Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

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Watched a little bit of two of the Phase II episodes on Youtube. The acting and the way the dialogue was recorded are both kind of questionable, but the sets and effects are pretty cool and definitely look like The Original Series. Think some of the scripts were later adapted for The Next Generation.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 April 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

They even put the old NBC peacock logo at the beginning as if it were 1966 all over again.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 April 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

And short blackouts where the commercials would have gone.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 April 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

As well as guest appearances by various actors who appeared in memorable roles in TOS.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 April 2013 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

How are the books? Still see tons of 'em, some by writers good in non-Trek contexts.

I love the relaunch novels so much - http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Relaunch_Novels_-_Timeline.

I skipped around at first (Destiny trilogy - amazing, and a couple about the Department of Temporal Investigations, which were fun) then started reading from the beginning (up to Hollow Men now) and I'm a huge fan.

carl agatha, Sunday, 7 April 2013 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

Gonna send u questions some day

I, rrational (mh), Sunday, 7 April 2013 05:23 (eleven years ago) link

Me? Okay! I will answer them.

carl agatha, Sunday, 7 April 2013 10:39 (eleven years ago) link

I remember reading in '77-78 that there was going to be a revived ST series, but had no idea things got so far along.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 April 2013 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

I think only two of these New Voyages scripts came from the original Phase II project the rest are new. They had an old Norman Spinrad script they tried to film but permission was yanked.

Watched this one last night, "Enemy: Starfleet!" and it was pretty good, featuring Kirk's girlfriend from "Mirror, Mirror" in a big role.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-ncYhAlbAw

Just watched this one, "World Enough And Time" and it was awesome. All kinds of classic TOS tropes touched on and a great big part for George Takei as Sulu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TC5wl0IzE

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 April 2013 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

OK, just tried to watch the animated series as well with all of the original cast except Walter Koenig, whose character was replaced by some kind of alien, but I couldn't get past the cheesy visuals, plus the music was all wrong, cop-show baritone sax stuff.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 April 2013 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

The guy who plays Kirk in New Voyages/Phase II who bought the TOS costumes and blueprints, built the sets and made it all happen is also an Elvis impersonator. He is basically some kind of alien himself from the Vic Tayback planet of copycats.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 April 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

Which means he has done something else incredible- wait for it- he has met both D J and D C Fontana.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 April 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

Episode with Walter Koenig reprising Chekhov not as good.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2013 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Best of Both Worlds screening tonight!

:D
:D

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma1034FAnc1qij1b6o1_500.gif

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link

Carl and I are waiting for it to start!

Jeff, Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link

Now Jeff and I are waiting for them to fix the picture. :(((((((

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link

We got 12 minutes in and the video hiccuped then went to a Dish Network screen. Now there is a packed theater full of restless Star Trek nerds waiting to see what happens next.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link

Also there's a lot of people in this theater who are way too casual about the frequency with which they launder their clothes.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link

Not me. Since you wash my clothes.

Jeff, Friday, 26 April 2013 00:31 (ten years ago) link

yipes i hope that doesnt happen to us!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link

They cancelled it. :( So bummed you guys.

They tried to give us vouchers for another movie! Vouchers! That is not of equal value. (I waited in line for a refund instead.)

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link

That suuuuuucks!

brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Friday, 26 April 2013 02:30 (ten years ago) link

wouldn'tve happened with reel film.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 April 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link

No, that specific thing would not have happened with reel film, that is 100% true.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link

a crime to watch tng off celluloid really

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Friday, 26 April 2013 03:13 (ten years ago) link

We saw this. After drinks. I appreciated the interviews and bloopers.

mh, Friday, 26 April 2013 04:02 (ten years ago) link

Ours worked...sorry Carl & Jeff that blows!

We left before the bloopers...I didnt care about that as much as the show itself which looked RAD

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link

God help me I love the bloopers. It's embarrassing how hard they make me laugh. I blame early exposure to America's Funniest Home Videos.

This just means we'll need to pony up for the remastered season 3 DVDs ASAP. Then I can watch all the TNG whenever I want without having to smell somebody's dirty laundry. Hmph.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link

I'm glad this issue was limited to that stupid theater where we were, though!

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link

psst carl check yr email

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link

I did nothing is happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link

i sent it via yr ilx email

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link

It's like last night all over again.

Try carlagathaparty at gmail.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link

Netflix has made me into quite the budding TNG Trekkie - at the end of season three now. I see I am in good company.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

xpost okay NOW check your email

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link

I DID I GOT IT OMG

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link

ffm, imo, Best of Both Worlds kicks is where the series really gets its bearings. There are some... interesting choices in S1 and 2, 3 gets better, and 4 is where it turns into an amazing show.

Also when you finish TNG, do check out DS9. VG will back me up on that one.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

DS9 YESYESYES

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link

but yeah, season 3 TNG and after is much better than the first 3 seasons

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

We're rewatching DS9 now for kicks, actually. So good. Benjamin Sisko is so amazing. I love how Avery Brooks plays him as such a weirdo sometimes. He's just weird enough that make him really believable and relatable. And sometimes hilarious.

(One ep in particular that we just watched is the one where a remnant of the Cardassian security system on the station thinks there's been a worker revolt and Sisko's response when SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT he averts the warp core breach is just perfect.)

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

I love most of what I've seen so far but I am a campy, silly individual. Looking forward to S4!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

i've been re-watching DS9 too, but in a strange move for me I have begun to watch VOYAGER. and i like it! kind of a lot? I haven't gotten very far into it, but I am down.

TNG is my fave for all time i think.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

best is to watch Best Of Both Worlds and follow up with episode 1 of Deep Space Nine

Sisko pwning Picard is my single favorite moment ever. So badass. From that moment on, I was on the Sikso train.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

I don't know. That scene was like seeing my parents fight, if my parents were two badass starship captains. It definitely lets you know off the bat that DS9 is going to be different from other Star Treks since they were released from the constraints of being unable to talk bad about the Federation.

ffm, as a campy, silly individual, you will at least enjoy the S1 DSP episode "Move Along Home." That rivals TNG S1 for some smdh moments.

ian - I like Voyager, too!

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

"Move Along Home" nearly put me off ds9. much worse than i remembered.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

Allamaraine, count to four,
Allamaraine, then three more

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

next you guys are gonna be all into critically re-evaluating Enterprise...

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link

what's that supposed to mean

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

it means Voyager is terrible

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

Shut up.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 April 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link


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