Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

They reckon about 1-2% comment. And as always it's not even a majority of the commenters that are terrible, just that the bad ones are like dragging a comb through your brain every time you read their megaparagraphs of MRA nonsense.

http://www.abc.net.au/arts/stories/s3733057.htm

Nice article. A harsh assessment - anyone who's played through B:I want to chime in?

Errant Signal also has a good new video about this. It does seem pretty weak, though I don't really recall B:I being promoted as an intelligent piece of art any more than a cool steampunk game.

They've definitely talked it up as such, at least to the gaming press. The article does some justice to their attempt. However, the ubiquitous TV ads definitely go in the direction of steampunky manshoot.

I haven't gotten far in the game but far enough to see the "throw the ball" section he mentions in that article as well as the "history exhibit" section... a few people i have spoken to are all losing their minds over this game for being clever and arty of course (these are the people who thought the same thing of the first game though which is just o_O to me).

thing is i am not sure i would put these comments in the "casual racism" thread because it doesn't feel racist so much as it just feels profoundly fucking stupid (and maybe kind of irresponsible in its stupidity) -- imo mr. golding hits the nail on the head.

ehhh it's not great but i would rather have a video game that acknowledged ugly parts of american history, even in a glib facile way, than not. baby steps yall.

i wish yoshi's island acknowledged the ugly parts of american history

definitely some robber-baron critique going on with wario

wario is a hurtful stereotype, probably. i'm not italian so

an australian video game criticism article was more effective at making me interested in an american history thing/what that american history thing means than the game it's criticizing did. tbf i'm non-american... but still.

honestly though this is less about the acceptance of racism/sexism in games tho and more about BI not being very good at being a mature story or w/e

I think you're right about that, tho the whole rickety crashing end to the story really is fun. Except for all the press f to trigger next cutscene approach

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honestly though this is less about the acceptance of racism/sexism in games tho and more about BI not being very good at being a mature story or w/e

― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:43 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark

the casual use of the history of oppressed peoples to make your video game have ~moral heft~ is probably the exact kind of casual racism that fits within the ambit of this thread

nb i havent played BI

i meant that my comment was about above, not the conversation at large

http://theyreallsobeautiful.com/interview-with-evan-narcisse/

THE HENRY
I am a: hairy Asian muscle panda

that was new to me too

what do you have against it xp

just that it sounds like the kinda thing that would be racist if it was engendered outside the community? and it's not really clear that it was? like is a black bear a... well i dunno, a black bear?

this is outside my ambit but as far as im concerned a gay asian dude can call himself whatever hte fuck he wants

not arguing that fact, you asked what i had against it

what im asking is, what puts you in a position to judge?

hooboy, not going down that road with you dude. are you genuinely offended/surprised that i wrote "seriously?" on the internet at a first exposure to the idea of a gay asian subgroup called "pandas"?

the whole subgroup may just be THE HENRY for all i know o'course

seriously thought forks wrote endangered outside the community and thought he was taking this all way too literally

http://www.barefootcollege.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/wwf20logo.gif

hooboy, not going down that road with you dude. are you genuinely offended/surprised that i wrote "seriously?" on the internet at a first exposure to the idea of a gay asian subgroup called "pandas"?

― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:54 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm just wondering what made u decide to share ur opinion about this topic that u have a lot of experience with

^solitary posts, etc
i decided to share my opinion precisely BECAUSE i have no experience with it and was hoping one of ilx's many all-purpose mavens would step up and let me know "yes this is a thing, here's some background *let me google that for you*" or alternately "i am a large gay asian man and ime this dude is on some ish that's just his own thing".
of course, this being ilx, i am being capn-save-a-panda'd

i'll take it that u acted in good faith, but u couldn't have phrased it in a better way??

iirc i actually typed "are asian bears seriously called pandas?" and then realised that i was inviting a zing

what im asking is, what puts you in a position to judge?

― 乒乓, Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

uhh judging owns

stfu

Actual pandas are not even bears, which makes this more confusing

Red pandas, I mean. Which I think means they're communist

Or native American.

who judges the judges?

the Supreme Court?

reread thread, guess i can see where "Seriously?" could be read as a guffaw, hope it's clear twas not meant as such

so there's some stupid fucking anime game (dragon's crown) (this is all i know about it) with big tittied ladies and people are mad about it, which is fine, and the penny arcade asshole weighs in:

It’s very weird to pull up a story about a game with frankly visionary art and hear why it shouldn’t exist, or to hear what I supposedly fantasize about, or what kind of power I supposedly revere, and any attempt to defend oneself from these psychotic projections or to assert that creators may create is evidence of a dark seed sprouting in the heart. It’s an incredible state of affairs. They’re not censors, though - oh, no no. You’ll understand it eventually; what you need to do is censor yourself.

i just... hate this guy. this like george will smugness. it enrages me.

why am i even posting about penny arcade. we all know.

did this go unmentioned at the time? just started playing saboteur. the free-with-purchase dlc adds... tits.

afaict it adds no 'real' game content, but makes all the burlesque showgirls topless. jfc.

yo is that game any good? i got it for like a dollar but haven't even booted it up

concept, variety of activity, mission design (so far): good!
story, v/o, etc: average-to-poor. depends on your tolerance for one euro accent after another.
visuals, gameplay: average for 09, pretty dated now

goole that is terrible but I can't stop laughing

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/12/03/the-saboteur-day-one-dlc-unlocks-nudity-self-loathing/

sorry, it also adds "new Parisian hiding spots, [and] a new minigame"

there are lots of good reasons to hate oneself, but pixelated titties? eh

are the new parisian hiding spots in breasts?

no, those are exposed