Beatnik/Beat Generation Writers - Search & Destroy

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcsUW_LBJlk

scott seward, Friday, 19 April 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link

I became a much bigger Ben Hecht fan when I got older. I like hearing jack when he was younger and funny and lucid. he was quick. maybe not as quick as old man Hecht though.

scott seward, Friday, 19 April 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link

that cover of the subterraneans is amazing, xpost.

authentically inauthentic (Pat Finn), Friday, 19 April 2013 03:15 (ten years ago) link

i'm not sure how to articulate this but i like the lack of restraint, especially when read against the literary landscape of the time or whatever, the lack of restraint in putting things down in writing, and not just exciting stuff like getting your dick sucked but grocery list daily life bullshit that sort of makes legit and worthy those everyday, ugly things.

if i have to read kerouac, i've always liked dharma bums because it seems slow and nothing happens and even the parties seem pretty dull and it takes ages for the most mundane things to transpire and the overearnest depictions of ray thinking about buddhism are pleasantly ridiculous.

i like late burroughs, cities of the red night especially. but i like a lot of burroughs.

i sort of like gary snyder and rexroth but i do have trouble taking them seriously. it's interesting as someone interested in chinese literature and semi-interested in greater east asian literature to see how guys like snyder/rexroth approached it and it's fun to be frustrated by their misuses and misunderstandings of it.

dylannn, Friday, 19 April 2013 07:35 (ten years ago) link

not strictly a beat, but does anybody read terry southern any more? there's a great bit in the victor bockris bunker bk where southern and william s burroughs try out a grabbag of pharmaceutical drugs, just two crazy old hipster addicts hanging out.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 19 April 2013 07:46 (ten years ago) link

i like the lack of restraint, especially when read against the literary landscape of the time or whatever, the lack of restraint in putting things down in writing

i feel you on this, and i disagree with Alfred's all these guys spoiled two generations of kids into thinking revision, meter, and rhymes were restrictions, man. because yeah, there's a lot of beat stuff i don't want to read (again) but i'm glad that that style is an option, that there's a corrective to mannered, "tasteful", writing-class prissiness which has its own virtues too but shd never ever be the only game in town

Sarushima baby jive (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 April 2013 09:03 (ten years ago) link

feel like the 'two generations of kids' bit is giving them too much credit tbh

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Friday, 19 April 2013 09:07 (ten years ago) link

not strictly a beat, but does anybody read terry southern any more?

i read 'candy' and 'the magic christian' a few years ago and loved them both. feels like a type of humor that's all but disappeared -- both of them read a little like lenny bruce-style put-ons stretched out to novel length.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 19 April 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

five years pass...

bless him

kolarov spring (NickB), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link


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