in facts it works BETTER
― zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 15 April 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
yeah morbs otm
― balls, Monday, 15 April 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
Speaking as someone that's in the doc, I see it as in impressionistic document of the Kubrick research subculture. No conclusions, but that's not what the doc intended. For "case building" seek out, the many self-made youtube docs out there. What's funny about all the extreme reactions to the POVs in the film, is that, in the context of Shining research at large, they are among the more mainstream, reasonable approaches (even Weidner!) The really crazy people didn't make the cut! I know that all of the narrators in the film enjoyed the finished product, and are all kind of surprised by the negative reaction by some of the audience ... just goes to show that different people can see the same thing very differently. Such is ambiguity!
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Monday, 15 April 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
okay, so were you the moon landing guy
― gr8 tr∞lls i have known (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 April 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
i agree with SD, the film works best if you approach the theories a ride you allow yourself to go along on as long as possible until you circle back and realize "oh god i'm in too deep, how far back was the last logical argument, where am i even anymore"
― ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Monday, 15 April 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
and "will i ever be able to watch a movie the same way ever again"
― ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Monday, 15 April 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
xp: lawls, I'm the forwards/backwards guy with the screaming kid who says "like" all the time.
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Monday, 15 April 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
but siriusly ... http://kdk12.tumblr.com/private/40157429425/tumblr_mdm1mzJlgC1qjt9ph
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Monday, 15 April 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
ohhhh. good work with forward backwards show, that was a definite high point.
― gr8 tr∞lls i have known (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 April 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i big upped you way up thread -- srsly my favorite part of the film
― ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Monday, 15 April 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
For the record, I was the moon landing guy
― urine for a treat (latebloomer), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
I am the minotaur fwiw.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h_v_our_Q
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
Forwards/backwards was effing brilliant. You'd think it would be a mess but all the shots they showed were very beautiful.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
Just watched the doc, pretty decent quality version up on Piratebay btw.Interesting stuff.
Now got to watch the film again
― Stevolende, Thursday, 18 April 2013 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
disclosure, know the room 237 producer, old friend, but yeah Morbs otm. the point of Room 237 is not to say "here's some stuff you may not have noticed." it's about all this insane shit a bunch of people believe about a movie and imo about how the power of Kubrick's technical facility is so great that some people, seeing it, become convinced that some greater truth has to lie underneath these brilliantly-composed shots
Just watched the doc, pretty decent quality version up on Piratebay btw.
I'll tell my dude, I'm sure he'll be super-stoked
― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 April 2013 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
Stoked because that's where he got his Shining footage too?
― pplains, Thursday, 18 April 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
also tell him that perfect, hi def ripped copies are all over the internet
― The Great Forgiver (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 18 April 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
you're blowing minds there don
― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 April 2013 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
seeing the shining in theaters tonight, bringing a notebook and my tinfoil hat
― H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 April 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
You're so much smarter than me, and you know, connected because you have a producer bro on "Room 237." Sorry, I forgot.
― The Great Forgiver (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
What is that moon city thing from?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
This is going entirely too far, try Paths of Glory
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
it's ok, just don't let it happen again
― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
Parts of Paths of Glory were actually filmed on the moon.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
that major battle scene v much looks it.
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
I really enjoyed Room 237 ( and loved the backwards/forwards bits btw). Reminded me again how awesome Kubrick is and how I miss this kind of filmmaking. I was also put in mind of the book "The Making of Kubrick's 2001" which I read obsessively as a kid when I first saw that movie. It kind of does the same thing for 2001 as Room 237 does for The Shining - catalogues tons of stuff you missed and give numerous perspectives on what it's all about. Kubrick put so much thought and effort into the details so it's fun to have it all laid out.
― everything, Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
I saw the 237 trailer the other night--doesn't appear to have been posted yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL1fTlH81gU
Obviously I get the connection to the movie, but I'm not sure why a VCR...is it just that the movie came out around the time videos started to take off? Anyway, great trailer.
― clemenza, Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link
it's about people going nuts from watching the shining a billion times on vhs. the frame rate is incompatible with human cognition.
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Thursday, 25 April 2013 02:04 (ten years ago) link
Okay--that helps explain a few things about mom.
― clemenza, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:20 (ten years ago) link
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/s480x480/485555_472558386147442_923294254_n.jpg
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 April 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
A few doors down the hall; no big deal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsGtXCDu48Y
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 May 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
What is up with the music in Room 237? It's really bad.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 11 May 2013 12:16 (ten years ago) link
whats creepy about that 227 joke is that the other woman is still there behind the curtain
― calstars, Saturday, 11 May 2013 12:29 (ten years ago) link
i loved the music in room 237, it fit with the film's whole vibe
― gr8080, Saturday, 11 May 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link
Yikes, calstars.
― pplains, Saturday, 11 May 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
i know a couple of the people who did the music for room 237 (saw it last night) - i thought it was actually a high point of the film - granted it's almost impossible to compare to Bartok, Ligeti, and Penderecki (from the Shining itself) - but I liked it.
I felt like the structure of the documentary was a bit clunky, and the whole thing was too long, and that it didn't go far enough into absurdity.
― You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
your mom didn't go far enough into absurdity
― 乒乓, Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
please post more enlightening comments! you are such a brilliant poster!
― You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
YOU'RE such a brilliant poster
― gr8080, Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link
didn't read this thread, but feeling hostile vibes from the most recent two comments. fitting, i think.
― Treeship, Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
i wish we could stay in this thread, forever...and ever...and ever.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
xp - one of whom is grady!
― You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
whenever i'm in here, and you hear me typing... or whether you DON'T hear me typing, or whatever the FUCK you hear me doing in here, when i'm IN here, that means i am POSTING. THAT means DON'T COME IN.
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
make a cartoon of that and get very internet famous overnight and then drink to forget you did that
― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 May 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
^ warming up the autotune
― balls, Saturday, 11 May 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
how much will you pay me to either name the next aerosmith album that or to not do that
― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 May 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
haha I will contribute $50 towards that venture
― gr8080, Saturday, 11 May 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
The Shilling
― i gave ten pounds and all i got was a lousy * (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 May 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
Room 237 is quite something. I'd seen a Jay Weidner film/Q&A two summers ago, so I already knew about all that, but you can definitely become immersed in this film at a level apart from the theories themselves. Keeping the interviews in voiceover was a great decision, and I loved the incorporation of non-Shining clips (mostly but not all from Kubrick films); it sets out to be dreamlike, and I think it is. The impressive thing about the theories is how rarely I found myself thinking, "Oh, please" (the rare egregious example was Ullman's deus ex machina erection). The one I liked best was the idea of "pastness." Not saying I buy any of them, but the theorists pull you in. I also thought the backwards/forwards stuff was a trip--realizing you'd undoubtedly turn up the same amazing juxtapositions with any worthwhile film.
I've seen The Shining enough times by now that I don't think the film will necessarily get any better for me: I'll still love the same things, and still be less enthusiastic about others. But these people are impressive.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:58 (ten years ago) link