Oh god! 'Rock Your Body' is playing RIGHT NOW at the coffee shop.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 15 April 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
xpost that's a good analysis doctor casino, i wouldn't disagree with any of that.
― Pat Finn, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
so the New Jersey is the album that rides in on a wave of rose-colored goodwill generated by its predecessor and mimics its successes enough to tap that enthusiasm but in retrospect you must admit the thrill is gone
― anonanon, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 03:46 (eleven years ago) link
It wasn't Lonesome Jubilee that foreshadowed Mellencamp's decline, but the follow up Big Daddy. Remeber "Pop Singer"? From their on out Mellencamp''s albums got more serious and even ponderous. But Jubilee is an excellent album.
― jetfan, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:18 (eleven years ago) link
does goat's head soup count for this? there are some great tracks on it, but it definitely marks the end of their "classic" era.
― authentically inauthentic (Pat Finn), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
ah, sorry i see that's been covered already
― authentically inauthentic (Pat Finn), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
commercially Lonesome Jubilee is the only album that could plausibly qualify as Mellencamp's New Jersey, and someone cooouuld argue the album's two top tens ("Paper In Fire" and "Check It Out") from that album haven't stayed in the public consciousness like his earlier songs that had similar chart peaks ("Pink Houses," "Small Town"). But the fact that Mellencamp made such a self-conscious turn away from the marketplace with Big Daddy does cloud things.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
think "Cherry Bomb" was the other top ten (can't check Wiki now) but it's understandable: both start with "Ch"
Mellencamp returned to pop singer records on Whenever We Wanted and Human Wheels but this was the point at which the VH-1 and teen audience parted company. "Get a Leg Up" a minor hit. He wouldn't score another top five (his last) until "Wild Night" in '94.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I switched the "ch" singles, sorry. point stands, though - what keeps it from being an obvious New Jersey is that some people think it's better than Scarecrow, and that the "career decline" was self-inflicted after jubilee.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
did we mention INXS's X?
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 13:10 (eleven years ago) link
I think so, though it only went 2xplat so it didn't qualify for the poll
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 13:26 (eleven years ago) link
god, I hope The Knife's album doesn't end up as this. (I really like it, but then I also really liked Born This Way.)
― katherine, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
That Shins album that debuted at #1 on the Billboard chartSigur Ros' ()LCD Soundsystem's first album (challops! Yes it was a hit, but there was nothing on there as good as the singles that had already been released, and the magic was already gone)
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 9 May 2013 04:00 (eleven years ago) link
interpol - our love to admire?
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 9 May 2013 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
Men at Work, Cargo
― pplains, Thursday, 9 May 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
Queens of the Stone Age "lullabies to paralyze"Liz Phair "Whitechocolatespaceegg" or whateverTha Carter 4 defREM's is "New Adventures in Hi-Fi," not "Monster."Smashing Pumpkins' is "Adore," not "Mellon Collie"
Beck is kinda huge and he doesn't have a New Jersey.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 06:38 (eleven years ago) link
Actually Beck's might be "The Information." I know a lot of people that really love "Guero."
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 06:41 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maim9sAJRO1qdtw7so4_250.gif
― Euler, Thursday, 9 May 2013 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
xp My idea of a career decline doesn't include a record as good as Sound of Silver tbh
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 9 May 2013 11:02 (eleven years ago) link
REM's is "New Adventures in Hi-Fi," not "Monster."
it didn't go multiplatinum
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 May 2013 11:54 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I definitely think Monster is the New Jersey of R.E.M.'s catalogue.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 9 May 2013 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
Guess you could throw Hail To The Thief into this, too.
― illegalblues, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't read the whole thread but that bono gif makes me wonder : what was U2's already ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
This was disputed repeatedly, "Rattle & Hum" fits in the sense of "huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow" but "career decline" doesn't quite hold up. Apparently it's "How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb."
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
hum. I don't know anybody who owns or likes "dismantle" (and I've never listened to it).I'd rather say "zooropa" or "pop" but maybe it's more linked to my own interest in that band.anyway, I won't get into the dispute...thanks for the update !
will "random access memory" be daft punk's "new jersey" ? (or was it "human after all" ?)
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
I think "dismantle" may actually have been a huge album but just not in the world of anybody I hang out or talk to, see also that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
Dismantle, definitely.
HTTF wasn't that much of an event album and In Rainbows is no decline. I think Radiohead managed to rewrite the rock-career script sufficiently to avoid a New Jersey. With the greatest respect to Amnesiac, it was no Slippery When Wet.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
every time someone on this thread says what their friends thought about an album that didn't even gold, I kill an angel.
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
The King Of Limbs may be Radiohead's New Jersey... a huge amount of people were waiting in anticipation for it on the back of In Rainbows and a large percentage of those people were ultimately disappointed. If their next album is shite, then it undoubtedly is The King Of Limbs.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
*kills angel*
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
hey now, KoL went gold
that poor angle, murdered for nothing
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
much like my speling
yeah, yeah, but the angel still had to die on principle
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
xp I guess based on Beck's non-platinum status for several of his albums, he's ineligible for a New Jersey.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
the idea was to limit the concept to albums and artists that were actually "huge," so that we could nerd out over stats rather than have dinks debating which Apples In Stereo album was the first to suck
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
that reminds me, This Timeless Turning was totally Sky Cries Mary's New Jersey
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
no way, everybody at my college radio station was mad excited about Exit At The Axis and I always knew that was poopie and nobody talk about it now, totally their new jersey
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
isn't Beck kinda huger than whatever weirdo bands you guys are joking about?
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
"Fugue in D minor" was totally Bach's New Jersey. It was all downhill after that.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
Hey now, I am just encouraging what I think is a specifically hilarious fit of pique, no need to get defensive.
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
haha i realize i'm being ridiculous, believe me. but i'm still going to wail on anybody who either can't grasp the concept, can't bother to read the thread, or check wikipedia to verify their hunches about which albums sold how much. if a chart nerd can't police a chart nerd thread then what's the point in being a chart nerd.
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
chart groupies
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
no i'm like creed, i spurn them on route to the stage and then float above the throng
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
and this thread is the hotel bar where i wait for 311 to walk by
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
Were there New Jersey's prior to the '80s?
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
there was definitely a thread prior to today
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
oh yes, i see a couple listed now. 95% of these are after the mid 80s
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
well that's partially a factor of poster age and comfort zone mixed in with the context of calling it a "New Jersey"; clearly the phenomenon has existed since people started buying music
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
also the fact that gauging multiplatinum success is easier after the riaa starting giving out the multi-platinum awards
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
In 1976, RIAA introduced the platinum certification, first awarded to Johnnie Taylor's single, "Disco Lady", and to the Eagles album, Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975). As music sales increased with the introduction of compact discs, the RIAA created the Multi-Platinum award in 1984. Diamond awards, honoring those artists whose sales of singles or albums reached 10,000,000 copies, were introduced in 1999.
so basically, the only pre-80s albums to have multi-platinum certification are the ones who bother to get it
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link