Circle (the Finnish band): S/D

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also listened to circle's suur-pori the other day. fairly aimless jam session. not sure it even needed a cassette release, really.

original bgm, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 05:01 (eleven years ago) link

Still haven't played those new cassettes! I'm looking forward to the Ektroverde one most. The Circle/Verde Giardino was pretty WTF and perhaps not really necessary too, ha. Still glad to have it.

I still really love that last Kuusumun album also. It really hits the spot. I agree it is very American Football!! I haven't thought about that band in years.

The PO split with Grails has one super good new song along the lines of P0 #3 (except with way busier guitars!) and one song that is some weird slowed down jam ala Guillotine which is kind of a let down after that first song but still interesting, a real head scratcher. I need to spend more time with it.

liam fennell, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

the ektroverde tape is fun! I like giardino as well.

sounds like I need to hear that split since #3 is easily my favorite PO. trying to imagine busy guitars on top of that ultra-minimal sound...

original bgm, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

The PO is really cool! Leppanen and the two brother guitar guys, one left channel and one right, really own it. Someone put the first song up on youtube I guess:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzx9dqKSslw

The second song might not be slowed down, I did a close listen and it's possible they might be playing with extreme discipline, ha.

liam fennell, Thursday, 18 April 2013 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

I have to say I think Suur-Pori is awesome and totally essential! I don't find it aimless at all, just confusing in the best possible way. If Leppanen wasn't there as an anchor it'd be harder to take but he IS there and so is Janne Tuomi! Good stuff, I can't believe it's 80 minutes long. Still the best and most interesting working band in the world that I know of!

The Ektroverde tape seems to be the complete session of the Music for Supermarket EP, and is indeed fun and charming in a quirky, robotic way.

New Ratto ja Lehtisalo 7" is really great too. Very colorful!!!

liam fennell, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

guess I have to give suur-pori another listen, huh? maybe I just wasn't in the mood?

dug that PO track, thanks for posting.

original bgm, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

No prob, Alan. They had put that PO song up on Soundcloud at one point but I guess they took it down after the album came out.

As far as suur-pori I guess it depends on how much you appreciate confusing improvisation, ha. It is something I personally really go in for when the performers have very distinct personalities like these guys! I listened with headphones and had a lot of fun but I did only listen to only one side of the cassette at a time. The whole thing is indeed a bit much for one sitting!

Maybe it's worth listening for the percussionist's contribution, he is always adding subtle color, and also the work of the mixer guy. The latter is very active in shaping the overall sound and adding the effects (they never had effect pedals the times I've caught them live at least.)

liam fennell, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

yup, I'm definitely into improv, so I'll listen again soon and hone in on the percussion. ;-) I honestly don't remember much about it at this point (only listened once) except that I found it a bit too 'jammy' for my tastes.

also recently spun the second ratto ja lehtisalo record for the first time and it's been on high rotation ever since. pretty killer. love all the percussive vocal stuff on it.

original bgm, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

I know, right! Glad you checked it out. That Ratto ja Lehtisalo is so neglected and so fascinating. The typewriter song is so funny. And also the one that is like "jue jue, ou ou ou, knock knock, push push, bebopaloolaloolaloola" is just out of this world with the goofy chanting contrasted by the kind of sacred church atmosphere!

Did you ever hear their side of the split 12" they did with Reverend Bizarro? So great, along the same lines vocally as the 2nd album but with motorik Leppanen drumming, electric guitar & synthesizers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPPFIfeulZk

liam fennell, Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

no, I'd never heard this until just now, but wow, I love it!

original bgm, Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

and yeah, the typewriter and "knock, knock, push, push" tracks are both hilarious and great!

original bgm, Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

listening again, and although they don't sound awfully similar, this one definitely reminds me of pharoah overlord #3. both lps strip things down about as far as they reasonably can and this intense focus really makes individual elements pop out. the impact of sounds interacting magnifies and becomes a lot of fun for the listener to follow and the introduction of new elements gets more dramatic as well.

original bgm, Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

It's always a happy day when a new package from Aquarius shows up on my desk with new Circle. This time I picked up Manner on CD (already had the vinyl, but hey) and the Golem/Vesilirto reissue. Particularly excited for the latter, as I've not heard that one at all yet.

i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

The Manner, Golem/Vesiliirto and Horn reissues are all essential! The bonus tracks on the latter two are pretty unexciting, though. Jon, if you get a chance let us know what you make of G/V, it's pretty confusing stuff! I find the Vesiliirto disc in particular pretty rewarding with the manic clockwork drumming, bass noodling and strange swirling freak out space organ.

I agree about the POs, Alan. I always thought #3 was super skeletal, it is so stark and high contrast. Maybe the artwork also reinforced this reading! They just sound so great as a band unit. The timbre of the drums and the bass is so delicious. Focused. And the guitars are so very insistent and tastefully stripped down. I also love how you can hear the minute mistakes, a stray missed drum hit or a single dead guitar note, they don't go back and overdub everything to perfection, they get a great performance and let it breathe and live - in high fidelity!

The two guitar playing brothers are pretty interesting on the newer Circle and PO albums, they aren't so rigid/disciplined and they often improvise and let their guitars get all tangled together in a very organic way. Which is part of the fun in listening to Suur-Pori. They work in unison. I don't know if they are actually twins, but they sound like twins. You can't really tell them apart, kind of like when the Beach Boy brothers harmony sing together. It is a cool dynamic!

liam fennell, Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Heh, I've only had a chance to spin G/V once so far, but right now I'm slightly preferring the studio stuff - there is a nice jazz vibe going on that I really love.

Speaking of Pharoah Overlord, I swung by a shop yesterday afternoon and picked up not only the Horn reissue, but also CD copies of #3 and #4! I was pretty excited to find 'em all at once.

i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 May 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

Ha, you're going to have a lot of fun with that haul! Cool shop! The ersatz metal of #4 might not line up with most people's tastes but I sure think it's a blast.

liam fennell, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 11:42 (ten years ago) link

Well I've heard both #3 and #4 before, just happy to finally have copies of each.

i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Falcon (ex-Circle): https://soundcloud.com/ektrorecords/falcon-ex-circle-beer-and-ribs

First heard talk of this a year ago, thanks to a Finnish magazine interview with Jussi, but they're only just announcing it. I think it is a crazy but brilliant idea.

Falcon (ex-Circle) kicks off by whacking on the table the hit single Beer and Ribs. Strongly influenced by AOR and soft rock, this catchy rocker knocks on the doors of shady radio playlist cabinets. The lowest common denominators and the hottest rock and roll clichés launch Falcon (ex-Circle) as the rock heaven's wildest new name, whose success story is just waiting to be written down. Slashing riffs, speeding synths, motorik beats and soulful vocals are combined with the dazzling vision and flair of these experienced rock veterans.

"From 1991 through 2013, Falcon operated under the name of Circle. The need for the sudden name change arises from the Circle brand's becoming somewhat of a burden due to the expectations of Ektro Records and audiences. Making music was turning into work and an obligation. The Circle brand has been leased to a group of artists, who are currently working on the next Circle album. The full-lengths of both Falcon (ex-Circle) and Circle will be released later this autumn. The current plan is that the lease contract dissolves by the end of 2013 and the Circle brand will be returned to Falcon, who then may continue under the name Circle (ex-Falcon). All Circle concerts booked for 2013 will be performed by Circle's long standing line-up: Mika Rättö, Janne Westerlund, Jussi Lehtisalo, Tomi Leppänen, Pekka Jääskeläinen, Julius Jääskeläinen, Tuomas Laurila." Jussi Lehtisalo / Falcon (ex-Circle)

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

What? What's happening?

a head-tailed cat (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 27 June 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link

Basically...

Circle as we know them (Jussi, Janne, Mika, Tomi, Pekka, Julius & Tuomas) are tired of being Circle, so they are changing their name to Falcon (ex-Circle) in order to produce their likely twisted take on AOR/soft rock.

They are then leasing 'Circle' as a kind of brand to another band, as yet revealed, who will produce records under the Circle name.

After a short while Jussi et al will claim back the Circle name and henceforth be known as Circle (ex-Falcon).

Brilliant madness!

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Thursday, 27 June 2013 07:38 (ten years ago) link

*as yet unrevealed

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Thursday, 27 June 2013 07:39 (ten years ago) link

Ex-Circle not to be confused with Circle X

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Thursday, 27 June 2013 08:16 (ten years ago) link

or a collaboration w/ The Ex

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 27 June 2013 08:51 (ten years ago) link

I would like to hear that. Also I approve of this clearly insane idea.

voivod songs that mention poutine (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 27 June 2013 08:56 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, me too, ha. So funny and not at all problematic. The Manner album was kind of moving away from the normal circle M.O. towards this more hard rock through-composed song oriented style so I'm sure the temporary name change will be liberating for all parties.

I'm really happy Jussi is doing a cd compilation of his two LPs, I hope more people will check his stuff out now. They're both pretty staggering albums, Interludes for Prepared Beast being especially unique, otherworldly and masterful.

liam fennell, Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:46 (ten years ago) link

If we are united in our support of the idea, what does anyone think of the first Falcon (ex-Circle) song, Beer & Ribs?

My first reaction was to laugh, then to feel a bit non-plussed, but now I do keep finding myself humming it as I cycle about.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Sunday, 30 June 2013 09:34 (ten years ago) link

I think a whole album will be really fun! Also interesting is the fact Jussi even bothered to explain what's happening, he usually just sends the music out and you're left scratching your head. Kind of crazy to think the band is 20+ years old at this point!

Six Day Run soundtrack LP is pretty fun, too, albeit short. Side two gives off a distinct Taantumus vibe to my ears and in the best way possible.

liam fennell, Monday, 1 July 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link

And my interview is up...

http://thequietus.com/articles/12768-circle-interview

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 July 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link

Thanks Ned.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Monday, 8 July 2013 09:59 (ten years ago) link

Wonderful! Thanks :)

liam fennell, Monday, 8 July 2013 12:12 (ten years ago) link

Jussi is the subject of the Invisible Jukebox feature in the new edition of the Wire (the one with Rob Mazurek on the cover). That lad really loves his Loop! Am I right in thinking that the name Circle is partly an homage to them?

Ralph Vogon Williams (NickB), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link

Yes!!! Almost definitely, ha. Meronia and the early singles always seemed very Loop-y to me. I don't think they've ever covered a Loop song but PO did a very faithful rendition of the Spacemen 3 song Revolution on Horn.

liam fennell, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link

http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue7/circle04.html

Teemu Elo, one of the Circle guitarists for quite a while up through Taantumus confirms it here, I knew I read it somewhere at one point.

liam fennell, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

The Wire: Listen - Jussi Lehtisalo tracks
http://thewire.co.uk/audio/tracks/listen_jussi-lehtisalo-tracks

Liinu, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Who here went to Berlin? How was it? I was raging I couldn't afford it. It was announced too late for me to get cheap flights

FRUG, Thursday, 8 August 2013 09:51 (ten years ago) link

Heard from a friend who went about the PO gig being shut down... lame!!

FRUG, Monday, 12 August 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link

what happened?

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 12 August 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link

German review here: http://www.taz.de/1/berlin/tazplan-kultur/artikel/?dig=2013%2F08%2F09%2Fa0171&cHash=25dbaa62005b660386d52debfe1a501a

Apparently it was shut down late on (23:20) because of noise complaints from neighbours.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 08:33 (ten years ago) link

Lame!

The Falcon 7" is hilarious and quite good. The B side really is AOR!!!

The Arkhamin Kirvasto is pretty great too. The guitar guy Samae Koskinen from AK is a member of Falcon it seems, or at least for now. So there are 4 guitar players here!? Crazy!

I just ran across this excellent Jussi interview about AK on their facebook page:

http://www.metal-observer.com/articles.php?lid=1&sid=4&id=19240

"I am a fan of actual physical records, and remember well the time before the internet when people sent letters and cassettes to each other. On the other hand, I am excited that information can now be transmitted and shared so fast, and I have found lots of interesting music via internet. One thing has not changed, though: one has to listen to the music. It is not enough to have it in yellow folders and have read a wikipedia page about a genre or artist. You have to want music, so that it can strike you with its million volts."

<3 x infinity

liam fennell, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link

Both sets in Berlin were fantastic! The small venue was like a finnish sauna, the drummer had to take a couple of short breaks to get some fresh air. The first night was stunning: Janne Westerlund's solo gig followed by AOR-Circle. Circle (or should I say Falcon) played both new and old material: 'Beer and Ribs' from the new single, as well as 'Point' from their second single. I think Janne had a couple of new songs in his solo set.

Pharaoh Overlord featuring Hans-Joachim Irmler was beyond awesome on the second night! They played some songs from Horn as well as earlier material. Absolutely fantastic! And yes, police knocked on the door after about 50 minutes, 1 hour and told them to stop. Apparently someone had complained about the noise. It was already past 11 pm, probably around 23:20 as Krakow said. They wanted to play one more song (Revolution, I think), but decided it was best not to argue with a police officer. Fantastic gig anyway!

Liinu, Thursday, 15 August 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

i feel like i liked circle (the finnish band) better when they were more mysterious/finnish and less beer & ribs

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link

i dunno manner and rautatie from just a few years back are still doing my head in

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Teaser tracks by Circle (the new death-metal line-up) and Falcon (ex-Circle)

https://soundcloud.com/ektrorecords/circle-incarnation
https://soundcloud.com/ektrorecords/falcon-ex-circle-partners-in

Albums out in October!

Liinu, Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link

Gah, sorry! Albums out in November, not October!

Liinu, Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

nice . . . just so happen to be listening to their cover of "hear come the warm jets" on manner

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link

In here we don't have actually have drummer jokes but bass player jokes. (Though most of the actual jokes are still the same ones told about drummers in the Anglo word.) I've no idea what's the reason for this difference...

Tuomas, Thursday, 24 October 2013 11:29 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

i love "Sunset Street"

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Monday, 2 December 2013 10:31 (ten years ago) link


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