Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

this is outside my ambit but as far as im concerned a gay asian dude can call himself whatever hte fuck he wants

not arguing that fact, you asked what i had against it

what im asking is, what puts you in a position to judge?

hooboy, not going down that road with you dude. are you genuinely offended/surprised that i wrote "seriously?" on the internet at a first exposure to the idea of a gay asian subgroup called "pandas"?

the whole subgroup may just be THE HENRY for all i know o'course

seriously thought forks wrote endangered outside the community and thought he was taking this all way too literally

http://www.barefootcollege.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/wwf20logo.gif

hooboy, not going down that road with you dude. are you genuinely offended/surprised that i wrote "seriously?" on the internet at a first exposure to the idea of a gay asian subgroup called "pandas"?

― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:54 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm just wondering what made u decide to share ur opinion about this topic that u have a lot of experience with

^solitary posts, etc
i decided to share my opinion precisely BECAUSE i have no experience with it and was hoping one of ilx's many all-purpose mavens would step up and let me know "yes this is a thing, here's some background *let me google that for you*" or alternately "i am a large gay asian man and ime this dude is on some ish that's just his own thing".
of course, this being ilx, i am being capn-save-a-panda'd

i'll take it that u acted in good faith, but u couldn't have phrased it in a better way??

iirc i actually typed "are asian bears seriously called pandas?" and then realised that i was inviting a zing

what im asking is, what puts you in a position to judge?

― 乒乓, Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

uhh judging owns

stfu

Actual pandas are not even bears, which makes this more confusing

Red pandas, I mean. Which I think means they're communist

Or native American.

who judges the judges?

the Supreme Court?

reread thread, guess i can see where "Seriously?" could be read as a guffaw, hope it's clear twas not meant as such

so there's some stupid fucking anime game (dragon's crown) (this is all i know about it) with big tittied ladies and people are mad about it, which is fine, and the penny arcade asshole weighs in:

It’s very weird to pull up a story about a game with frankly visionary art and hear why it shouldn’t exist, or to hear what I supposedly fantasize about, or what kind of power I supposedly revere, and any attempt to defend oneself from these psychotic projections or to assert that creators may create is evidence of a dark seed sprouting in the heart. It’s an incredible state of affairs. They’re not censors, though - oh, no no. You’ll understand it eventually; what you need to do is censor yourself.

i just... hate this guy. this like george will smugness. it enrages me.

why am i even posting about penny arcade. we all know.

did this go unmentioned at the time? just started playing saboteur. the free-with-purchase dlc adds... tits.

afaict it adds no 'real' game content, but makes all the burlesque showgirls topless. jfc.

yo is that game any good? i got it for like a dollar but haven't even booted it up

concept, variety of activity, mission design (so far): good!
story, v/o, etc: average-to-poor. depends on your tolerance for one euro accent after another.
visuals, gameplay: average for 09, pretty dated now

goole that is terrible but I can't stop laughing

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/12/03/the-saboteur-day-one-dlc-unlocks-nudity-self-loathing/

sorry, it also adds "new Parisian hiding spots, [and] a new minigame"

there are lots of good reasons to hate oneself, but pixelated titties? eh

are the new parisian hiding spots in breasts?

no, those are exposed

"dragon's crown" is pretty bad as far as the fantasy title stakes go

i keep trying to think of a similarly useless (fantasy noun + possessive marker + fantasy noun) name but they all end up making more sense. chimeara's sword. orc's ring. goblin's robes. wtf does a dragon even want a crown for. mb he is ruling over other dragons, nm, is there a kingdom of dragons in this game, that could rule

someone posted some of the concept art upthread but it's been occluded by the whole panda thing

i like vanillaware generally

http://media.tumblr.com/1218669e5e644575b5dbff208b25c78a/tumblr_inline_ml6n4roM0q1qz4rgp.gif

generally

i mean it looks like a fun game?

did they run this feature before or after guy put his foot in his mouth i wonder

http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/you-dont-like-breasts-you-must-like-men-the-disappointing-conversation-and

dont read the comments dont read the comments why do i always read the comments

so for a game that does not come out for three months there is a hell of a lot of porn of this

... that walking gif looks kinda great actually

The hell is going on with the lumpy, horse-shaped amazon lady with a tiny head in that PA article thom posted? wtffff.

Coming this fall: R. Dragon's Crumb

ha, exactly!

i mean, i imagine an adventurer would get to have some pretty major thighs going on at some point. it's kind of funny kind of sad that the artist decided to exaggerate that to the level of fetish also?

http://media.tumblr.com/3d268e66b27bc9bf87c28c93f5c2a012/tumblr_inline_mk0u29OAgf1qz4rgp.gif

horsey

"Let's step back from the social justice aspect of this kind of artwork and deal with the fact that 9 year-old girls find it stupid. I'd love for her to see games and want to be these women, not simply recoil at the fact that they're designed for my eyes more than her power fantasies."

Wtf, this is exactly what the social justice aspect is!

it is and it isn't.

i. i think this is a good case for why 'casual racism and sexism are more accepted in video games than other media' is a bad way of phrasing the argument vs. something like 'more visible in video games than other media'. -- like, having sexed-up fantasy figures turned up to such a ridic degree makes it more obvious and undeniable that something's going on, that there is a problem here that needs addressing.

ii. kind of sad compared to previous form; a couple gay girls i know thought odin sphere was really amazing w/ the fairy princess types just whaling on guys and beating the shit out of them

iii. huh, i wanna play odin sphere

its on psn

i got it on sale on PSN a few weeks ago, been meaning to crack it