 April 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

but jokes aside, yeah it's one of those things that just makes me feel like the world is fucked up, like the end of crimes and misdemeanors.

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 22 April 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah, i completely agree that they won't use the name. not initially. but after a few years, especially if their other ventures aren't well received...

i don't know, obviously. anyway, re alfred: i thought the author's point was that kim's interest in those figures lent sonic youth depth, but perhaps i misunderstood.

the end of crimes and misdemeanors otm

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Monday, 22 April 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

what a surprise. Kim and Thurston are regular human beings after all.

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

Poor Kim, all having to sneak a peak at Thurston's phone. The momentous weight of the confirmed suspicion.:(

how's life, Monday, 22 April 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

my friend Kim
says "no not him"

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

would much rather see them carry on without thurston than without kim.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 22 April 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

de facto professor of modern feminist pop mystique (her interest in Karen Carpenter, Madonna, and, more recently, Britney Spears lent them depth).

Author does appear to be saying that Gordon's interest lent depth to the pop stars.

how's life, Monday, 22 April 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

The momentous weight of the confirmed suspicion.

i can't help but read this in lee's poetry voice

da croupier, Monday, 22 April 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link


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