Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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乒乓, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 03:02 (eleven years ago) link

honestly though this is less about the acceptance of racism/sexism in games tho and more about BI not being very good at being a mature story or w/e

― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:43 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark

the casual use of the history of oppressed peoples to make your video game have ~moral heft~ is probably the exact kind of casual racism that fits within the ambit of this thread

nb i havent played BI

乒乓, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 03:12 (eleven years ago) link

i meant that my comment was about above, not the conversation at large

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link

http://theyreallsobeautiful.com/interview-with-evan-narcisse/

乒乓, Sunday, 21 April 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link

THE HENRY
I am a: hairy Asian muscle panda

no idea an asian bear was a panda i mean yes i get it but seriously?

H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 April 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link

that was new to me too

Nhex, Sunday, 21 April 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link

what do you have against it xp

乒乓, Sunday, 21 April 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link

just that it sounds like the kinda thing that would be racist if it was engendered outside the community? and it's not really clear that it was? like is a black bear a... well i dunno, a black bear?

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

this is outside my ambit but as far as im concerned a gay asian dude can call himself whatever hte fuck he wants

乒乓, Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link

not arguing that fact, you asked what i had against it

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link

what im asking is, what puts you in a position to judge?

乒乓, Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link

hooboy, not going down that road with you dude. are you genuinely offended/surprised that i wrote "seriously?" on the internet at a first exposure to the idea of a gay asian subgroup called "pandas"?

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link

the whole subgroup may just be THE HENRY for all i know o'course

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link

seriously thought forks wrote endangered outside the community and thought he was taking this all way too literally

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link

hooboy, not going down that road with you dude. are you genuinely offended/surprised that i wrote "seriously?" on the internet at a first exposure to the idea of a gay asian subgroup called "pandas"?

― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:54 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm just wondering what made u decide to share ur opinion about this topic that u have a lot of experience with

乒乓, Monday, 22 April 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link

^solitary posts, etc
i decided to share my opinion precisely BECAUSE i have no experience with it and was hoping one of ilx's many all-purpose mavens would step up and let me know "yes this is a thing, here's some background *let me google that for you*" or alternately "i am a large gay asian man and ime this dude is on some ish that's just his own thing".
of course, this being ilx, i am being capn-save-a-panda'd

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:14 (ten years ago) link

i'll take it that u acted in good faith, but u couldn't have phrased it in a better way??

乒乓, Monday, 22 April 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link

iirc i actually typed "are asian bears seriously called pandas?" and then realised that i was inviting a zing

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link

what im asking is, what puts you in a position to judge?

― 乒乓, Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

uhh judging owns

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link

stfu

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link

Actual pandas are not even bears, which makes this more confusing

Dr. Adorbius (mh), Monday, 22 April 2013 03:32 (ten years ago) link

Red pandas, I mean. Which I think means they're communist

Dr. Adorbius (mh), Monday, 22 April 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link

Or native American.

how's life, Monday, 22 April 2013 10:29 (ten years ago) link

who judges the judges?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 April 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link

the Supreme Court?

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 April 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link

reread thread, guess i can see where "Seriously?" could be read as a guffaw, hope it's clear twas not meant as such

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 April 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link

so there's some stupid fucking anime game (dragon's crown) (this is all i know about it) with big tittied ladies and people are mad about it, which is fine, and the penny arcade asshole weighs in:

It’s very weird to pull up a story about a game with frankly visionary art and hear why it shouldn’t exist, or to hear what I supposedly fantasize about, or what kind of power I supposedly revere, and any attempt to defend oneself from these psychotic projections or to assert that creators may create is evidence of a dark seed sprouting in the heart. It’s an incredible state of affairs. They’re not censors, though - oh, no no. You’ll understand it eventually; what you need to do is censor yourself.

i just... hate this guy. this like george will smugness. it enrages me.

adam, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

why am i even posting about penny arcade. we all know.

adam, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link

did this go unmentioned at the time? just started playing saboteur. the free-with-purchase dlc adds... tits.

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link

afaict it adds no 'real' game content, but makes all the burlesque showgirls topless. jfc.

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link

yo is that game any good? i got it for like a dollar but haven't even booted it up

adam, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

concept, variety of activity, mission design (so far): good!
story, v/o, etc: average-to-poor. depends on your tolerance for one euro accent after another.
visuals, gameplay: average for 09, pretty dated now

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

goole that is terrible but I can't stop laughing

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/12/03/the-saboteur-day-one-dlc-unlocks-nudity-self-loathing/

sorry, it also adds "new Parisian hiding spots, [and] a new minigame"

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

there are lots of good reasons to hate oneself, but pixelated titties? eh

Nhex, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

are the new parisian hiding spots in breasts?

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link

no, those are exposed

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link

"dragon's crown" is pretty bad as far as the fantasy title stakes go

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link

i keep trying to think of a similarly useless (fantasy noun + possessive marker + fantasy noun) name but they all end up making more sense. chimeara's sword. orc's ring. goblin's robes. wtf does a dragon even want a crown for. mb he is ruling over other dragons, nm, is there a kingdom of dragons in this game, that could rule

someone posted some of the concept art upthread but it's been occluded by the whole panda thing

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

i like vanillaware generally

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link

generally

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

i mean it looks like a fun game?

did they run this feature before or after guy put his foot in his mouth i wonder

http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/you-dont-like-breasts-you-must-like-men-the-disappointing-conversation-and

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link

dont read the comments dont read the comments why do i always read the comments

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link

so for a game that does not come out for three months there is a hell of a lot of porn of this

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

... that walking gif looks kinda great actually

Nhex, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

The hell is going on with the lumpy, horse-shaped amazon lady with a tiny head in that PA article thom posted? wtffff.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:02 (ten years ago) link

Coming this fall: R. Dragon's Crumb

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link

ha, exactly!

Nhex, Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link


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