Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks poll

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well yeah

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Would love to know what Tim Drummond thought.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

would love to introduce a non-English speaker to this album to help with pronunciation

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

This and Murmur

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

lol Alfred

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

"Love is so simple"
To quote a phRAAASE

cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

People talking about the singing being top-notch are otm. It's if during his vocal experiments with various types of bellowing and crooning he accidentally circled back to a version of his singing style on Highway 61/Blonde on Blonde, so you are getting overlapping Dylans, like an episode of Star Trek in which they go through an ion storm or The Gate on the Edge of Forever and end up interacting with their younger selves.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

whereas Street-Legal is his nadir as a vocalist.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

I really like the Rolling Thunder Revue version of Shelter From The Storm with the yelling and slide guitar etc., and the full-band, more country arrangement from the 90s that I think was posted here. I didn't like the album much, but that has to do with what a contrarian Dylan fan I am.
Same here. That's one of my favorite Dylan vocals.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

I ran into the fortune-teller, she said be-WARE of lightning that might STRYYYYAAIK
I haven't known peace and quiet for so long I can't remember what it's LIYEEEEK

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

Maclaine and Rambo

POSTOBON Naranja (soda), Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

While we're doing phonetic spelling, I challenge anyone to render all the different pronunciations of "idiot."

ee-YEAAAH-dee-UH
ee-EEEEE-dee-yot
yaaaAAAYYYyy-deee-at

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

you're an eeeeeeeH-DEE-yut babe

POSTOBON Naranja (soda), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'd like that song better if he weren't idiot enough to make it go on so long.

He has a lot of baggage (handlers' perks) (Michael White), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

rong it should never end

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

something about the line "every time you move your teeth" is so terrifying to me--such a savage way to describe talking

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

the 10min version of idiot wind on hard rain isn't as good as the bott version because it's more of a vicious cartoon and more like what the people itt who don't like the song hear in it, but it does have an incredible sarcastic intonation of AND IT MAKES ME FEEL SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SORRY which would prob be the definitive interpretation if it didn't flatten out all the emotional space. like, i prefer it when he is actually sorry. but sometimes.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

you guys are a lot nicer than I and maybe I am a psychopath is what this thread is teaching me. I love mean Dylan

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

at the height of my mixtape days I never put any Dylan on the love song ones. He shows more solicitude, patience, and look-you-in-the-eye honesty when he's hating a woman.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

I really like his singing on 'Nashville Skyline'.

He has a lot of baggage (handlers' perks) (Michael White), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

i think the sarcasm and meanness is present in the bott version too; it's just that amping them up crowds out what else is there. fun as it is. sara's supposed to be sitting in the front row at that concert too!

along the lines of breaking up on the docks that night: is the one-eyed undertaker blowing a futile horn or a feudal one, and does it make any difference

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

it's more of a vicious cartoon

this IS the best kind of cartoon tho

j., Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

i can't really think of a not-mean dylan love song that really works for me -- maybe 'all i really wanna do,' but that one seems more like a joke than anything. come to think of it, he doesn't really have many not-mean love songs. maybe 'i want you,' but i suspect there's some hate buried somewhere in those garbled images.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

'Lay lady lay' doesn't work for you?

He has a lot of baggage (handlers' perks) (Michael White), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

i can't really think of a not-mean dylan love song that really works for me -- maybe 'all i really wanna do,' but that one seems more like a joke than anything. come to think of it, he doesn't really have many not-mean love songs. maybe 'i want you,' but i suspect there's some hate buried somewhere in those garbled images.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:22 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can't either, but that's why I don't like Dylan more than I otherwise would, he just seems so mired in resentment throughout his career and it gets tiresome.

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

"Don't Think Twice It's Alright" is a great, beautiful, bitter breakup song that somehow lacks the cruelty of idiot wind, even though some of its lines are pretty mean -- they just sound more in line with the expected anger of the fed-up lover, whereas there's something much more terrible and terrifying in idiot wind (which, tbf, I guess is the difference between the breakup of a relatively short relationship between two young people and the breakup of a tumultuous marriage).

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

i prefer the sandie shaw version of 'lay lady lay.' i think dylan's voice is what makes it hard for me to take any of his love songs straight -- he can't avoid injecting some sarcasm or (fake?) smarm into his delivery.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

if you're going to Dylan for love songs, you're going to Dylan for the wrong reasons

beef richards (Mr. Que), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

"i'll be your baby tonight", "tonight i'll be staying here with you", "if not for you", "the man in me", "wedding song", "nobody cept you", "lonesome when you go" is a love song cuz she hasn't gone yet, i mean there are lots

"love minus zero/no limit" i mean is maybe some bullshit fascist poet-boy statement of ideals rather than a love song to an actual human sure but you can still use it as one if you want

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

"nobody cept you"

this is the first genuinely great love song of his that sprang to mind

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

"man in me" way up there too

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

o yeah if not for you, classic

beef richards (Mr. Que), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

that is the really weird thing to me about New Morning, it seems like one of the only Dylan albums where he's in an almost uniformly positive state of mind

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

dlh, otm

He has a lot of baggage (handlers' perks) (Michael White), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

New Morning is one of my favorite Dylan albums

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

graduating in july just before my birthday and totally listening to "day of the locusts" on repeat for 24 hours

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

'i'll be your baby tonight' is a great one, nashville skyline is prob the least mean dylan album there is.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

that's on JWH! at the end, where it suddenly turns into nashville skyline. yr comma might have denoted two totally separate thoughts tho.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

oops! first heard those two albums on a continuous mixtape someone made for me as a teen and still sort of think of them as being somehow the same.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

what i do have trouble thinking of tho, i realized looking at that list, is love songs pre-accident.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

xp haha well yes that would be very confusing.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

Dylan doesn't have any non-mean love songs?

A long time ago, I looked through most of his discography to make a compilation of my favourite Dylan love songs--not necessarily "lovey dovey" love songs, but Dylan-type love songs.

The non-mean love (lost) song that comes to mind is "Most of the Time". As do "Tomorrow Is a Long Time", "Mama, You Been on My Mind", "I Believe in You" (though I can see how this one is even more up to interpretation, but still). One that didn't make my playlist, but as others mention, is "If Not For You".

I can see how many songs are up to interpretation, but I've always thought only few songs about love were really mean, considering his vast discography and other songs.

He does have quite a few cynical/sarcastic songs, for sure, though.

c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

i guess "from a buick 6" is a love song. those early ones tho--no limit, she belongs to me, etc--he's usually just bragging about the object. i got a girl who, etc.. not a lot of actual communication--vows, gooey compliments--until after the accident. jd is right that "all i wanna do" is special i think cuz it's an exception.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

maybe all i mean here is third vs second person and maybe i am ascribing too much effect to it

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

at least he trusts women some of the time. I mean, "She said even the swap meets around here are getting pretty corrupt." She would know.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

ruby just smiled and said, oh you know some babies never learn

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

that swap meets line tho is kinda deceptive cuz it is prob the best line of his whole career

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

how bout "She’s everything I need and love but I can’t be swayed by that" from "Up to Me"?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

With regard to special and exceptions, what about "Sara"? Despite the nymph and Scorpio sphinx comment (again interpretation), I think it's a nice love song.

I can see how his real life kind of puts a strain on the songs themselves, because everyone sees Dylan vs. Baez.

c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link


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