Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks poll

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haha all these fantastic intonations on this album!

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

okay the "idiot wind" chorus still makes me catch my breath all these years after the first time i heard it.

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

and the organ makes you hurl

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

the way he sings "you're going to make me lonesome" is the dreamiest imo

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Some of the tunes on this I tend to like the bootleg series versions better. I really think there's just something very cramped-feeling about the record that makes it hard for me to stick with.

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

Could be any of the songs on side 1 for me, but I'm going with "Girl," for this part quoted above:

WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWITHAPAINTHATSTOPSANDSTARTS

New Authentic Everybootsy Collins (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah wonderful weirdo diction / intonation throughout. Always loved the wide gulf between Sessions "Idiot Wind" and the final version. Sessions version sung very properly / singer-songwritery; final version, dude can't keep from shouting all over the place, which sounds funny on those "arrrrrrrrrrr" rhymes.

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

the bootleg series version of Idiot Wind might be better, definitely casts the song in a less strident, more conflicted light:

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/7253080/Bob_Dylan_Idiot_Wind_Bootleg_Series_Vol_2

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Idiot Wind w/o a second thought, though. All-time sneer moments at the ends of the verses ("can't heeeelp it if I'm lucky" / "sweeeeeeeet lady" / "blooooooood on your saddle" / "YOU'RE ON THE BOTTOM") + the slow bleed from unbridled hate parade -> sad vulnerability/complicity is perfect.

Love Tony Brown's work all over the album, too.

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

yes i love "sweeeeeeeet lady"

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't listened to this album in years. Thanks, thread.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

this is difficult tbqh

Dylan at the peak of his powers imo. miracles of vocal phrasing abound.

"tangled" is the obvious frontrunner and 100% worthy but "shelter" and "idiot wind" are close and "jack" deserves votes for the melodic turn on "lily had already taken all of the dye out of her hair" alone.

inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

the "I'm complicit" stuff in Idiot Wind feels very unconvincing and cover-my-ass imo. I guess you could argue that that's just who the character of the speaker of the song is though, and that it's effective in that regard.

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

I’ll look for you in old Honolulu, San Francisco, Ashtabula

POSTOBON Naranja (soda), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

HONAHLULAH

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

this is a great record, i think Shelter from the Storm is my fave, but they're all great (even the lesser tracks like lily and meet me in the morning).

tylerw, Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

Ashtabula

every time I hear this I think "that's not a real place, is it?"

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

or is he just saying ras tabula

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

I used to think it was wordplay on tabula rasa, still not sure it isn't.

POSTOBON Naranja (soda), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Wiki facts I never knew:

Prior to recording, and while details regarding his return to Columbia Records were being fleshed out, Dylan previewed the songs that would make up Blood on the Tracks to a number of friends and peers in the music world. According to biographer Jimmy McDonough, Dylan visited Neil Young in his home in Florida to showcase the songs on the album and seek out Young's opinion, and even run through some of the songs with Young's group Crazy Horse.[14] Dylan also previewed the songs to David Crosby, Graham Nash, Stephen Stills, Tim Drummond, and Peter Rowan.[15] Notably, Graham Nash recalled that Stephen Stills disliked Dylan's private performance of his new songs: immediately after Dylan left the room, Stills remarked to Nash, "He's a good songwriter...but he's no musician."

Would LOVE to hear these songs with Crazy Horse

New Authentic Everybootsy Collins (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

haha that Stills nugget preserved in Shakey.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

think even Dylan would agree

Mark G, Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

i did always like the way he delivered "but I used a little too much force"

― charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:51 AM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark

same, he says it like its one word

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

The name Ashtabula comes from ashtepihəle, which means 'always enough fish to be shared around' in the Lenape language.

POSTOBON Naranja (soda), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

key source for "buckets of rain"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVbRh2p1sbA

tylerw, Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

haha yeah poor stills he comes off as the most pathetic aggro hippie salieri in a full length fur coat in Shakey

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

I never even got as far as objecting to mean Dylan with Idiot Wind -- something about the cadence and the shoutyness and look I'm queen of IA is anyone really that surprised that I find it annoying lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

also I've had this line in my head all morning

Kinda like VERLAINES and RimBAUD

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

anniNEVerDOgetYEWSt'it

inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

isn't it RAM-BOH

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

well yeah

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Would love to know what Tim Drummond thought.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

would love to introduce a non-English speaker to this album to help with pronunciation

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

This and Murmur

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

lol Alfred

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

"Love is so simple"
To quote a phRAAASE

cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

People talking about the singing being top-notch are otm. It's if during his vocal experiments with various types of bellowing and crooning he accidentally circled back to a version of his singing style on Highway 61/Blonde on Blonde, so you are getting overlapping Dylans, like an episode of Star Trek in which they go through an ion storm or The Gate on the Edge of Forever and end up interacting with their younger selves.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

whereas Street-Legal is his nadir as a vocalist.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

I really like the Rolling Thunder Revue version of Shelter From The Storm with the yelling and slide guitar etc., and the full-band, more country arrangement from the 90s that I think was posted here. I didn't like the album much, but that has to do with what a contrarian Dylan fan I am.
Same here. That's one of my favorite Dylan vocals.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

I ran into the fortune-teller, she said be-WARE of lightning that might STRYYYYAAIK
I haven't known peace and quiet for so long I can't remember what it's LIYEEEEK

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

Maclaine and Rambo

POSTOBON Naranja (soda), Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

While we're doing phonetic spelling, I challenge anyone to render all the different pronunciations of "idiot."

ee-YEAAAH-dee-UH
ee-EEEEE-dee-yot
yaaaAAAYYYyy-deee-at

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

you're an eeeeeeeH-DEE-yut babe

POSTOBON Naranja (soda), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'd like that song better if he weren't idiot enough to make it go on so long.

He has a lot of baggage (handlers' perks) (Michael White), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

rong it should never end

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

something about the line "every time you move your teeth" is so terrifying to me--such a savage way to describe talking

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

the 10min version of idiot wind on hard rain isn't as good as the bott version because it's more of a vicious cartoon and more like what the people itt who don't like the song hear in it, but it does have an incredible sarcastic intonation of AND IT MAKES ME FEEL SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SORRY which would prob be the definitive interpretation if it didn't flatten out all the emotional space. like, i prefer it when he is actually sorry. but sometimes.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

you guys are a lot nicer than I and maybe I am a psychopath is what this thread is teaching me. I love mean Dylan

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link


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