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There's this real lame "we're just putting it out there, maaaaaaan" aspect to what they do, which I find tends to severely undercut even the stuff of theirs that has merit. Also, I never thought what travel shows and investigative journalism needed was a dose of the Xtreme or other Jackass!-ery.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

^ this. pretty much the only worthwhile part of the enterprise in 2013 are the travel vids. xp

Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

what travel shows need is exactly a dose of jackassery!

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

did u see the mormons fighting the drug cartels one?

Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

no that sounds good tho!

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

i mean maybe not exactly jackassery but at least like a little bit of real people seeing real things, usual travel shows are just like this boring narration and some smiling person being all look we took a plane to a waterfall, doesnt at all capture the vibe of traveling, vice may be a little douche (tho not always) but they def come closer to some sort of travel verisimilitude

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

the japanese suicide forest one was obv exploitative but really fascinating and touching too

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

ladies and gentlemen, the target audience

I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

lol forks media critic

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

lol u feeling the need to get defensive about the stuff you claim to like

I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

jeez forks i just think your media criticism is funny

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

if anyone doesn't want to check out the vice travel videos bc gr8080, lag00n and i give considered praise for them, i think that's legit. i certainly don't think my taste in media jibes w/ everyone

Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

japanese suicide forest sounds extremely interesting to me tho, and i will check it out now

Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

brb starting a media company w/ lagoon and mordy

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

forks standby for the press release

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

1080p HD is sweet too

Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

let's do it guys

Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

1st order of business hire forks as public editor

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

forks i'm gonna need 700 words on spring breakers by 4:30 pm get to it

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

i'm pretty excited for the HBO series actually.

Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

brb, cutting and pasting "horseshit" 700 times

I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

feel like youll prob want to work 'white western male privilege' in there somewhere

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

enjoy what you wanna enjoy, i genuinely think you guys ARE the target audience
me, not so much anymore. ahma go throw some ceramics

I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

goodnight sweet prince

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

u might like this video they did on anarchist pottery throwers

Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

Like, it's not enough that they go to Chernobyl. They have to do it drunk.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

you just cant deal w their bad boy take no prisoners attitude man

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

actually i guess theyre more dont give a shit than take no prisoners

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

if they added rocket-skates I would never watch anything else BUT their vids

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

the vice photo book is u+k

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

in the nyer piece theyre covering the flooding of venice and its connection to global warming and they goto a flooded bar and have a drink and are all NOW this is a real vice piece lol

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

Xtreme Bar

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

vice target audience: alcoholics

Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like vice are more ironic detachment than they are extreme, like theyre not making a big deal out of things generally, hipsters arent xtreme

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

in the nyer piece theyre covering the flooding of venice and its connection to global warming and they goto a flooded bar and have a drink and are all NOW this is a real vice piece lol

― lag∞n, Friday, April 5, 2013 2:44 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that scene cracked my ass up

Jopy's on a vacation far away (Jon Lewis), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

the article kinda made me suspect that the business wasnt as financially sound as they were making it out to be

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

At present, Vice’s profits—which a source estimates were forty million dollars last year—seem to be dependent on securing and maintaining partnerships with a few major corporate clients. If you spend enough time inside the Vice empire, much of its noise and energy—the Web site and the ad network, the international offices, even Smith’s talk of global domination—can start to feel like a ruse, in the vein of its “basketball diplomacy” stunt, a show to make those partnerships happen.

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that scene cracked my ass up

― Jopy's on a vacation far away (Jon Lewis), Friday, April 5, 2013 8:51 AM (3 minutes ago)

guy yelling "look its CNN" was a great KO

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

i like their video work too. i dunno. i think the vice yall are thinking of is really fucking different from what they do nowadays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYFEoWwDvxY

travel stuff like that is dope to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQC3jp1udUg

there's that kind of thing, too.

and HEY fuck it sometimes i just want to see a guy taking acid and going to a dog show. does that make me a bad person?

dylannn, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

westminster lsdiplomacy

johnny crunch, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

dylannn otm

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

someone was telling me that there was some major fallout from the exploitative libera piece they did.

CNN picked up and after it ran a few times it killed what little tourism economy librea previously had

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

a friend of mine who works in libera wrote a v angry blog post abt that piece

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

Seriously, did anyone really not know how to capture the elusive 18-24 male market? Hint:

and HEY fuck it sometimes i just want to see a guy taking acid and going to a dog show. does that make me a bad person?

Also porn and poop and shocking pictures of dead things.

Not that there's anything wrong with this formula, but it should not be lofted up as some sort of standard or goal. Like, is Fareed Zakaria all, "ha ha, these cutting edge kids today and their porn and poop and guns and taking acid at dog shows!" Does he really believe this is some new vanguard, or is it strictly a salacious titillation/exploitation equals moolah calculation? (I mean, I know the answer, because the hack already works for CNN.)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

If anything the piece reminded me of the infamous New Yorker essay on the band Radish, with young Ben Kweller kicking it with Dr. Dre, Jimmy Iovine, Tom Petty and Joe Strummer, with the whole lot all "wow, this kid's got the goods!"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

it reminded me of ben kweller also.

dylannn, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, so pretty safe to skip this entire April 15 issue, right? Read the meh Burton/Le Carre and that's it for me, I think.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

dog if a susan faludi profile of shulamith firestone is "safe to skip" you need to get yr priorities in order

max, Thursday, 11 April 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

Same issue?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link


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