Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

Red pandas, I mean. Which I think means they're communist

Or native American.

who judges the judges?

the Supreme Court?

reread thread, guess i can see where "Seriously?" could be read as a guffaw, hope it's clear twas not meant as such

so there's some stupid fucking anime game (dragon's crown) (this is all i know about it) with big tittied ladies and people are mad about it, which is fine, and the penny arcade asshole weighs in:

It’s very weird to pull up a story about a game with frankly visionary art and hear why it shouldn’t exist, or to hear what I supposedly fantasize about, or what kind of power I supposedly revere, and any attempt to defend oneself from these psychotic projections or to assert that creators may create is evidence of a dark seed sprouting in the heart. It’s an incredible state of affairs. They’re not censors, though - oh, no no. You’ll understand it eventually; what you need to do is censor yourself.

i just... hate this guy. this like george will smugness. it enrages me.

why am i even posting about penny arcade. we all know.

did this go unmentioned at the time? just started playing saboteur. the free-with-purchase dlc adds... tits.

afaict it adds no 'real' game content, but makes all the burlesque showgirls topless. jfc.

yo is that game any good? i got it for like a dollar but haven't even booted it up

concept, variety of activity, mission design (so far): good!
story, v/o, etc: average-to-poor. depends on your tolerance for one euro accent after another.
visuals, gameplay: average for 09, pretty dated now

goole that is terrible but I can't stop laughing

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/12/03/the-saboteur-day-one-dlc-unlocks-nudity-self-loathing/

sorry, it also adds "new Parisian hiding spots, [and] a new minigame"

there are lots of good reasons to hate oneself, but pixelated titties? eh

are the new parisian hiding spots in breasts?

no, those are exposed

"dragon's crown" is pretty bad as far as the fantasy title stakes go

i keep trying to think of a similarly useless (fantasy noun + possessive marker + fantasy noun) name but they all end up making more sense. chimeara's sword. orc's ring. goblin's robes. wtf does a dragon even want a crown for. mb he is ruling over other dragons, nm, is there a kingdom of dragons in this game, that could rule

someone posted some of the concept art upthread but it's been occluded by the whole panda thing

i like vanillaware generally

http://media.tumblr.com/1218669e5e644575b5dbff208b25c78a/tumblr_inline_ml6n4roM0q1qz4rgp.gif

generally

i mean it looks like a fun game?

did they run this feature before or after guy put his foot in his mouth i wonder

http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/you-dont-like-breasts-you-must-like-men-the-disappointing-conversation-and

dont read the comments dont read the comments why do i always read the comments

so for a game that does not come out for three months there is a hell of a lot of porn of this

... that walking gif looks kinda great actually

The hell is going on with the lumpy, horse-shaped amazon lady with a tiny head in that PA article thom posted? wtffff.

Coming this fall: R. Dragon's Crumb

ha, exactly!

i mean, i imagine an adventurer would get to have some pretty major thighs going on at some point. it's kind of funny kind of sad that the artist decided to exaggerate that to the level of fetish also?

http://media.tumblr.com/3d268e66b27bc9bf87c28c93f5c2a012/tumblr_inline_mk0u29OAgf1qz4rgp.gif

horsey

"Let's step back from the social justice aspect of this kind of artwork and deal with the fact that 9 year-old girls find it stupid. I'd love for her to see games and want to be these women, not simply recoil at the fact that they're designed for my eyes more than her power fantasies."

Wtf, this is exactly what the social justice aspect is!

it is and it isn't.

i. i think this is a good case for why 'casual racism and sexism are more accepted in video games than other media' is a bad way of phrasing the argument vs. something like 'more visible in video games than other media'. -- like, having sexed-up fantasy figures turned up to such a ridic degree makes it more obvious and undeniable that something's going on, that there is a problem here that needs addressing.

ii. kind of sad compared to previous form; a couple gay girls i know thought odin sphere was really amazing w/ the fairy princess types just whaling on guys and beating the shit out of them

iii. huh, i wanna play odin sphere

its on psn

i got it on sale on PSN a few weeks ago, been meaning to crack it

http://i.imgur.com/Vex0WGq.jpg

weirdly into that

Reminding me weirdly of some awesome Greek mythology picture books I devoured as a kid.

Somehow more erotic than his woman pics

This guy really might have a future in dude-on-dude art

None of them looks mysteriously like a horse

i would play a game like that, maybe based on the three kingdoms

http://i.imgur.com/008oKkZ.jpg

that is making me nostalgic for Dragon Force

wm blake + zangief + bear porn

zangief and bear porn are kind of the same already i guess

yup

Odin Sphere I managed to snag used at a late lamented Hollywood Video at the end of the PS2. It's worth playing.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/03/08/tropes-vs-women-series-launches-with-damsels-in-distress/

no talk about this? really well done imo

We talked about Sarkeesian a bit upthread.

Sarkeesian is such an easy target for internet trolls. I honestly wish she were a little more challenging and interesting but she's still among the better video game essayists if only due to the low bar.
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