HANNIBAL on NBC seems amazing and therefore deserves it's own thread!

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i was laughing a lot! i thought it had a good mix of dry humor to contrast with will graham's slightly overdone bundle of exposed nerves thing

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 April 2013 02:08 (six years ago) link

curious what the long plan is for this, iirc they intend for hannibal to be found out at end of this season, next season on the run or whatever (though aren't they doing red dragon this season???), will they eventually bring in clarice starling in season four or whatever?

this made me think of you ade


balls, Monday, 8 April 2013 02:15 (six years ago) link

lol yeah i saw that. the laugh at you cuz you're all the same banner is my fav detail

i just assumed they're gonna milk the lecter-graham team for as long as they can, maybe over multiple seasons. i havent read anything that the show creator has said about their plans though

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 April 2013 02:29 (six years ago) link

s1ocki you have to at least appreciate the random appearance of Scott Thompson

I, rrational (mh), Monday, 8 April 2013 02:59 (six years ago) link

holy shit that was incredible

zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 8 April 2013 04:17 (six years ago) link

it really seemed like a kids in the hall sketch for a second

zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 8 April 2013 04:17 (six years ago) link

it would also be a pretty great running joke if dude is was just unwittingly eating body parts the whole season

zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 8 April 2013 04:19 (six years ago) link

I couldn't tell if he was supposed to be on the FBI team or the locals. I assumed locals and the casting decisions was something like, "We need someone who can play a Minnesotan." "I'm Canadian!" "Close enough."

I, rrational (mh), Monday, 8 April 2013 13:40 (six years ago) link

man i hope he's a regular

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 April 2013 15:12 (six years ago) link

Scott Thompson ...
Jimmy Price (13 episodes, 2013)


I, rrational (mh), Monday, 8 April 2013 15:36 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I assume everyone shown this episode is going to be part of the Bones team - concerned lady profiler; Scott Thompson; sassy lab tech woman. That's part of my concern, aside from Scott Thompson being awesome - aside from Hannibal himself, there doesn't appear to be much separating this from all the other slaughterfest procedurals.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:39 (six years ago) link

There's an overarching plot, and the overly-empathetic profiler that they worry about is going to be going to Hannibal (who they think is totally cool) for his therapy?

I, rrational (mh), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:47 (six years ago) link

I thought that the guy playing the profiler looks a bit like Manhunter-era William Petersen, which is a nice touch, in a way.

I, rrational (mh), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:49 (six years ago) link

what if he teams up with CSI william petersen for a crossover, now that i would watch

zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 8 April 2013 19:42 (six years ago) link

although i always liked the theory that CSI petersen was the same character as in manhunter but older and mellower

zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 8 April 2013 19:42 (six years ago) link

well, obviously

I, rrational (mh), Monday, 8 April 2013 19:42 (six years ago) link

i've seen red dragon more recently than manhunter so i'm drawing from that but isn't o.g. will's thing not so much that he's a profiler w/ magical empathic capabilities but that he is the profile to a degree? he doesn't have to imagine what it's like to be motivated by envy, covetousness or contempt; it's just below the surface and he just has to let go of the controls just a little bit. like he's stuck in a luke skywalker moment every day of his life where he has to actively choose between oppositional forces because they have equal valence.

slugbuggy, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 16:51 (six years ago) link

I watched the first two eps last night and really enjoyed them! Not the greatest thing ever but I don't really watch any procedurals so I'm happy to have this one.

It's an international co-production so NBC will make all the episodes of the first season order and will air them (they're actually very good for that, Do No Harm excepted). It saw a ratings uptick from week one to week two (take it with a pinch of a salt as it was up against repeats for ep 2) but it was also the best ratings they've had in the Thursday 10pm timeslot in a year (since the premiere of Awake, which dropped off quite severely in it's second week).

I have enough trust in Bryan Fuller that I think this'll be worth the investment in whatever short first season this has got. I actually like Hugh Dancy in this, which surprised me.

Gukbe, Saturday, 13 April 2013 14:59 (six years ago) link

The ratings for week two was really encouraging! Everything NBC has put in this timeslot since 2009 has failed completely, so being flat in week two is no small feat! If it stays like this, they could quite conceivably renew this for a second season, since the chance of something else doing better is very, very low. I really, really want Bryan Fuller to have some kind of succes. He was fired from Dead Like Me, so so far his longest running series is 22 episodes of Pushing Daisies...

Frederik B, Sunday, 14 April 2013 10:48 (six years ago) link

the chance of something else doing better is very, very low

irrelevant, this is nbc

j., Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:11 (six years ago) link

ok so am I watching this or not

ilx convince me

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:17 (six years ago) link

watch it imo

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:22 (six years ago) link

i hope thats convincing

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:22 (six years ago) link



set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:25 (six years ago) link

Mushroom corpses

Gukbe, Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:44 (six years ago) link

seconded, it's not top tier great but it's very good and seems fairly different for a network drama, closer to something like zodiac than dexter (nowhere near as good as zodiac obv just in line w/ fincher saying that w/ zodiac he wanted to make a serial killer movie that serial killer's wouldn't like, an anti-se7en), show is aware that murder is horrible and devestating. lecter is recognizably lector w/o owing any clear debt to hopkins at all.

balls, Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:48 (six years ago) link

that last part is otm and key for me - mikkelson's lector is really enjoyable, and i thought i was beyond tired of the character. i havent watched the 2nd ep yet tho

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:57 (six years ago) link

okay I'm double sold now

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 April 2013 21:09 (six years ago) link

Best horror show to grave tv in maybe ever?

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Sunday, 14 April 2013 21:48 (six years ago) link

best that's not an anthology series maybe, i was impressed w/ how effective it was as horror though. there was a scene in the last ep where they peel that body's face off in the mushroom field and i thought 'wow, that was on network tv'.

balls, Sunday, 14 April 2013 22:13 (six years ago) link

I was at dinner today and mushrooms were served and I don't think I realized how much this episode affected me until then. I felt so ill.

The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Sunday, 14 April 2013 23:17 (six years ago) link

I don't think it is a great series after 2 eps, but it is still early days and I like the aesthetic. Mads seems a bit on autopilot and maybe it should be a lot better, but it is still better than your average tv series right now. The human organ/food thing that is creeping in is very unsettling. If Dexter doesn't get it's act together this could be it's displacer.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Sunday, 14 April 2013 23:52 (six years ago) link

Dexter's sucked for years

I, rrational (mh), Monday, 15 April 2013 02:20 (six years ago) link

I'm really liking this so far. Something about the cast and the combination of understated but effective horror (stuff like Will hallucinating the enormous stag in the hospital, or the semi-alive mushroom victim that they somehow refrained from staging with a big music sting and shock cut) and low-key ugh I hate this word but it fits "quirkiness" is really doing it for me. Are all of Fuller's shows this appealing?

Oh, and the breakfast scramble Hannibal was serving up in episode 2 looked amazing. Does that make me a bad person?

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Monday, 15 April 2013 04:22 (six years ago) link

On second viewing: the stag had mushrooms covering it?

I, rrational (mh), Monday, 15 April 2013 04:40 (six years ago) link

Are all of Fuller's shows this appealing?

I think so, but keep in mind that Hannibal is darker and less humorous than his previous shows. I would say Pushing Daisies would be the one to watch if you like Hannibal, although it is much goofier and sweeter.

The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Monday, 15 April 2013 11:02 (six years ago) link

Okay so NBC wasn't cool with dead children so they've skipped Episode 4 altogether (in other countries the whole episode will be online), but they've handily put up the scenes from it that are arc-heavy online so we're not all behind: http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/controversial-hannibal-episode-gets-sliced-into-webisodes

Because lol NBC

Gukbe, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:13 (six years ago) link

It is ridiculous, already watched some web rips of ep 4 which don't contain any of the contentious plot and then into ep 5 where SA Will Graham is extra fucked up but we have missed out why he is more fucked up than usual. Silly NBC ....

Jason Dowd, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:27 (six years ago) link

pilot was pretty good. i wonder if the 'following' people are watching and feeling embarrassed.

j., Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:47 (six years ago) link

they sure should be

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:01 (six years ago) link

wow, didn't realize this was from the guy who created 'wonderfalls.' i rewatched that show last year and it still holds up.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:53 (six years ago) link

Caroline Dhavernas is in this

Gukbe, Friday, 26 April 2013 00:37 (six years ago) link

I am still annoyed that they pulled ep 4. When it is just an ott fictional series about serial killers, someone in the USA is always going to be feeling raw about murder on any given week. This series is just starting to roll good as well, fucking NBC idiots.

Jason Dowd, Friday, 26 April 2013 01:32 (six years ago) link

i'm hopeful that a copy of the pulled ep will end up online, since they're reportedly not pulling it from overseas markets? of course, i don't know when these overseas markets will air it either.

a sentimental knife (reddening), Friday, 26 April 2013 01:52 (six years ago) link

oh, according to tumblr, the pulled ep airs next week (4/30) overseas. i might wait to download that and then watch tonight's.

a sentimental knife (reddening), Friday, 26 April 2013 02:11 (six years ago) link

yeah i'll just wait myself. apparently the pulled ep was one they didn't even screen for critics so i'm guessing they were already crazy squeamish and then the bombings tipped the scales. apparently no real plans to air in the us at all?

balls, Friday, 26 April 2013 02:15 (six years ago) link

according to that article i linked up there, Deadline reported that it was going to be pulled before the bombings. who knows? Maybe Molly Shannon isn't a good serial killer. I'll be fine with just watching the important serialized bits they put online.

Gukbe, Friday, 26 April 2013 04:41 (six years ago) link

this last episode was really grotesque. sort of can't believe they're showing things like this on network tv.

Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Saturday, 27 April 2013 22:05 (six years ago) link

yeah i got the willies from those "angel wings"

mackleless (latebloomer), Sunday, 28 April 2013 00:10 (six years ago) link

the unaired ep is now floating around online (doing a tumblr tag search for "hannibal" shows at least one d/l link).

a sentimental knife (reddening), Monday, 29 April 2013 00:38 (six years ago) link

Real want to rewatch this again right away, but am trying to let more time pass. Now that I know the shape of the characters, it will be different enough viewing.

And xpost above, I liked Alana a lot more in the 3rd season.

Yerac, Monday, 15 April 2019 13:15 (six months ago) link

rewatch revealed to me that i like alana throughout, although i think it's unfortunate they pair her with hannibal for little reason other than how gross and horrible it is (the dual sex scene however makes it worth it??? i think)

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 April 2019 13:17 (six months ago) link

there are a lot of things about season two i'd consider individually weak (some of the serial killers of the week especially sociopathic social worker vs. stable guy sewing dead people into horses; how it takes two full episodes to introduce mason (???)) but the writing and the long game the show is playing make them work

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 April 2019 13:20 (six months ago) link

i enjoyed thinking of hannibal as the showrunner of season two, throwing people who had absolutely nothing to do with each other (will/margot/mason) into a weird dramatic plot device about pregnancy. hannibal also casts himself in will graham's role at the very start of the season, so he's basically the writer/director/star of this particular vortex of killings anyway

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 April 2019 13:23 (six months ago) link

There should be absolutely no ??? about whether the dual sex scene was worth it.

Yerac, Monday, 15 April 2019 13:50 (six months ago) link

sociopathic social worker vs. stable guy

I enjoyed that episode but I'm also a fan of Jeremy Davies doing Jeremy Davies types of characters

mh, Monday, 15 April 2019 13:57 (six months ago) link

There should be absolutely no ??? about whether the dual sex scene was worth it.

― Yerac, Monday, April 15, 2019 6:50 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's one of the finest scenes in the show

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:23 (six months ago) link

No one ever made out in a pool of blood did they?

Yerac, Monday, 15 April 2019 15:30 (six months ago) link

Hannibal’s response to the human muralist killer in the grain silo never fails to make me laugh

Killer: There is no god
Hannibal: Certainly not with that attitude

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 04:31 (six months ago) link


Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 05:12 (six months ago) link

We should do an ilx group rewatch of this over some holiday.

Yerac, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 12:45 (six months ago) link


j., Tuesday, 16 April 2019 13:41 (six months ago) link

he is risen and would like some sherry

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:15 (six months ago) link

I was thinking the month of December for the holidays, but I guess that is far off. I think my spouse would get mildly worried if I rewatched it right after we finished.

Yerac, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:49 (six months ago) link

I kind of can't believe but am thankful that EW listed every outfit Hannibal wore.


Yerac, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:51 (six months ago) link

the first half of season three is exactly as wonderful as i remembered. i know this show is stylistic overflow all the time but the dialogue is straight up beautiful writing at this point

also the abigail fake-out got me all over again

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 26 April 2019 01:34 (five months ago) link

definitely my favorite television show of all time

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 26 April 2019 01:36 (five months ago) link

yeah that section is my fave stretch of the whole show probably

Simon H., Friday, 26 April 2019 01:52 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

hannibal = frasier
will = niles
crawford = dad
alana bloom = roz
freddie = daphne moon

will's dogs = eddie

mark s, Monday, 15 July 2019 19:35 (three months ago) link

sir, how dare you.

Yerac, Monday, 15 July 2019 19:42 (three months ago) link

gillian anderson = lilith

mark s, Monday, 15 July 2019 19:47 (three months ago) link

lol i mean dr bedelia du maurier

mark s, Monday, 15 July 2019 19:49 (three months ago) link

I might be misremembering, but I think that one episode where Norm came to town ended with Frasier coercing him into fileting his own face?

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 July 2019 19:49 (three months ago) link

lol @ bedelia as lilith

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 15 July 2019 20:04 (three months ago) link

i mean only the dogs don't work really

mark s, Monday, 15 July 2019 20:05 (three months ago) link

lol this thread just took a right turn straight into the bin

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 04:49 (three months ago) link

I need someone to mark this thread as safe once this incident is over.

Yerac, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 09:15 (three months ago) link

i cleared up the case by getting inside yr heads

mark s, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 09:16 (three months ago) link

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