The Shining

all of *waves hand upward* that

I saw "Room 237", and it was OK. About a third of the commentators just sort of annoyed me and the pacing was quite off. Near the start there are sequences where the movie is played in super slow motion while someone awkwardly describes what is going on onscreen before describing crossfades that make complete sense as standard techniques you would use if you know anything about editing. Though yes the Hitler stash was funny. But I feel like the most compelling stuff was the Native American narrative, which was in here but chopped up among other things. Maybe i wish they had taken 3 major themes and studied them in order, rather than sort of jumping between them. It certainly would have helped build the case for each section. I can't believe nobody analyzing it for Nazi references didn't point out the red doors looking like the big red Nazi flag while 3 minutes were spent watching luggage being brought in in super slow motion.

Production value on this was pretty damn good! Plenty of times I wanted to know the name of the movies they were showing inbetween all the Kubrick footage, and the motion-tracked TV-swaps were always spot-on and looked really cool. Again, the commentators sometimes got on my nerves and I wished they had just hired a voice over actor to read all the stuff. Then again this movie is about how different people each bring a unique perspective so it probably would have lost some of that.

The moon landing thing was cool, but too short! Gimme more! Was kind of hoping they'd delve into 2001 at this point, do more front-projection analysis, etc. That image of cities on the moon? WTF? That was so great!! Where is that from?

LOL @ referencing Physical Cosmologies. Still my favorite Shining resource. The forwards-backwards part was pretty amazing. I'd heard about it when it came out and it sounded sort of cool but sort of gimmicky and dumb, but now I really want to see it!

"Room 237" was a good time and next time I was "The Shining" I'll probably have to keep a notepad by my side. Can't wait to see it again and watch for all the cool new stuff this has made me aware of.

I couldn't have been less interested in a "case-building" approach. This film works if you believe that it's all horseshit.

Oh yeah the part where the lady is going on about the guy with the split head and the big reveal is that her kid told her a story that involved a guy w a split head, and an axe, and all that. Well, it would make sense, if you are rewatching "The Shining" over and over, that your kid is going to pick up on the imagery!

Really i kinda want a full KUBRICK DID THE MOON LANDING documentary.

http://store.sacredmysteriesmarketplace.com/kubrick-s-odyssey-part-1-dvd.html

Hardly surprising that there'll be no ding dong tbf.

I couldn't have been less interested in a "case-building" approach. This film works if you believe that it's all horseshit.

― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Monday, April 15, 2013 11:29 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

totally otm

in facts it works BETTER

yeah morbs otm

Speaking as someone that's in the doc, I see it as in impressionistic document of the Kubrick research subculture. No conclusions, but that's not what the doc intended. For "case building" seek out, the many self-made youtube docs out there. What's funny about all the extreme reactions to the POVs in the film, is that, in the context of Shining research at large, they are among the more mainstream, reasonable approaches (even Weidner!)
The really crazy people didn't make the cut!
I know that all of the narrators in the film enjoyed the finished product, and are all kind of surprised by the negative reaction by some of the audience ... just goes to show that different people can see the same thing very differently. Such is ambiguity!

okay, so were you the moon landing guy

i agree with SD, the film works best if you approach the theories a ride you allow yourself to go along on as long as possible until you circle back and realize "oh god i'm in too deep, how far back was the last logical argument, where am i even anymore"

and "will i ever be able to watch a movie the same way ever again"

xp: lawls, I'm the forwards/backwards guy with the screaming kid who says "like" all the time.

but siriusly ... http://kdk12.tumblr.com/private/40157429425/tumblr_mdm1mzJlgC1qjt9ph

ohhhh. good work with forward backwards show, that was a definite high point.

yeah i big upped you way up thread -- srsly my favorite part of the film

For the record, I was the moon landing guy

I am the minotaur fwiw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h_v_our_Q

Forwards/backwards was effing brilliant. You'd think it would be a mess but all the shots they showed were very beautiful.

Just watched the doc, pretty decent quality version up on Piratebay btw.
Interesting stuff.

Now got to watch the film again

disclosure, know the room 237 producer, old friend, but yeah Morbs otm. the point of Room 237 is not to say "here's some stuff you may not have noticed." it's about all this insane shit a bunch of people believe about a movie and imo about how the power of Kubrick's technical facility is so great that some people, seeing it, become convinced that some greater truth has to lie underneath these brilliantly-composed shots

Just watched the doc, pretty decent quality version up on Piratebay btw.

I'll tell my dude, I'm sure he'll be super-stoked

Stoked because that's where he got his Shining footage too?

also tell him that perfect, hi def ripped copies are all over the internet

you're blowing minds there don

seeing the shining in theaters tonight, bringing a notebook and my tinfoil hat

you're blowing minds there don

You're so much smarter than me, and you know, connected because you have a producer bro on "Room 237." Sorry, I forgot.

What is that moon city thing from?

Now got to watch the film again

This is going entirely too far, try Paths of Glory

You're so much smarter than me, and you know, connected because you have a producer bro on "Room 237." Sorry, I forgot.

it's ok, just don't let it happen again

Parts of Paths of Glory were actually filmed on the moon.

that major battle scene v much looks it.

I really enjoyed Room 237 ( and loved the backwards/forwards bits btw). Reminded me again how awesome Kubrick is and how I miss this kind of filmmaking. I was also put in mind of the book "The Making of Kubrick's 2001" which I read obsessively as a kid when I first saw that movie. It kind of does the same thing for 2001 as Room 237 does for The Shining - catalogues tons of stuff you missed and give numerous perspectives on what it's all about. Kubrick put so much thought and effort into the details so it's fun to have it all laid out.

I saw the 237 trailer the other night--doesn't appear to have been posted yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL1fTlH81gU

Obviously I get the connection to the movie, but I'm not sure why a VCR...is it just that the movie came out around the time videos started to take off? Anyway, great trailer.

it's about people going nuts from watching the shining a billion times on vhs. the frame rate is incompatible with human cognition.

Okay--that helps explain a few things about mom.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/s480x480/485555_472558386147442_923294254_n.jpg

A few doors down the hall; no big deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsGtXCDu48Y

What is up with the music in Room 237? It's really bad.

whats creepy about that 227 joke is that the other woman is still there behind the curtain

i loved the music in room 237, it fit with the film's whole vibe

Yikes, calstars.

i know a couple of the people who did the music for room 237 (saw it last night) - i thought it was actually a high point of the film - granted it's almost impossible to compare to Bartok, Ligeti, and Penderecki (from the Shining itself) - but I liked it.

I felt like the structure of the documentary was a bit clunky, and the whole thing was too long, and that it didn't go far enough into absurdity.

your mom didn't go far enough into absurdity

please post more enlightening comments! you are such a brilliant poster!

YOU'RE such a brilliant poster

didn't read this thread, but feeling hostile vibes from the most recent two comments. fitting, i think.

i wish we could stay in this thread, forever...and ever...and ever.